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Max Kuehnau

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Quote from: gzarruk on October 05, 2024, 08:17:07 AMLike pure, unfiltered nostalgia :lol
exactly, but what else would we expect given all the events ever since last year? (not a dig at anyone, just my observations and thoughts)
All my natural instincts are begging me to stop
But somehow I carry on, heading for the top
A physical absurdity, a tremendous mental game
Helping me understand exactly who I am

gzarruk

I know there's tons of fans excited for a possible Metropolis pt. 3 and think it'd be the best thing ever, but imagine if it was Mangini and not Portnoy behind the drums, most fan reaction would be the complete opposite. 

"How dare them" (in Greta's voice) make something like that!  :rollin

(just some food for thought)

Max Kuehnau

All my natural instincts are begging me to stop
But somehow I carry on, heading for the top
A physical absurdity, a tremendous mental game
Helping me understand exactly who I am

Sir Walrus Cauliflower

Quote from: gzarruk on October 05, 2024, 08:12:56 AMI HOPE it's not Met. pt. 3, but we'll know soon, I guess :metal

This is the camp I've been in since the reunion was announced. That said, I have something like Blind Faith is these guys at this point. They've put out 15 albums and 11 of them are among my favorite music ever. After nearly a decade and a half separation of the OG trio, I'm sure it will be fresh regardless of the title/concept. Besides, sometimes working within some constrained framework actually brings out the creativity in artists - maybe that's what MP3 would be for DT.

There are a million places they could go with it too. If they lean into the reincarnation element (which seems like a necessity if the previous story is to be continued), it could absolutely invoke the trippy/ethereal/dreamy vibes I've been hoping to hear more of.

If it gets DT excited, it gets me excited. I hardly care what it is at this point - I just want to know.
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TheBarstoolWarrior

Quote from: gzarruk on October 05, 2024, 08:22:54 AMI know there's tons of fans excited for a possible Metropolis pt. 3 and think it'd be the best thing ever, but imagine if it was Mangini and not Portnoy behind the drums, most fan reaction would be the complete opposite. 

"How dare them" (in Greta's voice) make something like that!  :rollin

(just some food for thought)

Yup. If we are getting M3 this whole thing is even more of a nostalgia play.
Disclaimer: All opinions stated are my own unless otherwise specified. I do not personally know any present or former members of DT. From time to time where the context is or should be obvious, I may decline to explicitly label my words as opinion. I cannot predict the future.

Max Kuehnau

it still is even if that were unlikely to happen, because ticket sales soared after MP came back and all that (and these are such a defining factor these days), but you're right
All my natural instincts are begging me to stop
But somehow I carry on, heading for the top
A physical absurdity, a tremendous mental game
Helping me understand exactly who I am

wizard

Is there a written message on the video, who's on the Facebook Dream theater's page?

Sir Walrus Cauliflower

Quote from: TheBarstoolWarrior on October 05, 2024, 08:29:22 AMYup. If we are getting M3 this whole thing is even more of a nostalgia play.

I would like to point out that a "nostalgia play" isn't inherently in-authentic, artificially constructed, or financially motivated. It's quite possible and even more likely in my opinion that the nostalgia driving this (still hypothetical and unconfirmed) choice originates from within the band organically, rather than from some attempt at capitalizing on the nostalgia of fans. If it happens to do both, all the better for us and them as far as I'm concerned. I'm sure the energy at the shows will be improved from what I've seen on the last few tours.

I think if I reunited with four of my best friends and musical soulmates after this long, it would evoke both nostalgia and creativity.
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Progmaniac1988

I'm all for nostalgia to a degree, but I really hope it's just something completely new. I 100% did not think it was met3 all this time, but I'm starting to feel like it could possibly be. We shall see!

TheHoveringSojourn808

maybe it's a prog concept album about the departure of MM (Mike Miracle) and the reeturn of his pal MP (Mike sleePer)
I'm never sleeping in a teepee again - Father John Misty

emtee

100% agreed and well said.

Although nothing has been confirmed and we are all in the dark still :tup

I am responding to SWC just to be clear.

hefdaddy42

I am NOT looking for Metropolis 3. But if that's what this is, they had better fucking kill it.
Quote from: BlobVanDam on December 11, 2014, 08:19:46 PMHef is right on all things. Except for when I disagree with him. In which case he's probably still right.

TheHoveringSojourn808

thanks for agreeing with me, I think I am onto something, too
I'm never sleeping in a teepee again - Father John Misty

Progmaniac1988

Quote from: Sir Walrus Cauliflower on October 05, 2024, 09:03:39 AMI would like to point out that a "nostalgia play" isn't inherently in-authentic, artificially constructed, or financially motivated. It's quite possible and even more likely in my opinion that the nostalgia driving this (still hypothetical and unconfirmed) choice originates from within the band organically, rather than from some attempt at capitalizing on the nostalgia of fans. If it happens to do both, all the better for us and them as far as I'm concerned. I'm sure the energy at the shows will be improved from what I've seen on the last few tours.

I think if I reunited with four of my best friends and musical soulmates after this long, it would evoke both nostalgia and creativity.

Yeah I agree, I feel some fans are still a bit sour abt Mangini being let go. So there's some (but not much) negativity surrounding the reunion. I get it. I was very sad for a while when Portnoy left (although I NEVER had any issues with MM). Portnoy is an original member... they can't avoid the "nostalgia money grab" accusations even if they tried. This is just going to be how it is now in the camp unfortunately. Can't keep us all happy lol

fadetoblackdude7

Quote from: hefdaddy42 on October 05, 2024, 09:11:35 AMI am NOT looking for Metropolis 3. But if that's what this is, they had better fucking kill it.
Agree with all of this

Skeever


wizard


HOF

I don't follow the official DT Twitter account, so imagine my surprise when I went to look at that video and noticed that they follow me! Odd.
Quote from: TAC on December 12, 2024, 05:40:22 PM"No way" is kind of strong, but I do lean with HOF.

genome

Quote from: hefdaddy42 on October 05, 2024, 09:11:35 AMI am NOT looking for Metropolis 3. But if that's what this is, they had better fucking kill it.

This is the thing, they will be well aware of the legacy, so I dunno if they would slap that label on something they don't think is killer. For me it would be a massive vote of confidence

HOF

I am less of a fan of Met. pt 2 than most DT fans (it's fine with some really great parts, but I don't care about the story and I don't have the same reverence most do for it as a whole), so I don't know if Met. pt 3 is really exciting at all for me, even if you promised me it was on par with pt. 2. But it's also not an unclearable bar for me, so maybe it would be cool. I dunno, nostalgia is probably a bigger draw for me than it is for people who have been following the band closely the last 13 years. So maybe it could be good. It seems lazy to me, but maybe they can do lazy really well. My expectations remain somewhat low whether it's Met pt. 3 or not I guess. Maybe this is all a big misdirect because they know people are starting to speculate about it being Met pt. 3.
Quote from: TAC on December 12, 2024, 05:40:22 PM"No way" is kind of strong, but I do lean with HOF.

The Letter M

If Vanishing At Sunrise is the title, I hope it's something different from what we're all expecting - a VAS Difference, if you will.

-Marc.

sfam2112

Looks they've gone back to using the DT12 style/extended Majesty symbol. Interesting. 🤔🙂

Sir Walrus Cauliflower

Quote from: sfam2112 on October 05, 2024, 10:38:46 AMLooks they've gone back to using the DT12 style/extended Majesty symbol. Interesting. 🤔🙂

Someone on reddit speculated that it's intended to emphasize the "III". We're really reaching now but that's what the DT fandom is all about  :rollin
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DeanTheater

Hola, first post in many years. Shook off the rust after the announcement of a possible M3! Good to still see some familiar peeps are alive and well!

Jamesman42

Quote from: DeanTheater on October 05, 2024, 11:16:49 AMHola, first post in many years. Shook off the rust after the announcement of a possible M3! Good to still see some familiar peeps are alive and qell!
I somehow remember you!
\o\ lol /o/

DeanTheater


Pettor

I am all in for MT3. It would be fun even if it won't, and probably can't, be as good as part 2. You get one life, so why not? And the timing is perfect I think.

MirrorMask

Quote from: hefdaddy42 on October 05, 2024, 09:11:35 AMI am NOT looking for Metropolis 3. But if that's what this is, they had better fucking kill it.

Indeed. They got away with "Surprise, Metropolis part 2 is not a song, it's an entire album!" 'cause it was the best thing ever happened to mankind since the invention of the wheel (and human rights I guess). If they blow the significance of Metropolis part 3 just like they blew the self titled album (it's not bad, but it's just another album, nothing more and nothing less, they coul drop it forever from the setlists and only a tiny fraction of the fans would complain), it's gonna be a "step longer than the leg" like we say in Italy.

MoraWintersoul

I mean, I've been at the front section of the Met3 train all along (look at my previous posts if you want to be gently nudged at thinking it would actually be a good idea), but I don't think this is exactly it. But I think they're going to use the reaction to this to gauge how people would really feel about a Met3 if it were imminent! My reason for thinking this is because MP said they're not talking about it right now, so clearly he's not opposed, but it doesn't sound like something he would say if he were just keeping a secret.

With all the Noxon hints, they're clearly hinting at dreams, sleeping, waking up and all of that, so I think something referencing Awake is at stake here, even if one song on the album - maybe the first single? Idk idk. Idk if they would do something like that, maybe it's a concept album about a theater of dreams, whatever that turns out to be! Watch me eat my words when it turns out MP just lied and they were discussing Met3 all along!


Max Kuehnau

All my natural instincts are begging me to stop
But somehow I carry on, heading for the top
A physical absurdity, a tremendous mental game
Helping me understand exactly who I am

MirrorMask

Quote from: MoraWintersoul on October 05, 2024, 12:02:45 PMWith all the Noxon hints, they're clearly hinting at dreams, sleeping, waking up and all of that, so I think something referencing Awake is at stake here, even if one song on the album - maybe the first single? Idk idk. Idk if they would do something like that, maybe it's a concept album about a theater of dreams, whatever that turns out to be! Watch me eat my words when it turns out MP just lied and they were discussing Met3 all along!

Well, dreams do vanish at sunrise, as in we forget more and more about them the more we're awake...

MoraWintersoul

Quote from: MirrorMask on October 05, 2024, 12:27:19 PMWell, dreams do vanish at sunrise, as in we forget more and more about them the more we're awake...
Yeah, that's exactly what I was thinking. All of the hints are pointing in the direction of "dream". But they already did a self-titled album for no particular reason :lol

Jamesman42

Yeah, that's funny, and they could even change the band name to reference having dreams.
\o\ lol /o/

Bacong

awakened at dawn
land dead ahead
with the winds of the morning we change course
no remorse
a place forbidden to all