Parasomnia Timeline Thread

[noxon]

Grumpy old men yelling at clouds...

[noxon]

Just to be clear - there are no games. No hidden things to be solved...

[Max Kuehnau]

Grumpy old men yelling at clouds...

I guessed you'd say so (seriously though, although I won't listen to the album, I do think you've always done a great job of them, this time included, but the one leading up to View was my personal favourite)

[Trav]

Am I the only one who finds this stuff tiresome.  Just wake me up when there's actual music.

In a way I feel the same. But at the same time I like that they are doing SOMETHING to build some tension and excitement. Look at the traffic we're getting here, and the social media reaction. It's the smart move.

[noxon]

I think you should have a listen. I think you might be surprised.

[noxon]

DT does nothing. 'They have such bad PR'. DT does a campaign leading up to something. 'I don't like it when there's stuff hapoening'

[Max Kuehnau]

I think you should have a listen. I think you might be surprised.

Who? Me? (as in listen to DT16) I mean, if you say so, great

[Max Kuehnau]

DT does nothing. 'They have such bad PR'. DT does a campaign leading up to something. 'I don't like it when there's stuff hapoening'

exactly 

[illusionist]

Hey Nox, do the guys ask you about what you see in the forums you participate, what are the speculations of DT fans about the album and what we are going to get?
Just so they have an idea about what people think for their teasers and if they are successful or not, based on the anticipation and excitement they create for the album?
And do they ever search the net themselves to find what people think of their newest album each time and their live performances?

[Sir Walrus Cauliflower]

I guessed you'd say so (seriously though, although I won't listen to the album, I do think you've always done a great job of them, this time included, but the one leading up to View was my personal favourite)

What do you mean you "won't listen to the album?"

And I'm confused about what's "tiresome". It's not like teasers are impeding the release, it's just generating hype. You can unfollow/mute DT on their socials if you find it so tiresome. Why does someone need to wake you up? Are you not capable of choosing to engage only with the content you want to? 

[noxon]

The short answer to all of that is "no"

[Max Kuehnau]

double post, sorry

[Max Kuehnau]

What do you mean you "won't listen to the album?"

And I'm confused about what's "tiresome". It's not like teasers are impeding the release, it's just generating hype. You can unfollow/mute DT on their socials if you find it so tiresome. Why does someone need to wake you up? Are you not capable of choosing to engage only with the content you want to? 

Leading up to D/T, there was a massive Alternate Reality Game, where people (myself included btw) had to solve riddles to find out what D/T is and all that. I loved this, some did not. Same as with leading up to View. I loved the idea, some did not. Some things won't ever change.
And I won't listen to DT16, because I'm not a fan of this lineup of DT (anymore). No more details about this from me anymore. I've spoken about it quite a bit

[Sir Walrus Cauliflower]

If you're not going to listen, why do you need woken up when there's music? Seems like an excuse to show off how obstinate you are. There are artists I won't listen to on principle (Drake, Kanye), and you're of course free to do whatever you feel like, it just makes less and less sense the more you say. 

[Progmaniac1988]

I for one don't mind the PR, I will say that this album it just feels SUPER drawn out, probably because the anticipation. I'll be so happy when album info officially comes out and we have a single to listen to, and maybe some studio vids? Psyched!

[Max Kuehnau]

It just hit me.
Could the album be about a shipwreck??

because of the fog surrounding everything? I thought about this too actually.

[Max Kuehnau]

I for one don't mind the PR, I will say that this album it just feels SUPER drawn out, probably because the anticipation. I'll be so happy when album info officially comes out and we have a single to listen to, and maybe some studio vids? Psyched!

yeah to me it kind of had been that as well (although, ironically, the writing and recording process was fairly similar in its length to that of View IIRC (slightly shorter I guess but you see what I mean)

[MinistroRaven]

If you're not going to listen, why do you need woken up when there's music? Seems like an excuse to show off how obstinate you are. There are artists I won't listen to on principle (Drake, Kanye), and you're of course free to do whatever you feel like, it just makes less and less sense the more you say. 

It was pg1067 who said the "wake me up" it wasn't Max

[Progmaniac1988]

Yeah, it's weird because I do know the process was just abt the same. View seemed to come about faster (at-least that's how it felt) but I think we got a little more info last time before official announcement. I remember hearing about Sneap, and 7 tracks, and having an epic on the album before the full info came out. This time it's 100% under wraps.

[evilasiojr]

Noxon, not sure if you can answer to this or not, but can you compare your excitement or whatever feeling you had when you listened to this album to any other DT album? And if yes, can you say which one? Again, just your feeling, not implying the music is any similar necessarily

[Max Kuehnau]

It was pg1067 who said the "wake me up" it wasn't Max

yeah but I guess they thought I am an obstinate (or stubborn) person, which is true to a degree I guess. And besides, I think it's my responsibility to finish the timeline thread for the album too (as I have done ever since D/T with a friend of mine and I always enjoy doing this too, so there you are)

[Max Kuehnau]

Yeah, it's weird because I do know the process was just abt the same. View seemed to come about faster (at-least that's how it felt) but I think we got a little more info last time before official announcement. I remember hearing about Sneap, and 7 tracks, and having an epic on the album before the full info came out. This time it's 100% under wraps.

exactly (which is for a reason I'm sure) And yes, I had the impression that View got done faster too (although it's insanely involved and dense and their most difficult album in their history)

[pg1067]

DT does nothing. 'They have such bad PR'. DT does a campaign leading up to something. 'I don't like it when there's stuff hapoening'

To be clear, I've never said or thought the first part of this.  I got a bit into the stuff in advance of TA.  I followed along with the stuff leading up to DOT (although it very quickly went over my head - i.e., it required far more thought and attention than I cared to pay at the time).  I don't remember anything leading up to View.  "Just let me know when the new music is ready" has ALWAYS been my attitude - going back to when I was a teenager and my friends and I would stop at the record store every Tuesday and be happy to find out that one of our favorite bands had released something new.

If you're not going to listen, why do you need woken up when there's music?

I'm the guy who said wake me up when there's new music.  Max is the guy who's saying he won't listen.  I absolutely will listen.

[HOF]

I don't know what prior DT releases have been like, but it's been about 8 months since they started making this one and people are acting like it's been an eternity.

[Max Kuehnau]

To be clear, I've never said or thought the first part of this.  I got a bit into the stuff in advance of TA.  I followed along with the stuff leading up to DOT (although it very quickly went over my head - i.e., it required far more thought and attention than I cared to pay at the time).  I don't remember anything leading up to View.  "Just let me know when the new music is ready" has ALWAYS been my attitude - going back to when I was a teenager and my friends and I would stop at the record store every Tuesday and be happy to find out that one of our favorite bands had released something new.


I'm the guy who said wake me up when there's new music.  Max is the guy who's saying he won't listen.  I absolutely will listen.

yeah I'm sure you will (and enjoy it too, ideally)

[Progmaniac1988]

yeah but I guess they thought I am an obstinate (or stubborn) person, which is true to a degree I guess. And besides, I think it's my responsibility to finish the timeline thread for the album too (as I have done ever since D/T with a friend of mine and I always enjoy doing this too, so there you are)

It's all good man, you don't have to explain yourself anymore. I do hope you soften up to the line up and give it a chance, but that's on you 100%

[Max Kuehnau]

I don't know what prior DT releases have been like, but it's been about 8 months since they started making this one and people are acting like it's been an eternity.

well, to some, it has been  (and to be honest, I myself had wondered why there weren't any news about the album, but I'm sure that had to do with MP rejoining, knowing what we know now that is) And to give you an idea about what even earlier album cycles were, I remember the secrecy around Met2 (which was 25 years ago), I'm no stranger to it all hehe

[emtee]

Two of those lines almost seem like a shipwreck situation. Nocturnal trial by fire however throws me off.

I'm now inclined to agree with lyrics for the first single.

I  imagine Noxon gets quite a few laughs reading all our goofy posts.

[cramx3]

DT does nothing. 'They have such bad PR'. DT does a campaign leading up to something. 'I don't like it when there's stuff hapoening'

Aint that the truth 

I usually don't follow the teasers too closely, but I enjoy and appreciate the band doing these things and do believe in the end, the engagement is for the best for the band.

[Lonk]

yeah but I guess they thought I am an obstinate (or stubborn) person, which is true to a degree I guess. And besides, I think it's my responsibility to finish the timeline thread for the album too (as I have done ever since D/T with a friend of mine and I always enjoy doing this too, so there you are)

I, for one, enjoy these threads and hope you continue to do them when (or if) we get future albums.

[Sir Walrus Cauliflower]

exactly (which is for a reason I'm sure) And yes, I had the impression that View got done faster too (although it's insanely involved and dense and their most difficult album in their history)

Sorry mate, my bad    I was definitely confusing your comments. I'm on on mobile and this site is way harder to use on mobile than desktop.

*snip*
I'm the guy who said wake me up when there's new music.  Max is the guy who's saying he won't listen.  I absolutely will listen.

I realize that now. Sorry to you both 

because of the fog surrounding everything? I thought about this too actually.

I meant to respond to the shipwreck theory earlier too but I guess I didn't post. I actually quite like that theory, though I'm not 100% sure how "vanishing at sunrise" suits it. But a shipwreck story about the crews survival and subsequent reunion could be a cool (if not so subtle) allegory for the band's journey over the last decade and half.

[brakkum]

I don't know what prior DT releases have been like, but it's been about 8 months since they started making this one and people are acting like it's been an eternity.

For me it's a mix of MP being back, the lack of info around it, and also the countdown for the London show. I'm trying to contain my excitement and not overhype, but it's been difficult for me

[Max Kuehnau]

I, for one, enjoy these threads and hope you continue to do them when (or if) we get future albums.

Yeah I mean, we will see. Seeing as I have been thanked more than once for doing them during and after these three album cycles for which they appeared (which surprises me to this day btw. I never even thought *one person* would appreciate them), I might keep the tradition going. Including all the DTF-inherent quirks 

[Progmaniac1988]

I don't know what prior DT releases have been like, but it's been about 8 months since they started making this one and people are acting like it's been an eternity.

Yeah this is why I said "I know it hasn't really been any longer than usual" because I totally get it's just my impatience and anticipation lol

[Max Kuehnau]

Sorry mate, my bad    I was definitely confusing your comments. I'm on on mobile and this site is way harder to use on mobile than desktop.
I realize that now. Sorry to you both 
I meant to respond to the shipwreck theory earlier too but I guess I didn't post. I actually quite like that theory, though I'm not 100% sure how "vanishing at sunrise" suits it. But a shipwreck story about the crews survival and subsequent reunion could be a cool (if not so subtle) allegory for the band's journey over the last decade and half.

no offense taken, all good. Oh and btw, concerning vanishing at dawn: The flying Dutchman's ship and that of Daland and his crew do depart at sunrise. (you might know about the opera by Wagner)