DREAM THEATER - Europe leg of the 40th Anniversary Tour 2024-2025

[EvantheMotel6Owmer]

Would AI really be any worse than the crap Syme was producing before?

Hugh Syme's recent artwork pretty much is AI 

[hunnus2000]

The clock face (PG posted a synopsis of each album's reference on Page 10 of this thread.  Post #324 if memory serves.)

Thanks, that was helpful!

[Buddyhunter1]

I assume the poster wasn't made by Hugh Syme - he's never done tour posters for them before, has he?

[TheHoveringSojourn808]

I think the tour poster was made by AI and the prompt was "Please make a Hugh Syme Dream Theater tour poster, thank you"

[TAC]

Hugh Syme's recent artwork pretty much is AI 

It's pretty much Colorforms.

[cramx3]

Given Jordan's propensity for promoting AI software, I wouldn't be surprised if they were OK with Syme (or anyone) using it to make their artwork.

-Marc.

I'm not sure I like it though.  Art is supposed to be original, but AI uses existing art to create images so they don't come out very original to me.  Also, they seem to come out quite poor for weird things.

I actually used copilot (microsoft AI) to make my new logo.  I think it came out fine, but if you were to look really close, you'd see things that don't make any sense and clearly shows it was AI made and not human made.  It was also a struggle to get it to spell "cramx3" correctly somehow 

I think for a band that is established and has to means to create original art, they should not use AI art.  But I think, generally, as long as it's not in the music, it's probably fine at the end of the day and more of a preference.

[Mosh]

I could see it being made with the help of AI, but also we go over this every time there's a new piece that uses Hugh Syme's work, so I would just assume status quo here.

[nobloodyname]

MP's reply to somebody on Facebook last night moaning that XXXX "is not how you write 40 in Latin" 😆:

First of all, these are "Roman" numerals...but secondly, I'm/We're well aware...but XXXX is waaaay cooler than XL (which 90% of the people would interpret as "Extra Large" rather than Roman numerals...) Just go with it! 😉😝😎

[obro]

 Tickets for Amsterdam secured, can't wait 

[Bentower]

One ticket for the Finnish date on Nov 6th is the bag and thankfully it's for the GA portion of the arena (judging by my one experience on the Octavarium tour, sitting down at a DT gig is not my thing)! I'm looking forward to it and have my fingers crossed that James can deliver. Not that his performance has ever tanked a show as far as I'm concerned, but you know, it'd sure be nice...

[TheHoveringSojourn808]

MP's reply to somebody on Facebook last night moaning that XXXX "is not how you write 40 in Latin":

never enough sequel lyrics for new album confirmed

[SwedishGoose]

Got tickets for Stockholm at row 2

[andrewt67]

Only 1 UK show ? London - how predictable !
......and at those prices - not a chance

[Azyiu]

**Rant Alert**

This is why I hate presale. So I couldn't find anything closer to the stage than Section B2's back on Wednesday, during the O2 show presale period. I ended up getting a pair of tickets in Section 111. They are not great seats but not too bad either. I knew I shouldn't have but I still went check out the general sale site at 10:30 this morning, or a full 30 minutes after general sale got started. Holy hell! I could still find GREAT seats in Section As. Actually, there were a pair of tickets located in Section A2  or directly in front of the stage dead center! WTF? 

**Rant Over**

[nobloodyname]

Yup. It's bad enough O2 customers got a presale. And then this shit gets layered in on top.

I had a look myself this morning and could have had two tickets in A1 but decided to keep my B3 tickets because we're second row in that block and if everyone stands up, it's only one row of tall people in front of me. Plus I don't have the issue of trying to resell horribly overpriced tickets.

[crystalstars17]

This is why I hate presale.

Not planning to go to any European shows, and I'm not sure it'll be done the same way in the US, but what does one even need to do in order to get presale? I saw this and thought "we'll have to manage this somehow when it's our turn" but IIRC they've never done this before.

[nobloodyname]

Yeah, presales are common. There were two presales for the O2 show. 1) People who are customers of O2 (a mobile phone service provider, think Verizon) get presales to all events held at the O2 arena (it's sponsored by them, as you'll have cunningly spotted!). That presale was on Tuesday. 2) A presale for anyone who clicked on the presale link on DT's own website. In exchange for your email address, they sent a link on Tuesday evening for use on Wednesday. This second presale was available, I think, for every date on the tour so far. I'd be surprised if it's not replicated in the US. Tickets are on sale to the general public today.

[MirrorMask]

never enough sequel lyrics for new album confirmed

Kicked my self out of the band,
Mended things with the guys,
Especially with James,
Waited to come back
And then you complain
How I spelled the anniversary number on the poster tour wrong

[Whitefish]

**Rant Alert**

This is why I hate presale. So I couldn't find anything closer to the stage than Section B2's back on Wednesday, during the O2 show presale period. I ended up getting a pair of tickets in Section 111. They are not great seats but not too bad either. I knew I shouldn't have but I still went check out the general sale site at 10:30 this morning, or a full 30 minutes after general sale got started. Holy hell! I could still find GREAT seats in Section As. Actually, there were a pair of tickets located in Section A2  or directly in front of the stage dead center! WTF? 

**Rant Over**

I noticed this too. I am fine with the seats I have, but what is the point of presale unless it gives you priority access to the best seats? I don't understand the logic of it at all. What am I missing?

[efx]

I noticed this too. I am fine with the seats I have, but what is the point of presale unless it gives you priority access to the best seats? I don't understand the logic of it at all. What am I missing?

I do with presale tickets would list the seats that are available and those that are not. For the Stockholm show it was a bit of guesswork.
The reasoning behind it not being all the tickets is to keep it a bit more fair. For my show as a Mastercard holder I got a presale but not everyone has that. What it got me was the convenience of still getting a great pair of seats without having to worry about absolutely everyone else wanting to get tickets at the same time.

[Lonk]

I noticed this too. I am fine with the seats I have, but what is the point of presale unless it gives you priority access to the best seats? I don't understand the logic of it at all. What am I missing?

Yeah, I feel like 15 years ago, pre-sale meant priority over better seats. Nowadays it's more of a "Buy from this group of tickets available early". Not all seats are released for pre-sale. Heck, sometimes not even for the general sale (certain seats might be reserved and only released closer to the date of the show). But it is feeling increasingly less of a priority to buy pre-sale. Do we even know how venues determine which seats will be available for pre-sale?

The one advantage to pre-sale is that the day it starts, there is less "competition" for seats than the day of general sales (I even hate to call it a competition, but that's how it feels at times).

EDIT: just saw DT posted on their youtube channel a short with MP and JM 
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/bTKrC0A8y5g

[crystalstars17]

Yeah, presales are common. There were two presales for the O2 show. 1) People who are customers of O2 (a mobile phone service provider, think Verizon) get presales to all events held at the O2 arena (it's sponsored by them, as you'll have cunningly spotted!). That presale was on Tuesday. 2) A presale for anyone who clicked on the presale link on DT's own website. In exchange for your email address, they sent a link on Tuesday evening for use on Wednesday. This second presale was available, I think, for every date on the tour so far. I'd be surprised if it's not replicated in the US. Tickets are on sale to the general public today.

Thanks, yeah I'm pretty sure we've gotten a presale once (for another band) just by having a Ticketmaster account. I was just curious as to whether there'd be different hoops to jump through this time (ie. a fanclub membership or similar) because the tickets for this tour would be so coveted.

[DAYAFTERDAY]

**Rant Alert**

This is why I hate presale. So I couldn't find anything closer to the stage than Section B2's back on Wednesday, during the O2 show presale period. I ended up getting a pair of tickets in Section 111. They are not great seats but not too bad either. I knew I shouldn't have but I still went check out the general sale site at 10:30 this morning, or a full 30 minutes after general sale got started. Holy hell! I could still find GREAT seats in Section As. Actually, there were a pair of tickets located in Section A2  or directly in front of the stage dead center! WTF? 

**Rant Over**

I have the exact same frustrations, I'm not complaining to much as I got A3 Row M in the presale but I was under the impression that I'd been really lucky. However this morning I just had a look out of curiosity at the general sale and there still available were seats in A2 row fucking A! I had them in my basket and was debating checking out but decided not to as I didn't know what the resale process would be like for my original tix as I'm not a very experienced ticket purchaser.

[Awaken]

Unfortunately I'm just not going to be able to justify the travel for this show but I went looking for tickets this morning anyway.  Looks like this has sold really well, stoked for the band!

[Trav]

Kicked my self out of the band,
Mended things with the guys,
Especially with James,
Waited to come back
And then you complain
How I spelled the anniversary number on the poster tour wrong

Spot on.

[hunnus2000]

Kicked my self out of the band,
Mended things with the guys,
Especially with James,
Waited to come back
And then you complain
How I spelled the anniversary number on the poster tour wrong

Well, I could type 40 or I could reference 10+10+10+10 and it would still equal 40 so it's still technically correct and let's face it, XL would be boring in my mind.

Also, they could name the tour R40 with the R standing for Reunion. Maybe?

[pg1067]

Not planning to go to any European shows, and I'm not sure it'll be done the same way in the US, but what does one even need to do in order to get presale? I saw this and thought "we'll have to manage this somehow when it's our turn" but IIRC they've never done this before.

Yeah, presales are common. There were two presales for the O2 show. 1) People who are customers of O2 (a mobile phone service provider, think Verizon) get presales to all events held at the O2 arena (it's sponsored by them, as you'll have cunningly spotted!). That presale was on Tuesday. 2) A presale for anyone who clicked on the presale link on DT's own website. In exchange for your email address, they sent a link on Tuesday evening for use on Wednesday. This second presale was available, I think, for every date on the tour so far. I'd be surprised if it's not replicated in the US. Tickets are on sale to the general public today.

Beyond that, I've seen shows in the U.S. with 3 or 4 different presales.  Depending on the venue, you can have the band's fan club presale, the LiveNation presale, the MasterCard or American Express presale, etc.  AFAIK, there's no official U.S. DT fan Club, but they may do the above for the U.S. dates as well.  If you go to dreamtheater.net, you can sign up for the mailing list (just scroll down on the home page).  Then you'll be notified about stuff.  Credit card presales usually require you to enter the first six digits of your card to unlock the presale.  LiveNation also has a mailing list you can sign up for.

EDIT: just saw DT posted on their youtube channel a short with MP and JM 
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/bTKrC0A8y5g

I think it must have been a condition of Mike returning that JM actually talk on stuff.  Between the RS interview and this, that must be more than JM said during the entire MM era!   

[DreamerTV]

Got a ticket for London.
Went to an NBA EU game back in 2017, i should be in the same area of the venue.
I could barely see a thing back then, but who cares, it's a reunited DT @ the O2 Arena!!!

[MoraWintersoul]

I've reached a point of zen where I'm fine with everything I complained about they could have very well started with the NA tour first and I could have waited until 2025 to see them. Sucks I don't get to stand and move around but what can you do!

[nobloodyname]

Got a ticket for London.
Went to an NBA EU game back in 2017, i should be in the same area of the venue.
I could barely see a thing back then, but who cares, it's a reunited DT @ the O2 Arena!!!

Loving this!

[geeeemo]

Beyond that, I've seen shows in the U.S. with 3 or 4 different presales.  Depending on the venue, you can have the band's fan club presale, the LiveNation presale, the MasterCard or American Express presale, etc.  AFAIK, there's no official U.S. DT fan Club, but they may do the above for the U.S. dates as well.  If you go to dreamtheater.net, you can sign up for the mailing list (just scroll down on the home page).  Then you'll be notified about stuff.  Credit card presales usually require you to enter the first six digits of your card to unlock the presale.  LiveNation also has a mailing list you can sign up for.


I think it must have been a condition of Mike returning that JM actually talk on stuff.  Between the RS interview and this, that must be more than JM said during the entire MM era!   

DT USA is the official US fan club. They run official preshow parties, and work with the label and usually get some stuff from them for trivia contests run at the preshows.

[CodyWanKenobi]

Well, I could type 40 or I could reference 10+10+10+10 and it would still equal 40 so it's still technically correct and let's face it, XL would be boring in my mind.

The should have done forty Roman numeral I's Lol

[crystalstars17]

Beyond that, I've seen shows in the U.S. with 3 or 4 different presales.  Depending on the venue, you can have the band's fan club presale, the LiveNation presale, the MasterCard or American Express presale, etc.  AFAIK, there's no official U.S. DT fan Club, but they may do the above for the U.S. dates as well.  If you go to dreamtheater.net, you can sign up for the mailing list (just scroll down on the home page).  Then you'll be notified about stuff.  Credit card presales usually require you to enter the first six digits of your card to unlock the presale.  LiveNation also has a mailing list you can sign up for.

Nice, thank you!

[Wim Kruithof]

Tickets for Amsterdam secured, can't wait

Congratz friend.

I've seen them five times but this year - with Portnoy being back - is brilliant. I've got tickets for the show in Köln, Germany... and also, tickets for Afas Amsterdam, the golden circle. But it's getting even better, I've got also a platinum ticket for a meet & greet. Cost me a bone from my body, but I cannot believe I'll finally be able to shake hands with the band who I've became to love so much.

[pg1067]

DT USA is the official US fan club. They run official preshow parties, and work with the label and usually get some stuff from them for trivia contests run at the preshows.

Are you talking about this:  https://www.facebook.com/dreamtheaterusa/

Looks more like just a Facebook group than a fan club (and doesn't really appear to be "official").