DREAM THEATER - Europe leg of the 40th Anniversary Tour 2024-2025

[genome]

Wonder if they'll bring back the Psycho intro

[EPIC Outro]

Folks, the AVFTTOTW reference is RIGHT in front of us!

It's the Invisible Monster.

(I'll show myself out.)

[EvantheMotel6Owmer]

Wonder if they'll bring back the Psycho intro

The Psycho intro tape followed by them coming in with the 2001 Theme was so epic.

[bosk1]

Folks, the AVFTTOTW reference is RIGHT in front of us!

It's the Invisible Monster.

(I'll show myself out.)

[EPIC Outro]

Also, since DOT is already represented by the skull, maybe the robot hand is actually...

The Killing Hand

[RaiseTheKnife]

Tickets, flights and hotel booked for London!

I had a link to the pre-sale, but got caught up with work this morning and missed the 9:00 AM opening, so prob missed out on a better seat. Grr.

Even still, its a boss move to travel for this show.  Where are you coming from?

[TheBarstoolWarrior]

How realistic is this scenario?

The single is released a week or two before the tour starts and is thus the only piece of new material played on the 40A tour. The band gets back and has a month to rest. The album drops at the end of the year and the tour begins early January.

[gzarruk]

Albums like these usually don't drop towards the end of the year (December or a little earlier). Either they save it until early 2025 (I doubt it), or release it around September/October.

[TheBarstoolWarrior]

Do you think the 40A will be a mix of DT16 and old?

[Setlist Scotty]

Maybe that's the new album callout...

Maybe, but as I said before, it's likely the lyrics haven't been written for the new songs yet, so they probably haven't started to tackle the artwork for the album.

How realistic is this scenario?

The single is released a week or two before the tour starts and is thus the only piece of new material played on the 40A tour. The band gets back and has a month to rest. The album drops at the end of the year and the tour begins early January.

I don't see that happening, although it's always a possibility. Based on what MP said in that RS interview, they want to start off the tour in a major way, which suggests that there wouldn't be a warmup leg, and that is in essence what you're suggesting. Given the time frame for which they started work on the new one (which pretty much parallels when they started work on ADToE), my guess is that it will be released some time in September, giving the public roughly a month to get familiar with it before they start the tour.

[gzarruk]

Do you think the 40A will be a mix of DT16 and old?

Well, that depends if they release the album for the start of the tour or not. Portnoy's comment makes me thing the plan is to have it out just for the tour, so I think they'll try to cover stuff from all their catalog. Would love to see them incorporate all 16 albums, but that depends on whether they want to focus more on the 40th anniversary vs DT16 and also how are the new song lengths. I guess everything's possible, but whatever they do, some people will love, others will be indiferent, and others will dislike

I think Mike P has a very good sense for crafting setlists and his hits are more than his misses with that, so I'm confident it'll work out well enough in the end.

[Setlist Scotty]

I noticed the additional 5th X and figured it was an editing oversight.

I think if you zoom in, it actually is the mountains in the background, not a 5th X.

Scratch that. I see what you're talking about now Lonk. The "fifth" X appears next to the lower right leg of the most prominent X (the one with the Majesty symbol) as another leg running parallel to the prominent one.

[The Letter M]

I think if you zoom in, it actually is the mountains in the background, not a 5th X.
Scratch that. I see what you're talking about now Lonk. The "fifth" X appears next to the lower right leg of the most prominent X (the one with the Majesty symbol) as another leg running parallel to the prominent one.

Yep, and it doesn't even have the top parts of the X, so it's more like /\ than a full X.

-Marc.

[PixelDream]

Golden circle in Amsterdam 

[nobloodyname]

I listened to Octavarium (the song) on the second half of my ride this morning. I was lucky enough to be there for the recording of Score, and this morning, combined with thinking about MP appearing on stage with the band again at The O2 in October, I had proper goosebumps. It's going to be an utterly magical moment, that appearance on stage, that first song. I'm already having tingles of excitement over it. I'm going to be beside myself on the evening, as excited as I was in the audience at Radio City Music Hall 18 years ago.

[gborland]

I listened to Octavarium (the song) on the second half of my ride this morning. I was lucky enough to be there for the recording of Score, and this morning, combined with thinking about MP appearing on stage with the band again at The O2 in October, I had proper goosebumps. It's going to be an utterly magical moment, that appearance on stage, that first song. I'm already having tingles of excitement over it. I'm going to be beside myself on the evening, as excited as I was in the audience at Radio City Music Hall 18 years ago.

I listened to it as well as I was washing the dishes last night. I've never had such a good time scrubbing a greasy pot. 

Goosebumps indeed.

[Stadler]

I listened to it as well as I was washing the dishes last night. I've never had such a good time scrubbing a greasy pot. 

Goosebumps indeed.

When you were done, did you ask yourself "could this be everything?"?

[Lonk]

Scratch that. I see what you're talking about now Lonk. The "fifth" X appears next to the lower right leg of the most prominent X (the one with the Majesty symbol) as another leg running parallel to the prominent one.

Yeah, I was just going to post this:



It's not a big deal (to me), but it is really noticeable.

[Stadler]

I just love we're pouring over artwork again, digging out nuggets.   There's NO WAY all that is an accident.  NO WAY.

[Wim Kruithof]

Bought a ticket with my best friend (who brought me into Dream Theater) for the Köln, Germany gig in october. It's a couple of hours driving but this got to be the very most emotional tour-eve I'll ever experience. And there is a huge possibility I'll be there in Amsterdam as well...

That fifth X, it's got to be the decade to come, throwing all these wonderful albums at our doorsteps.

[hunnus2000]

Yeah, I was just going to post this:



It's not a big deal (to me), but it is really noticeable.

I'll bite, what's the significance of the fifth X?

Also, can somebody please point me to the Awake reference?

[Lonk]

I'll bite, what's the significance of the fifth X?

Also, can somebody please point me to the Awake reference?

I mentioned earlier that I don't think it means anything, I think it was just an editing oversight.

[hefdaddy42]

I just love we're pouring over artwork again, digging out nuggets.   There's NO WAY all that is an accident.  NO WAY.

Well, if Hugh Syme is involved, then there is definitely ONE WAY for there to be an accident or several.

[gzarruk]

Well, if Hugh Syme is involved, then there is definitely ONE WAY for there to be an accident or several.

It's the Syme effect

[MinistroRaven]

I still want to know what the lightning is from..

I think it was a reference for the Black Clouds and Silver Lining album, the last one before MP's departure.

[Stadler]

I'll bite, what's the significance of the fifth X?

Also, can somebody please point me to the Awake reference?

The clock face (PG posted a synopsis of each album's reference on Page 10 of this thread.  Post #324 if memory serves.)

[MinistroRaven]

Yeah, I was just going to post this:



It's not a big deal (to me), but it is really noticeable.

I can't see the image you posted.

[ZirconBlue]

I don't see a 5th X, but isn't the whole thing computer generated?  Why would AI-generated look different than artist-generated on a computer?

Are you unfamiliar with AI generated art?  AI is notorious for stuff like giving people the wrong number of fingers on their hands and weird stuff like that.  Created on a computer and created by a computer are different things, with different potential pitfalls.

[cramx3]

Yeah, I was just going to post this:



It's not a big deal (to me), but it is really noticeable.

Now that I'm looking closely, it's not just 5 X's, theres even more with the smaller edges only being seen in the background under the DT logo in the center.  It actually looks terrible now that I notice.  Because even the ends of the X's don't line up size wise.  It kind of makes no sense at all. 

Are you unfamiliar with AI generated art?  AI is notorious for stuff like giving people the wrong number of fingers on their hands and weird stuff like that.  Created on a computer and created by a computer are different things, with different potential pitfalls.

Do we know if this was actually AI made?  I know what you are saying and I can see that now, just wondering if the band stated where the art came from.

[Metro]

I'm definitely starting to wonder if there's AI involved. Which is a new low for Syme's art if it's true. Heavy emphasis on if. All the little bits of past artwork are certainly original, but that extra leg and what looks like more X's in the background make me think he used an image generator just for the X's.

[crystalstars17]

I think it was a reference for the Black Clouds and Silver Lining album, the last one before MP's departure.

This was my first thought too, but there's no lighting on that one? 

[gborland]

Would AI really be any worse than the crap Syme was producing before?

[The Letter M]

Given Jordan's propensity for promoting AI software, I wouldn't be surprised if they were OK with Syme (or anyone) using it to make their artwork.

-Marc.

[PMSummer]

Personally, I don't see anything wrong with him using AI to jazz up his designs. I mean, if it helps him elevate his artwork (especially considering the quality of his own artwork in recent years)? But here's the thing, if he's gonna go that route, he really should make sure to tidy up the picture. Those X's in the poster, they start to look worse the more you stare at them. I'm not expert on AI but I can't imagine a human making those weird mistakes.

[hefdaddy42]

Given Jordan's propensity for promoting AI software, I wouldn't be surprised if they were OK with Syme (or anyone) using it to make their artwork.

-Marc.

Maybe, but I doubt they have any idea or really care HOW he produces his art.