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Re: Awake is still better than every other Dream Theater record
« Reply #455 on: September 20, 2013, 06:51:55 AM »
I just listened to the album and the thread title is still correct.

BUt c'mon, Ain't Caught In A Web  like the worst song ever!?
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Re: Awake is still better than every other Dream Theater record
« Reply #456 on: September 20, 2013, 07:24:42 AM »
I just listened to the album and the thread title is still correct.

BUt c'mon, Ain't Caught In A Web  like the worst song ever!?

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Re: Awake is still better than every other Dream Theater record
« Reply #457 on: September 20, 2013, 07:26:01 AM »
I just listened to the album and the thread title is still correct.
BUt c'mon, Ain't Caught In A Web  like the worst song ever!?
Nope! CIAW rocks and was one of the songs that got me into DT in the first place.

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Re: Awake is still better than every other Dream Theater record
« Reply #458 on: September 20, 2013, 08:38:13 AM »
Caught in a Web is my favorite song on Awake.   :lol
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Re: Awake is still better than every other Dream Theater record
« Reply #459 on: September 20, 2013, 08:57:15 AM »
I just listened to the album and the thread title is still correct.

BUt c'mon, Ain't Caught In A Web  like the worst song ever!?
Hell no.
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Re: Awake is still better than every other Dream Theater record
« Reply #460 on: September 20, 2013, 08:59:59 AM »
CIAW is a great song. I've never gotten the relative dislike for CIAW or IF. I mean, if even I like them, nobody else has an excuse. :lol
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Re: Awake is still better than every other Dream Theater record
« Reply #461 on: September 20, 2013, 09:36:29 AM »
CIAW is a great song. I've never gotten the relative dislike for CIAW or IF. I mean, if even I like them, nobody else has an excuse. :lol
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Re: Awake is still better than every other Dream Theater record
« Reply #462 on: September 20, 2013, 09:52:40 AM »
Lol Wut, Even that horrible keyboard in the intro/ first verse???
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Re: Awake is still better than every other Dream Theater record
« Reply #463 on: September 20, 2013, 09:55:56 AM »
Lol Wut, Even that horrible keyboard in the intro/ first verse???
Horrible? That's a great part!

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Re: Awake is still better than every other Dream Theater record
« Reply #464 on: September 20, 2013, 09:57:55 AM »
Lol Wut, Even that horrible keyboard in the intro/ first verse???
Horrible? That's a great part!

I don't know :E IMO it sounds almost torturous xD
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Re: Awake is still better than every other Dream Theater record
« Reply #465 on: September 20, 2013, 10:36:59 AM »
Lol Wut, Even that horrible keyboard in the intro/ first verse???
Horrible? That's a great part!

I don't know :E IMO it sounds almost torturous xD

Some people like torture. :zydar:

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Re: Awake is still better than every other Dream Theater record
« Reply #466 on: September 20, 2013, 10:54:18 AM »
Lol Wut, Even that horrible keyboard in the intro/ first verse???
Horrible? That's a great part!
I don't know :E IMO it sounds almost torturous xD
It sounds heavenly compared to the horns section in Beyond This Life and the Bebot solo in A Rite of Passage.

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Re: Awake is still better than every other Dream Theater record
« Reply #467 on: September 20, 2013, 10:55:35 AM »
Lol Wut, Even that horrible keyboard in the intro/ first verse???
Horrible? That's a great part!
I don't know :E IMO it sounds almost torturous xD
It sounds heavenly compared to the horns section in Beyond This Life and the Bebot solo in A Rite of Passage.

I don't mind the horns in BTL  but AROP solo is the worst solo ever played by anyone
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Re: Awake is still better than every other Dream Theater record
« Reply #468 on: September 20, 2013, 11:03:18 AM »
Caught in a Web is awesome, unique and extremely catchy besides.

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Re: Awake is still better than every other Dream Theater record
« Reply #469 on: September 20, 2013, 04:20:53 PM »
Songs on Awake I still find very forgettable/I still don't get:

Lie
The Mirror
Scarred

Meh songs:

6:00
Caught in a Web
Erotomania
The Silent Man
Innocence Faded

Amazing songs off Awake:

Voices
Lifting Shadows off a Dream
Space-Dye Vest


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Re: Awake is still better than every other Dream Theater record
« Reply #470 on: September 20, 2013, 04:39:28 PM »
Elaborate your not getting Scarred, please. I'm always thrilled and genuinely interested to hear why people don't consider it a timeless Dream Theater masterpiece like many others (myself included) do.
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Re: Awake is still better than every other Dream Theater record
« Reply #471 on: September 20, 2013, 05:20:06 PM »
Awake is great. It has so many redeeming qualities. The first 3 tracks with the catchy choruses and great riffs, the Mind Beside Itself suite,
The Mirror/Lie + the great follow up with Lifting Shadows, and SCARRED! :metal Not to mention Space-Dye Vest, a unique and great album closer :D

Probably not my favorite album, but it's one of those albums where I find all of it to be consistently good. Wouldn't skip a track. Much like SDIOT or I&W for me. I realize many others do not share the same opinion though.
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Re: Awake is still better than every other Dream Theater record
« Reply #472 on: September 20, 2013, 05:26:45 PM »
Okay. I will do so in the same way I went through my Top 30: By listening to the song while writing about it.

Scarred

Cymbal work. Really cool bass work and piano work. Guitar volume swells, clearer than I generally get from DT, then it turns more into a guitar solo. Lyrics. Interesting, the vocals are really soft in the beginning. Some great melodies. (2 minutes in) 2:10. That's the one part I remember. I enjoy it. I do not know the lyrics that well, I just remember that rape was part of the subject (clarify this for me.), and they're really hard to understand. 3:34, okay, we're back here, then more aggressive lyrics from James. VERY aggressive. 4:36. Nice background vocals, more good melodies. More really soft vocals, and back to a lighter phrase, building up. at 6:00. Building up, building up. 6:27, back to the chorus, okay. 7:04 cool guitar work, then suddenly scaly guitar solo. Keyboard solo. Guitar solo. 8:54, back to the chorus. 9:30, that was a cool breakdown. Keyboards playing string melody. 10:28, this is a REALLY cool part. Oh, what, this is what it fades out of?  :huh:

Eh. It's a good song, but it's not very memorable for me. Some of my favorite Dream Theater songs are under 8 minutes, with all the catchy stuff (These Walls is my all time favorite, after all.).

I don't know what I really don't like about Scarred. It's not that I don't like it, but it just feels so... It just really hasn't clicked yet, but I don't even feel like listening to it again right now.
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Re: Awake is still better than every other Dream Theater record
« Reply #473 on: September 20, 2013, 05:28:27 PM »
Scarred is a song that I enjoy while I'm listening to it, but I never have much of an urge to listen to it again.

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Re: Awake is still better than every other Dream Theater record
« Reply #474 on: September 20, 2013, 05:43:14 PM »
Elaborate your not getting Scarred, please. I'm always thrilled and genuinely interested to hear why people don't consider it a timeless Dream Theater masterpiece like many others (myself included) do.


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Re: Awake is still better than every other Dream Theater record
« Reply #475 on: September 20, 2013, 05:47:54 PM »
From beginning to end, Awake is the most "listenable" album in its entirety.  Just works perfectly as a whole.

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« Reply #476 on: September 20, 2013, 08:12:50 PM »
I think Awake as an album is better than the sum of its parts.  As an album it's consistent and has a very good flow to it.  It's got a good mix of emotions and song types and it sounds like a band that is confident in their songwriting ability.  Taken individually, I wouldn't consider any one song off of Awake to be a top 10 DT track.  Most of the song lists that I've seen people post don't normally contain many Awake songs if any at all.  It's also possible Awake didn't hit me as hard because I got into DT much later.

Personally, I don't listen to Awake often.  If I'm in the mood for a short form DT song I may pop on 6:00 or CIAW.  Voices is great when I'm in the mood, and erotomania is a fun instrumental (although I feel the LSFNY version is the definitive version).  I began listening to DT in 2000, so Awake's production sounds a bit dated to me as well (it's the snare reverb).  I also do not like Scarred and I never have.  It's got some great individual parts like the guitar solo, the soft bridge, outro...but the vocal and instrumental melodies and progressions in the verses and choruses are tough to listen to for me.  I can totally understand why people would like it but I can also get why it might not be everyone's cup of tea.

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Re: Awake is still better than every other Dream Theater record
« Reply #477 on: September 20, 2013, 08:32:55 PM »
Lol Wut, Even that horrible keyboard in the intro/ first verse???
Horrible? That's a great part!
I don't know :E IMO it sounds almost torturous xD
It sounds heavenly compared to the horns section in Beyond This Life and the Bebot solo in A Rite of Passage.

The horns in BTL are awesome. Haters gonna hate.
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Re: Awake is still better than every other Dream Theater record
« Reply #478 on: September 20, 2013, 08:54:28 PM »
Horns in BTL? Timestamp?
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Re: Awake is still better than every other Dream Theater record
« Reply #479 on: September 20, 2013, 09:00:45 PM »
I just listened to the album and the thread title is still correct.

BUt c'mon, Ain't Caught In A Web  like the worst song ever!?
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Re: Awake is still better than every other Dream Theater record
« Reply #480 on: September 21, 2013, 12:47:14 AM »
Horns in BTL? Timestamp?
8:26. It's just a keyboard patch, but it sounds awful IMO. :puke:

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Re: Awake is still better than every other Dream Theater record
« Reply #481 on: September 21, 2013, 01:04:14 AM »
I'm with Blob on this. Ordinarily I'd hate that patch, but for me it just works with the rest of the song.
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Re: Awake is still better than every other Dream Theater record
« Reply #482 on: September 21, 2013, 01:06:17 AM »
I don't have a problem with it either. It's far enough removed from an actual horn sound that I just think of it as a synth, and not as an emulation of horns. As such, that synth works for that part of the song.

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Re: Awake is still better than every other Dream Theater record
« Reply #483 on: September 21, 2013, 04:20:00 AM »
I've never understood the hate for that section either.
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