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That DTP shirt is amazing.
Quote from: Nick on December 08, 2017, 08:56:44 AMThat DTP shirt is amazing. I'd wear that in a heartbeat. After writing him off for years, Devin Townsend is SCREAMING up my list of favorite artists like a moon shot. That's my sense of humor right there (and, incidentally the way I took Derek's comment on "history"; not serious but self-deprecating as he noodled in the studio).
From a Mega Man Legends island jamming power metal to a Walrus listening to black metal, I like your story arc.
Quote from: Sycsa on December 08, 2017, 09:33:50 AMQuote from: RodrigoAltaf on December 08, 2017, 09:20:52 AMQuote from: Sycsa on December 08, 2017, 09:13:32 AMQuote from: devieira73 on December 08, 2017, 04:08:04 AMQuote from: RodrigoAltaf on December 07, 2017, 08:42:36 PMQuote from: Schurftkut on December 07, 2017, 08:39:06 PMit's no review, it's just naming some bandnames and mentioning the bandmembers saying they're doing their thing. no insight into the music or anything like it. remove the hypewords and there's nothing left..But if it was negative, all of a sudden it would turn into a valid review for the eyes and ears of those who don't like the band. And all of a sudden, Metal Hammer would be a great source of information for metal news.120% this, RodrigoAltaf.240% delusion.There's evidence of that in this very thread...If you think that some people here are unreasonable towards SoA, that’s a point of view you could probably defend, but definitely not by being equally or even more unreasonable than them. But ok, I’ll bite, let’s see your evidence: where is that rudimentary negative review that is considered valid and a great source of information, just because it’s negative? Or anything even remotely similar to that?I won't skim through 82 pages just to prove my point, but there are a bunch of negative reviews that came out before the album was released that got a lot of attention and highlight here - relevant or not, well written or not, detailed enough or not. Some people are choosing to hate whatever comes from SOA and are making a point of posting here in a topic that's supposed to be for fans who want to follow that band and be informed about it. The level of hate this is getting is not experienced towards ANY band here in DTF.
Quote from: RodrigoAltaf on December 08, 2017, 09:20:52 AMQuote from: Sycsa on December 08, 2017, 09:13:32 AMQuote from: devieira73 on December 08, 2017, 04:08:04 AMQuote from: RodrigoAltaf on December 07, 2017, 08:42:36 PMQuote from: Schurftkut on December 07, 2017, 08:39:06 PMit's no review, it's just naming some bandnames and mentioning the bandmembers saying they're doing their thing. no insight into the music or anything like it. remove the hypewords and there's nothing left..But if it was negative, all of a sudden it would turn into a valid review for the eyes and ears of those who don't like the band. And all of a sudden, Metal Hammer would be a great source of information for metal news.120% this, RodrigoAltaf.240% delusion.There's evidence of that in this very thread...If you think that some people here are unreasonable towards SoA, that’s a point of view you could probably defend, but definitely not by being equally or even more unreasonable than them. But ok, I’ll bite, let’s see your evidence: where is that rudimentary negative review that is considered valid and a great source of information, just because it’s negative? Or anything even remotely similar to that?
Quote from: Sycsa on December 08, 2017, 09:13:32 AMQuote from: devieira73 on December 08, 2017, 04:08:04 AMQuote from: RodrigoAltaf on December 07, 2017, 08:42:36 PMQuote from: Schurftkut on December 07, 2017, 08:39:06 PMit's no review, it's just naming some bandnames and mentioning the bandmembers saying they're doing their thing. no insight into the music or anything like it. remove the hypewords and there's nothing left..But if it was negative, all of a sudden it would turn into a valid review for the eyes and ears of those who don't like the band. And all of a sudden, Metal Hammer would be a great source of information for metal news.120% this, RodrigoAltaf.240% delusion.There's evidence of that in this very thread...
Quote from: devieira73 on December 08, 2017, 04:08:04 AMQuote from: RodrigoAltaf on December 07, 2017, 08:42:36 PMQuote from: Schurftkut on December 07, 2017, 08:39:06 PMit's no review, it's just naming some bandnames and mentioning the bandmembers saying they're doing their thing. no insight into the music or anything like it. remove the hypewords and there's nothing left..But if it was negative, all of a sudden it would turn into a valid review for the eyes and ears of those who don't like the band. And all of a sudden, Metal Hammer would be a great source of information for metal news.120% this, RodrigoAltaf.240% delusion.
Quote from: RodrigoAltaf on December 07, 2017, 08:42:36 PMQuote from: Schurftkut on December 07, 2017, 08:39:06 PMit's no review, it's just naming some bandnames and mentioning the bandmembers saying they're doing their thing. no insight into the music or anything like it. remove the hypewords and there's nothing left..But if it was negative, all of a sudden it would turn into a valid review for the eyes and ears of those who don't like the band. And all of a sudden, Metal Hammer would be a great source of information for metal news.120% this, RodrigoAltaf.
Quote from: Schurftkut on December 07, 2017, 08:39:06 PMit's no review, it's just naming some bandnames and mentioning the bandmembers saying they're doing their thing. no insight into the music or anything like it. remove the hypewords and there's nothing left..But if it was negative, all of a sudden it would turn into a valid review for the eyes and ears of those who don't like the band. And all of a sudden, Metal Hammer would be a great source of information for metal news.
it's no review, it's just naming some bandnames and mentioning the bandmembers saying they're doing their thing. no insight into the music or anything like it. remove the hypewords and there's nothing left..
Quote from: Stadler on December 08, 2017, 12:37:52 PMQuote from: Nick on December 08, 2017, 08:56:44 AMThat DTP shirt is amazing. I'd wear that in a heartbeat. After writing him off for years, Devin Townsend is SCREAMING up my list of favorite artists like a moon shot. That's my sense of humor right there (and, incidentally the way I took Derek's comment on "history"; not serious but self-deprecating as he noodled in the studio).This is only slightly off-topic but did you ever see the video of him singing Burning My Soul with PSMS at ProgNation At Sea 2014? Not work safe cause of language, but man. Funny as hell.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SxKKI233rHE
Yea, MP doesn't seem to show a lot of self-deprecating humor, but that's what Devin does better than other musicians.
Quote from: Kattoelox on December 08, 2017, 12:46:21 PMThis is only slightly off-topic but did you ever see the video of him singing Burning My Soul with PSMS at ProgNation At Sea 2014? Not work safe cause of language, but man. Funny as hell.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SxKKI233rHE"C'mon you prog fuckin' geeks!" and later, "As a group of men, I say unto thee..." At least he knows his audience. What did the band say about that? That seems to be in line with the Devin that I have (albeit in limited fashion) been exposed to, and in keeping with his sense of humor. But I can see the band saying "Not funny, dude."
This is only slightly off-topic but did you ever see the video of him singing Burning My Soul with PSMS at ProgNation At Sea 2014? Not work safe cause of language, but man. Funny as hell.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SxKKI233rHE
Quote from: RodrigoAltaf on December 08, 2017, 10:18:50 AMQuote from: Sycsa on December 08, 2017, 09:33:50 AMQuote from: RodrigoAltaf on December 08, 2017, 09:20:52 AMQuote from: Sycsa on December 08, 2017, 09:13:32 AMQuote from: devieira73 on December 08, 2017, 04:08:04 AMQuote from: RodrigoAltaf on December 07, 2017, 08:42:36 PMQuote from: Schurftkut on December 07, 2017, 08:39:06 PMit's no review, it's just naming some bandnames and mentioning the bandmembers saying they're doing their thing. no insight into the music or anything like it. remove the hypewords and there's nothing left..But if it was negative, all of a sudden it would turn into a valid review for the eyes and ears of those who don't like the band. And all of a sudden, Metal Hammer would be a great source of information for metal news.120% this, RodrigoAltaf.240% delusion.There's evidence of that in this very thread...If you think that some people here are unreasonable towards SoA, that’s a point of view you could probably defend, but definitely not by being equally or even more unreasonable than them. But ok, I’ll bite, let’s see your evidence: where is that rudimentary negative review that is considered valid and a great source of information, just because it’s negative? Or anything even remotely similar to that?I won't skim through 82 pages just to prove my point, but there are a bunch of negative reviews that came out before the album was released that got a lot of attention and highlight here - relevant or not, well written or not, detailed enough or not. Some people are choosing to hate whatever comes from SOA and are making a point of posting here in a topic that's supposed to be for fans who want to follow that band and be informed about it. The level of hate this is getting is not experienced towards ANY band here in DTF.I think you are mistaken, I don't recall seeing a very bad review of them. Some are over the top good at most is the one someone wrote here and even that it was a 7. Which Derek dismissed him as being a fan boy or something like that.
Quote from: Stadler on December 08, 2017, 12:58:12 PMQuote from: Kattoelox on December 08, 2017, 12:46:21 PMThis is only slightly off-topic but did you ever see the video of him singing Burning My Soul with PSMS at ProgNation At Sea 2014? Not work safe cause of language, but man. Funny as hell.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SxKKI233rHE"C'mon you prog fuckin' geeks!" and later, "As a group of men, I say unto thee..." At least he knows his audience. What did the band say about that? That seems to be in line with the Devin that I have (albeit in limited fashion) been exposed to, and in keeping with his sense of humor. But I can see the band saying "Not funny, dude." I don't know about any comments from the band but it looks like Mike was having a hell of a time during that. Some YouTube comments tell me that some people in the audience were NOT having fun. Unless you were talking about Dream Theater... then I have no idea if they've even seen that.
Quote from: bill1971 on December 08, 2017, 12:56:59 PMQuote from: RodrigoAltaf on December 08, 2017, 10:18:50 AMQuote from: Sycsa on December 08, 2017, 09:33:50 AMQuote from: RodrigoAltaf on December 08, 2017, 09:20:52 AMQuote from: Sycsa on December 08, 2017, 09:13:32 AMQuote from: devieira73 on December 08, 2017, 04:08:04 AMQuote from: RodrigoAltaf on December 07, 2017, 08:42:36 PMQuote from: Schurftkut on December 07, 2017, 08:39:06 PMit's no review, it's just naming some bandnames and mentioning the bandmembers saying they're doing their thing. no insight into the music or anything like it. remove the hypewords and there's nothing left..But if it was negative, all of a sudden it would turn into a valid review for the eyes and ears of those who don't like the band. And all of a sudden, Metal Hammer would be a great source of information for metal news.120% this, RodrigoAltaf.240% delusion.There's evidence of that in this very thread...If you think that some people here are unreasonable towards SoA, that’s a point of view you could probably defend, but definitely not by being equally or even more unreasonable than them. But ok, I’ll bite, let’s see your evidence: where is that rudimentary negative review that is considered valid and a great source of information, just because it’s negative? Or anything even remotely similar to that?I won't skim through 82 pages just to prove my point, but there are a bunch of negative reviews that came out before the album was released that got a lot of attention and highlight here - relevant or not, well written or not, detailed enough or not. Some people are choosing to hate whatever comes from SOA and are making a point of posting here in a topic that's supposed to be for fans who want to follow that band and be informed about it. The level of hate this is getting is not experienced towards ANY band here in DTF.I think you are mistaken, I don't recall seeing a very bad review of them. Some are over the top good at most is the one someone wrote here and even that it was a 7. Which Derek dismissed him as being a fan boy or something like that.So the consensus here now is that, outside this forum, the overall reviews of the album are good to very good? I’m truly confused, because I understood that the point here was to prove the other way round, at least for the so called well written reviews.
Quote from: Kattoelox on December 08, 2017, 01:03:53 PMQuote from: Stadler on December 08, 2017, 12:58:12 PMQuote from: Kattoelox on December 08, 2017, 12:46:21 PMThis is only slightly off-topic but did you ever see the video of him singing Burning My Soul with PSMS at ProgNation At Sea 2014? Not work safe cause of language, but man. Funny as hell.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SxKKI233rHE"C'mon you prog fuckin' geeks!" and later, "As a group of men, I say unto thee..." At least he knows his audience. What did the band say about that? That seems to be in line with the Devin that I have (albeit in limited fashion) been exposed to, and in keeping with his sense of humor. But I can see the band saying "Not funny, dude." I don't know about any comments from the band but it looks like Mike was having a hell of a time during that. Some YouTube comments tell me that some people in the audience were NOT having fun. Unless you were talking about Dream Theater... then I have no idea if they've even seen that.Well, that explains Devin pointing at people and saying "You hate me! I can tell!" Haha. I like artists that challenge like that.
Quote from: Adami on December 08, 2017, 12:59:41 PMYea, MP doesn't seem to show a lot of self-deprecating humor, but that's what Devin does better than other musicians.I'm not professing to be a Devin Townsend expert now, but from what I gather, from his book and some of the writings on his website, he's FAR more about the process than the output. It's the emotion that went into the creation, where his head was at, and what he was trying to explore by letting that music out. Mike strikes me as far more into the output. This is my song, this is my statement, recognize it. Those two outlooks could NOT be more polar opposites.
I love that performance. Devin's hilarious in his rambles on the verses, but man, he really tears it up on the chorus. So energy! Power!
would have thought the same thing but seeing the OP was TAC i immediately thought Maiden or DT related
Winger Theater Forums........or WTF.
TAC got a higher score than me in the electronic round? Honestly, can I just drop out now?
I respectfully do not agree with that. That's the musical equivalent of "did you see what she was wearing?" or "I know you are but what am I?", that game that school kids play. Regardless of anything Derek did, we have a personal responsibility to control our own behavior. It's one thing to say, in response to Derek's comments, "I don't agree with that", or even "I don't feel comfortable supporting that project." It's entirely another thing to call Derek names, ascribe motivations (that we have no way of knowing) and by proxy ascribing this all to Mike as well (because apparently, being the final arbiter of decisions in the band seems to make you responsible for pre-approving any social media release even on other people's personal twitter account). Either way, though, own the response, don't blame the band.
Ariich is a freak, or somehow has more hours in the day than everyone else.
I be am boner inducing.
Quote from: Stadler on December 08, 2017, 07:39:01 AMI respectfully do not agree with that. That's the musical equivalent of "did you see what she was wearing?" or "I know you are but what am I?", that game that school kids play. Regardless of anything Derek did, we have a personal responsibility to control our own behavior. It's one thing to say, in response to Derek's comments, "I don't agree with that", or even "I don't feel comfortable supporting that project." It's entirely another thing to call Derek names, ascribe motivations (that we have no way of knowing) and by proxy ascribing this all to Mike as well (because apparently, being the final arbiter of decisions in the band seems to make you responsible for pre-approving any social media release even on other people's personal twitter account). Either way, though, own the response, don't blame the band. This is exactly the issue I have with this thread. Double standards.
I think Mike's comment about this place being full of trolls is starting to hold some weight, no?
Some people are choosing to hate whatever comes from SOA and are making a point of posting here in a topic that's supposed to be for fans who want to follow that band and be informed about it. The level of hate this is getting is not experienced towards ANY band here in DTF.
Quote from: PROGdrummer on December 07, 2017, 02:25:08 PMI think Mike's comment about this place being full of trolls is starting to hold some weight, no?No.Quote from: RodrigoAltaf on December 08, 2017, 10:18:50 AMSome people are choosing to hate whatever comes from SOA and are making a point of posting here in a topic that's supposed to be for fans who want to follow that band and be informed about it. The level of hate this is getting is not experienced towards ANY band here in DTF.Well, I have been following the thread for all 82 pages, and I can say without hesitation that what you just said is not even remotely accurate. If that is what you think, you are not being even slightly objective in your reading of this thread.
Quote from: bosk1 on December 11, 2017, 09:09:05 AMQuote from: PROGdrummer on December 07, 2017, 02:25:08 PMI think Mike's comment about this place being full of trolls is starting to hold some weight, no?No.Quote from: RodrigoAltaf on December 08, 2017, 10:18:50 AMSome people are choosing to hate whatever comes from SOA and are making a point of posting here in a topic that's supposed to be for fans who want to follow that band and be informed about it. The level of hate this is getting is not experienced towards ANY band here in DTF.Well, I have been following the thread for all 82 pages, and I can say without hesitation that what you just said is not even remotely accurate. If that is what you think, you are not being even slightly objective in your reading of this thread.Or you're not reading the posts the way I am.
Sycsa is perhaps the most brilliant and insightful man I have ever encountered.
Quote from: RodrigoAltaf on December 11, 2017, 02:54:57 PMQuote from: bosk1 on December 11, 2017, 09:09:05 AMQuote from: PROGdrummer on December 07, 2017, 02:25:08 PMI think Mike's comment about this place being full of trolls is starting to hold some weight, no?No.Quote from: RodrigoAltaf on December 08, 2017, 10:18:50 AMSome people are choosing to hate whatever comes from SOA and are making a point of posting here in a topic that's supposed to be for fans who want to follow that band and be informed about it. The level of hate this is getting is not experienced towards ANY band here in DTF.Well, I have been following the thread for all 82 pages, and I can say without hesitation that what you just said is not even remotely accurate. If that is what you think, you are not being even slightly objective in your reading of this thread.Or you're not reading the posts the way I am. Methinks you could use a little self-examination. I called you out on your obvious BS on the previous page, and your reply was "I won't skim through 82 pages just to prove my point." Nice. It's really hard to take your "points" and your biased, baseless generalizations seriously.
I knew it would be you.
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