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ADTOE: a good DT introduction album?
« on: June 07, 2012, 08:05:34 PM »
I just had the thought that ADTOE would be good for someone new to DT to listen to. It is modern sounding, but obviously shares many similarities with older DT direction and is more typical of the DT sound than SC or TOT. This may have been discussed before, and I know lots of new albums become the new introduction album.

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Re: ADTOE: a good DT introduction album?
« Reply #1 on: June 07, 2012, 08:13:11 PM »
definitely YES. Everyone I've turned on to Dream Theater with it says it's great, pretty much no matter what kind of music they're into.

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Re: ADTOE: a good DT introduction album?
« Reply #2 on: June 07, 2012, 08:13:36 PM »
Definitely a good introductory album.
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Re: ADTOE: a good DT introduction album?
« Reply #3 on: June 07, 2012, 08:15:23 PM »
Definitely a good introductory album.


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« Reply #4 on: June 07, 2012, 08:20:47 PM »
Definitely a good introductory album.

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« Reply #5 on: June 07, 2012, 08:35:45 PM »
Definitely a good intro album since it has a good amount of songs and although some songs may be long, they're not BC&SL long. My intro album was Octavarium and that was fantastic.

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Re: ADTOE: a good DT introduction album?
« Reply #6 on: June 07, 2012, 08:42:08 PM »
I'm not sure it's a good intro to DT in general, but it's a great intro to the current DT line up.

I admit, this was the first CD I heard with the new line up and it kept me interested.
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Re: ADTOE: a good DT introduction album?
« Reply #7 on: June 07, 2012, 08:58:41 PM »
I admit, this was the first CD I heard with the new line up and it kept me interested.
I think the second CD with the newest lineup is the best
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Re: ADTOE: a good DT introduction album?
« Reply #8 on: June 07, 2012, 10:13:12 PM »
It's an excellent introductory album. You'll be exposed to the signature sound that the band pioneered.

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Re: ADTOE: a good DT introduction album?
« Reply #9 on: June 07, 2012, 10:33:29 PM »
Definitely a good introductory album.

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Re: ADTOE: a good DT introduction album?
« Reply #10 on: June 07, 2012, 11:05:08 PM »
I'd say Octavarium or Six Degrees would be the best introductory albums, UNLESS I specifically knew that the person I'm introducing it to likes Metal. And if they did, I'd use Systematic Chaos or Train of Thought.
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Re: ADTOE: a good DT introduction album?
« Reply #11 on: June 08, 2012, 12:30:57 AM »
Definitely a good introductory album.

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Re: ADTOE: a good DT introduction album?
« Reply #12 on: June 08, 2012, 12:50:23 AM »
Affirmatively a fine collection of songs with which to introduce the uninitiated to this rather pleasant-sounding musical beat combo.

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Re: ADTOE: a good DT introduction album?
« Reply #13 on: June 08, 2012, 01:10:54 AM »
Definitely a good introductory album.

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Re: ADTOE: a good DT introduction album?
« Reply #14 on: June 08, 2012, 01:39:30 AM »
I consider it one of their weaker albums, so based on that I would say no. I just don't think it would grab people like their other albums, especially as a lot of people I know don't really like the album.

I'd hand them SFAM instead.
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Re: ADTOE: a good DT introduction album?
« Reply #15 on: June 08, 2012, 01:45:25 AM »
I consider it one of their weaker albums, so based on that I would say no. I just don't think it would grab people like their other albums, especially as a lot of people I know don't really like the album.

I'd hand them SFAM instead.

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« Reply #16 on: June 08, 2012, 02:50:25 AM »
I consider it one of their weaker albums, so based on that I would say no. I just don't think it would grab people like their other albums, especially as a lot of people I know don't really like the album.

I'd hand them SFAM instead.

Couldn't disagree more.  The whole concept album thingy, the hynotherapist narration - the person listening might think I'm trying to spring a surprise intervention on them.

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Re: ADTOE: a good DT introduction album?
« Reply #17 on: June 08, 2012, 02:57:30 AM »
I consider it one of their weaker albums, so based on that I would say no. I just don't think it would grab people like their other albums, especially as a lot of people I know don't really like the album.

I'd hand them SFAM instead.

Couldn't disagree more.  The whole concept album thingy, the hynotherapist narration - the person listening might think I'm trying to spring a surprise intervention on them.


Aside from maybe Regression, I don't think the concept gets in the way of a new listener enjoying it at all, at least it didn't for me at all. Aside from the start and finish of the album, there's not a whole lot of narration inbetween.
And the album is a good balance of heavier stuff, ballads, and the crazier stuff, with the individual songs being fairly short overall.

Every other album feels like it's leaning in one direction or another, but SFAM is like the third bowl of porridge. It's just right. If not that, then maybe SDOIT, but while that was my first DT album, and got me into DT, it's perhaps also not the most digestible for a newcomer because of the longer songs and album length.
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Re: ADTOE: a good DT introduction album?
« Reply #18 on: June 08, 2012, 09:02:22 AM »
I admit, this was the first CD I heard with the new line up and it kept me interested.
I think the second CD with the newest lineup is the best
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« Reply #19 on: June 08, 2012, 09:05:54 AM »
I'd hand them SFAM instead.
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Re: ADTOE: a good DT introduction album?
« Reply #20 on: June 08, 2012, 09:19:05 AM »
I suppose so.  It's got all the elements that DT are known for.
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Re: ADTOE: a good DT introduction album?
« Reply #21 on: June 08, 2012, 09:25:24 AM »
I suppose so.  It's got all the elements that DT are known for.

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Re: ADTOE: a good DT introduction album?
« Reply #22 on: June 08, 2012, 09:45:48 AM »
You could. I'd start them with either SFAM or I&W. More of the "iconic" prog sound from Dream Theater in those albums. If they can't handle either of them, we don't need 'em.

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Re: ADTOE: a good DT introduction album?
« Reply #23 on: June 08, 2012, 11:33:51 AM »
I would give someone ADTOE as an introductory album for sure.  Then I&W.

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Re: ADTOE: a good DT introduction album?
« Reply #24 on: June 08, 2012, 01:18:10 PM »
I'd probably pick ADTOE, now that I think of it. It's more stomacheable than SDOIT, with some shorter songs being present as well and I didn't like I&W for a long time, mainly because of the drums. SFAM would work too, or Awake if the someone who was to be introduced was a metal fan.
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Re: ADTOE: a good DT introduction album?
« Reply #25 on: June 08, 2012, 01:30:17 PM »
Guide for newbie DT listening:

1. Listen to ADTOE
2. Listen to I&W
3. "WTF, I just listened to the same album twice?!?!?!"




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Re: ADTOE: a good DT introduction album?
« Reply #26 on: June 08, 2012, 01:31:58 PM »
i would say yes


i think breaking all illusions is a good introductory song to show them what theyre all about

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Re: ADTOE: a good DT introduction album?
« Reply #27 on: June 08, 2012, 02:05:17 PM »
Yes because after SFAM, I&W and maybe awake is their Best album..

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Re: ADTOE: a good DT introduction album?
« Reply #28 on: June 08, 2012, 02:55:18 PM »
Guide for newbie DT listening:

1. Listen to ADTOE
2. Listen to I&W
3. "WTF, I just listened to the same album twice?!?!?!"




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Re: ADTOE: a good DT introduction album?
« Reply #29 on: June 08, 2012, 04:58:15 PM »
Guide for newbie DT listening:

1. Listen to ADTOE
2. Listen to I&W
3. "WTF, I just listened to the same album twice?!?!?!"




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You're herp derping.

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I would use ADToE as an intro CD. Or I'd use Awake or TOT as an intro for a metal fan.
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Re: ADTOE: a good DT introduction album?
« Reply #30 on: June 08, 2012, 05:35:31 PM »
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Re: ADTOE: a good DT introduction album?
« Reply #31 on: June 08, 2012, 07:34:38 PM »
I really like ADTOE, but I'd use SFAM as an introduction.  It was, IMO, their Yellow Brick Road.

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« Reply #32 on: June 08, 2012, 10:33:56 PM »
I hadn't really thought about it, but I'd say it is a perfect starter album. Along with I&W
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Re: ADTOE: a good DT introduction album?
« Reply #33 on: June 09, 2012, 12:49:48 AM »
It's a good starting point - ADTOE is modern-sounding yet the style of the album is very balanced and doesn't focus too much on one side of DT's music. Besides there aren't really references to other albums that you wouldn't get if you haven't heard those records first (unless someone wants to count the I&W theory :lol) like the 12-step suite songs on the previous 5 albums, the meta-album thing and Metropolis 1 & 2.

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Re: ADTOE: a good DT introduction album?
« Reply #34 on: June 09, 2012, 09:56:47 AM »
Definitely a good introductory album.