"Official" Lost Not Forgotten (official bootlegs) thread

[TAC]

My gut feeling is that the posted tracklisting is simply missing it. If you watch the broadcast, they go right from BitS to BtV:
https://youtu.be/B0fPY9PPB2E?t=3851

So either they'd have to fade out the end of BitS or edit the ending some other way. And given that BtV hasn't been played much, I can't imagine them not including it. Plus, the whole thing - including BtV - is less than 72 minutes, so it easily will all fit on one CD.

My biggest disappointment is what someone else posted: that they didn't pick one of the shows where the full length set was played, especially given that the Wacken broadcast is widely in circulation already and it's well established that it isn't one of JL's better performances. I get that they may want to keep it to a single CD, but given how cheap manufacturing CDs is these days, they should just go for a full show. Even with vinyl, I'm sure it will still be a double LP, and I'd imagine they could still squeeze a full show onto a double LP set still.

I kind of think the tracklist is simply missing BTV too. If it's in there, I'll definitely get it.

But yeah, the fact that it's been on youtube the whole time makes it a curious choice for a release.

[gzarruk]

Would be a huge bummer if they're missing THAT one song, yet we get another live version of TSCO, AIA and Metropolis from the current lineup. And I still haven't recovered from them omitting ACOS from not one, but TWO releases from the Budokan show in 2017

[gzarruk]

Burning Shed has both the CD and Vinyl tracklists and there's no BTV in either of them

https://burningshed.com/dream-theater_live-at-wacken_double-vinyl_cd?filter_name=dream%20theater&filter_sub_category=true

[Ben_Jamin]

I was watching the Wacken broadcast and JLB ends up ending the lyrics to Constant Motion early, and goes for the big ending, yet comes back in and does it again. I wonder if they'll fix that or leave it in. And also that weird vocal effect at the end of Panic Attack.

[Hypnotherapist]

Really, Inside Out can't correctly specify what it releases itself.
They inform that they will be 2 CDs and 2 LPs in the product description and in the title they inform 2LP + CD (... and they didn't publish the tracklist):
https://www.insideoutshop.de/products/dream-theater-lost-not-forgotten-archives-live-at-wacken-2015gatefold-black-2lp-cd?_pos=2&_sid=fdb002017&_ss=r
https://www.insideoutshop.de/products/dream-theater-lost-not-forgotten-archives-live-at-wacken-2015special-edition-cd-digipak?_pos=2&_sid=b856939d3&_ss=r

[hefdaddy42]

I don't care about the Wacken show.

But hey, the Made In Japan set that dropped Friday was FIRE.  I haven't listened to it in years, and Deep Purple isn't usually my thing, but that set rocked pretty hard.

[Lonk]

It'll be roughly 71 minutes if this YouTube video is anything to go by.

-Marc.

44:44 WTF? 

https://youtu.be/B0fPY9PPB2E?t=2684

[TAC]

But hey, the Made In Japan set that dropped Friday was FIRE.  I haven't listened to it in years, and Deep Purple isn't usually my thing, but that set rocked pretty hard.

Definitely. That is easily my favorite of the 4 cover albums.

[Stadler]

I don't care about the Wacken show.

But hey, the Made In Japan set that dropped Friday was FIRE.  I haven't listened to it in years, and Deep Purple isn't usually my thing, but that set rocked pretty hard.

I AM a pretty big Deep Purple fan and it's the bomb-diddley for sure.

[Madman Shepherd]

I'm a huge Deep Purple fan and the album is...fine.

[Bluefish]

Maybe we'll get an "Encores" disc with the songs they've cut from these releases.

That would be nice.

[Bluefish]

I'm a huge Deep Purple fan and the album is...fine.

Same.  Blackmore inspired me to learn guitar when I heard the solo for Gates of Babylon by Rainbow.

[goo-goo]

Loving JP's guitar tone on this release, how it resonates, how it sounds, how it was mixed...Did he do something different in this show?

[Bluefish]

Is there any update on the Images and Words demos?  Has anyone received CDs with the correct music on them?

[MarceloMalulo]

Next release!

Live at Madison Square Garden 2010
https://www.blackvinylrecordsspain.com/products/dream-theater-lost-not-forgotten-archives-live-at-madison-square-garden-2lps-cd

[The Letter M]

Next release!

Live at Madison Square Garden 2010
https://www.blackvinylrecordsspain.com/products/dream-theater-lost-not-forgotten-archives-live-at-madison-square-garden-2lps-cd

https://www.setlist.fm/setlist/dream-theater/2010/madison-square-garden-new-york-ny-63d472a3.html

As I Am
A Rite of Passage
Act II: Scene Six: Home
Constant Motion
Panic Attack
Pull Me Under

Six songs for a double vinyl? Were there any extended jams in this set?

-Marc.

[TAC]

I'd much rather an actual BC&SL show. At least we're getting something old/new.
Not my favorite set of songs, but this setlist was masterfully crafted for the Iron Maiden tour. Each song's tempo was increased from the previous one, until you get to Pull Me Under.

The bootleg to this show is cool in that you can hear the crowd getting more into it as the set progressed.

[Madman Shepherd]

Heh, Constant Motion two bootlegs in a row? I'm in!

[devieira73]

I'll buy this, since I'm a super DT fan and a collector. No doubt, it should be an interesting performance. But, really, why release this show as the first from the Black Clouds tour?! 

[gzarruk]

I'm hoping for Summer Sonic Tokyo 2010 at some point (MP's last performance in the band).

[hefdaddy42]

I will certainly listen when it hits Spotify, but no way would I buy this.

[axeman90210]

I might purchase digitally, but I don't think it's worth paying for vinyl.

[Stadler]

Is it just me, or do they need to slow their roll on the ANNOUNCEMENTS.  I saw the 2010 release (I'm only getting the ones that weren't Ytejam releases) and thought "wait, I think I missed one..." and I did, the Wacken 2015 one.  But that's not released until DECEMBER!  I'm old; I can't remember all this shit! 

[Lonk]

Ah, the show I had tickets for and never made it. Should be a fun listen.

[gzarruk]

Is it just me, or do they need to slow their roll on the ANNOUNCEMENTS.  I saw the 2010 release (I'm only getting the ones that weren't Ytejam releases) and thought "wait, I think I missed one..." and I did, the Wacken 2015 one.  But that's not released until DECEMBER!  I'm old; I can't remember all this shit! 

They announce every new one two months before release, so they can sort out all the logistics. With one coming every month, that's a lot of "hey, we're now releasing this" for sure

I know this won't ever happen, but I kinda selfishly wish they either released them faster or at least gave us a heads up of all the new stuff coming out in the year or whatever. Why? Because since this started, I've been patiently waiting for the Bucharest and Santiago shows, and there's still no luck with that

[Bluefish]

Next release!

Live at Madison Square Garden 2010
https://www.blackvinylrecordsspain.com/products/dream-theater-lost-not-forgotten-archives-live-at-madison-square-garden-2lps-cd

https://www.setlist.fm/setlist/dream-theater/2010/madison-square-garden-new-york-ny-63d472a3.html

As I Am
A Rite of Passage
Act II: Scene Six: Home
Constant Motion
Panic Attack
Pull Me Under

Six songs for a double vinyl? Were there any extended jams in this set?

-Marc.

I was there.

[pg1067]

Next release!

Live at Madison Square Garden 2010
https://www.blackvinylrecordsspain.com/products/dream-theater-lost-not-forgotten-archives-live-at-madison-square-garden-2lps-cd

https://www.setlist.fm/setlist/dream-theater/2010/madison-square-garden-new-york-ny-63d472a3.html

As I Am
A Rite of Passage
Act II: Scene Six: Home
Constant Motion
Panic Attack
Pull Me Under

Six songs for a double vinyl? Were there any extended jams in this set?

-Marc.

This was when they opened for Iron Maiden, so there's nothing extended, and it was only about a 50-60 minute set.  If you add up the lengths of the album tracks it comes in somewhere just under 55 minutes.

Also, what is the site to review this catalog for folks in the U.S. who just want CDs?  When you click through from DT.net, it takes you to a link for a bunch of streaming services, a site that wants me to pay in Euro, and one place where you can buy vinyl/CD combo sets, but I can't find a link for just CDs.

[Setlist Scotty]

Also, what is the site to review this catalog for folks in the U.S. who just want CDs?  When you click through from DT.net, it takes you to a link for a bunch of streaming services, a site that wants me to pay in Euro, and one place where you can buy vinyl/CD combo sets, but I can't find a link for just CDs.

Doesn't look like they have it up for pre-sale yet, but I *highly* recommend going with lasercd.com - they are an excellent alternative to Amazon and specialize in all sorts of prog rock/metal and other stuff, on CD, vinyl and special packages. IIRC, they can ship out at media rate to minimize the shipping costs. Never had a problem with them.

[OpenYourEyes311]

Two new ones back to back! Nice!

[pg1067]

Also, what is the site to review this catalog for folks in the U.S. who just want CDs?  When you click through from DT.net, it takes you to a link for a bunch of streaming services, a site that wants me to pay in Euro, and one place where you can buy vinyl/CD combo sets, but I can't find a link for just CDs.

Doesn't look like they have it up for pre-sale yet, but I *highly* recommend going with lasercd.com - they are an excellent alternative to Amazon and specialize in all sorts of prog rock/metal and other stuff, on CD, vinyl and special packages. IIRC, they can ship out at media rate to minimize the shipping costs. Never had a problem with them.

Thanks!

[goo-goo]

Can't go wrong with Ken at LaserCD.com. Been buying from him for many years and I've had no single issue at all.

[Cool Chris]

I was so excited when I saw DT was touring with IM, as my fandom for both was really high at that time. Then I saw DT play a full one-off show in PDX the night before, which was amazing, but left their set the next time a bit of a lead balloon.

[jimgolf]

Definitely would really like to hear one of the full shows from the black clouds tour(especially the recorded summer sonic last show with portnoy) but I'm happy we are at least getting something from the very limited black clouds tour. Most of the performances on that tour were excellent and James sounded fantastic.

Side Note: I've been listening to the Old Bridge live show which was just released on streaming services and I got a laugh at the part in the The Mirror where Portnoy screams hypocrite and James just starts cracking up.

Second Side Note: I finished the Old Bridge snow and man, it's a great show! James sounds great, and the early versions of the Falling into Infinity songs come across great live. If anyone hasn't heard it, check it out 

[don_waka]

I've just finished listening to the LNF released on Thursday (Old Bridge, New Jersey 96), last week. It is the same they released back in 2006 as an official bootleg, right? Just checking if I've gone crazy or something...

[hefdaddy42]

I've just finished listening to the LNF released on Thursday (Old Bridge, New Jersey 96), last week. It is the same they released back in 2006 as an official bootleg, right? Just checking if I've gone crazy or something...

Yes, it's the same.