"Official" Lost Not Forgotten (official bootlegs) thread

[Trav]

Now that the band are back on tour and aren't playing these songs, I'd love to see another release similar to A Dramatic Tour of Events Select Board Mixes/Happy Holidays where they include all the tracks they've performed live the last few tours that haven't seen an official live release from this lineup yet.

Not counting the songs they're currently playing or anything from TA (since I think/hope that'll be a separate release), we have:

Afterlife (2015)
Don't Look Past Me (2017)
A Change of Seasons (2017)
Burning My Soul (2015)
Hell's Kitchen (2017)
Panic Attack (2015)
Constant Motion (2015)
Wither (2015)
The Bigger Picture (2017)
Behind the Veil (2015)

Just make a proper tracklist out of it, and you have a killer 80-minute live set they could fit into one CD and release through the LNFA

Take my money!!

[gzarruk]

I'd buy that.

Take my money!!

Now I just need someone from the band's management to read this and we're set

[Setlist Scotty]

Now that the band are back on tour and aren't playing these songs, I'd love to see another release similar to A Dramatic Tour of Events Select Board Mixes/Happy Holidays where they include all the tracks they've performed live the last few tours that haven't seen an official live release from this lineup yet.

Not counting the songs they're currently playing or anything from TA (since I think/hope that'll be a separate release), we have:

Afterlife (2015)
Don't Look Past Me (2017)
A Change of Seasons (2017)
Burning My Soul (2015)
Hell's Kitchen (2017)
Panic Attack (2015)
Constant Motion (2015)
Wither (2015)
The Bigger Picture (2017)
Behind the Veil (2015)

Just make a proper tracklist out of it, and you have a killer 80-minute live set they could fit into one CD and release through the LNFA

Please no compilations! But them releasing one of the full-length shows from that brief tour they did in 2015? I'd be lined up for that in a heartbeat.

[TAC]

Please no compilations! But them releasing one of the full-length shows from that brief tour they did in 2015? I'd be lined up for that in a heartbeat.

I agree. I mean, I'd take a compilation if one were offered, but my preference would be the same as yours.

[pg1067]

Please no compilations! But them releasing one of the full-length shows from that brief tour they did in 2015? I'd be lined up for that in a heartbeat.

I agree. I mean, I'd take a compilation if one were offered, but my preference would be the same as yours.

The fact that Wither has only ever been played twice in the U.S. is damn shame.

[TAC]

Please no compilations! But them releasing one of the full-length shows from that brief tour they did in 2015? I'd be lined up for that in a heartbeat.

I agree. I mean, I'd take a compilation if one were offered, but my preference would be the same as yours.

The fact that Wither has only ever been played twice in the U.S. is damn shame.

I saw one of them. 

[bosk1]

Well, it bores me, so I'm fine with that. 

[Cool Chris]

Without analyzing the setlist too much I'd consider buying something like this.

[svisser]

I just bought my first one. The upcoming majesty Demos.

[MarceloMalulo]

Next Lost Not Forgotten Archives release: ... and Beyond - Live in Japan, 2017

"...And Beyond - Live In Japan 2017" was recorded at the historic Budokan in Tokyo, Japan as part of the "Images, Words & Beyond" Tour  2017.

TRACKLIST
1. The Dark Eternal Night
2. The Bigger Picture
3. Hell's Kitchen
4. The Gift of Music
5. Our New World
6. Portrait of Tracy
7. As I Am
8. Breaking All Illusions

Out on April, 8th.

https://napalmrecords.com/english/lost-not-forgotten-archives-and-beyond-live-in-japan-2017-digipak-cd.html

[gzarruk]

Next Lost Not Forgotten Archives release: ... and Beyond - Live in Japan, 2017

"...And Beyond - Live In Japan 2017" was recorded at the historic Budokan in Tokyo, Japan as part of the "Images, Words & Beyond" Tour  2017.

TRACKLIST
1. The Dark Eternal Night
2. The Bigger Picture
3. Hell's Kitchen
4. The Gift of Music
5. Our New World
6. Portrait of Tracy
7. As I Am
8. Breaking All Illusions

Out on April, 8th.

https://napalmrecords.com/english/lost-not-forgotten-archives-and-beyond-live-in-japan-2017-digipak-cd.html

YES!

Missing ACOS, though
hopefully it makes its way to another of these releases

[Cool Chris]

That looks totally underwhelming. I remember seeing that set list the first time and thought it was unimpressive. Then I wondered who Tracy was.

[gzarruk]

That looks totally underwhelming. I remember seeing that set list the first time and thought it was unimpressive. Then I wondered who Tracy was.

The're just completing their 2017 Budokan show (sans ACOS). Being someone who collects official live versions of DT songs to make the ultimate live playlist with the best version of wach one, I really aprreciate getting these new additions

[TAC]

Why couldn't they release the whole damn show at once?

[Stadler]

So....  I'll be that guy, why no ACOS?  Is there a reason it's not being released (bearing in mind I did not add up the times to see if it was a CD space issue).

[bosk1]

Why couldn't they release the whole damn show at once?

Because

[gzarruk]

Why couldn't they release the whole damn show at once?

I surely would've liked that, but I guess more releases = more income $.

(not saying this is their reasoning, but it could be )

So....  I'll be that guy, why no ACOS?  Is there a reason it's not being released (bearing in mind I did not add up the times to see if it was a CD space issue).

They would need a 3 disc release for the whole show, which they might not want to do for these things. Also, it would've been Disc 1, this release; disc 2, IAW in full; and disc 3, just ACOS. Too much hassle just for a single song on disc 3.

[TAC]

I&W and ACOS should fit on one disc easily.

[gzarruk]

I&W and ACOS should fit on one disc easily.

Not with all the extra sections/solos/improvs they added to IAW for that tour.

[TAC]

I&W and ACOS should fit on one disc easily.

Not with all the extra sections/solos/improvs they added to IAW for that tour.

Oh. Ooops.

[Deadeye21]

Next Lost Not Forgotten Archives release: ... and Beyond - Live in Japan, 2017

"...And Beyond - Live In Japan 2017" was recorded at the historic Budokan in Tokyo, Japan as part of the "Images, Words & Beyond" Tour  2017.

TRACKLIST
1. The Dark Eternal Night
2. The Bigger Picture
3. Hell's Kitchen
4. The Gift of Music
5. Our New World
6. Portrait of Tracy
7. As I Am
8. Breaking All Illusions

Out on April, 8th.

https://napalmrecords.com/english/lost-not-forgotten-archives-and-beyond-live-in-japan-2017-digipak-cd.html

I'm going to get this, because I was very happy to be at that tour. But why the hell are they not also putting the A Change of Seasons encore onto this? I'm actually really disappointed. I get it couldn't fit on the I&W disc, but it would've easily fit onto this disc. Now we just don't get it?

[TheCountOfNYC]

Next Lost Not Forgotten Archives release: ... and Beyond - Live in Japan, 2017

"...And Beyond - Live In Japan 2017" was recorded at the historic Budokan in Tokyo, Japan as part of the "Images, Words & Beyond" Tour  2017.

TRACKLIST
1. The Dark Eternal Night
2. The Bigger Picture
3. Hell's Kitchen
4. The Gift of Music
5. Our New World
6. Portrait of Tracy
7. As I Am
8. Breaking All Illusions

Out on April, 8th.

https://napalmrecords.com/english/lost-not-forgotten-archives-and-beyond-live-in-japan-2017-digipak-cd.html

YES!

Missing ACOS, though
hopefully it makes its way to another of these releases

Next release: Oh Yeah This One, Too! - Live in Japan, 2017

Track listing

1: A Change of Seasons
2: A Change of Seasons
3: Intermission (Abridged)
4: A Change of Seasons

[Stadler]

If not a separate CD, then a download, at least?

[425]

I don't tend to like it when bands release an incomplete show, so I'm definitely looking forward to ...And Beyond as a step in the right direction while also being disappointed that ACoS will still be missing. Also excited for the long-overdue release of The Bigger Picture live!

Hopefully someday we get a LNF compilation that cleans up some of the missing pieces, including that ACoS. Maybe those songs from 2015 that gzarruk mentioned plus ACoS 2017. That would be about an hour.

I would also love to see the rest of Once in a Livetime, although I'm not optimistic given that YtseJam never did it, and Another Day from Live at the Marquee. I'd actually love the full Marquee show, but I don't think that's possible given that almost all the vocals were re-recorded.

[TheRich13]

Would anyone happen to know the complete list of these LNF vinyl releases so far ?
Reason I'm asking , I have some in my possession already and many more on preorder and it's kinda confusing and I want to make sure I haven't missed any .
Thanks so much to anyone that can help me out !!

Rich

[425]

Yeah, I was thinking recently that it would be nice to see the OP updated, because it's hard to keep track. I believe this is all of them:

June 2021: Images and Words - Live in Japan 2017
July 2021: A Dramatic Tour of Events - Select Board Mixes
August 2021: Train of Thought Instrumental Demos
September 2021: Master of Puppets - Live in Barcelona 2002
December 2021: When Dream and Day Reunite
January 2022: The Majesty Demos
February 2022: Awake Demos
March 2022: Live in NYC 1993
April 2022: ...And Beyond - Live in Japan 2017

[TheRich13]

Thanks much bro ! And a Kamelot fan too no less !!
Awesome !
Appreciate ya !
...Rich

[Stadler]

I don't tend to like it when bands release an incomplete show, so I'm definitely looking forward to ...And Beyond as a step in the right direction while also being disappointed that ACoS will still be missing. Also excited for the long-overdue release of The Bigger Picture live!

Hopefully someday we get a LNF compilation that cleans up some of the missing pieces, including that ACoS. Maybe those songs from 2015 that gzarruk mentioned plus ACoS 2017. That would be about an hour.

I would also love to see the rest of Once in a Livetime, although I'm not optimistic given that YtseJam never did it, and Another Day from Live at the Marquee. I'd actually love the full Marquee show, but I don't think that's possible given that almost all the vocals were re-recorded.

"Another Day" IS available; you have to search for it, but it's a b-side to the "Lie" CD single.

I'm with you on wanting the complete shows that went into "Once In A Livetime"; I tried editing together the pieces from the DVD to the CD and from other (official) sources, but it was a holy mess.   

[425]

Huh, somehow I didn't know that! Those Awake singles are valuable! I have the single of The Silent Man because of Eve, but I don't have Lie. I'm not going to pay the $58 Amazon price, but I'll keep on the lookout.

[Setlist Scotty]

I would also love to see the rest of Once in a Livetime, although I'm not optimistic given that YtseJam never did it

Almost 100% positive it won't happen. There are bootlegs of the full show, and IIRC, at least a few of the tracks that got cut were due to lackluster performances. You're better off enjoying the 1998 fan club CD, which is the perfect companion for OiaL and fills in most of those blanks.

"Another Day" IS available; you have to search for it, but it's a b-side to the "Lie" CD single.

....or the Japanese version of L@tM.   

[425]

I would also love to see the rest of Once in a Livetime, although I'm not optimistic given that YtseJam never did it

Almost 100% positive it won't happen. There are bootlegs of the full show, and IIRC, at least a few of the tracks that got cut were due to lackluster performances. You're better off enjoying the 1998 fan club CD, which is the perfect companion for OiaL and fills in most of those blanks.

I certainly would enjoy the 1998 fanclub CD if I could get it for less than an arm and leg.

But yeah, that covers most of the bases, but I would like to get the full show, even if parts aren't so good (from JLB, I assume). And IIRC at least one song was chopped up on the CD release, so it would be nice to get that restored.

"Another Day" IS available; you have to search for it, but it's a b-side to the "Lie" CD single.

I'd forgotten about this! Those Awake singles had some valuable stuff. I managed to get The Silent Man a while back at a good price for Eve, so I'll keep an eye out for Lie, too.

[gzarruk]

Hopefully someday we get a LNF compilation that cleans up some of the missing pieces, including that ACoS. Maybe those songs from 2015 that gzarruk mentioned plus ACoS 2017. That would be about an hour.

But yeah, that covers most of the bases, but I would like to get the full show, even if parts aren't so good (from JLB, I assume). And IIRC at least one song was chopped up on the CD release, so it would be nice to get that restored.

Sadly, they did that with Scarred

"Another Day" IS available; you have to search for it, but it's a b-side to the "Lie" CD single.

....or the Japanese version of L@tM.   

Also, IIRC, the Lifting Shadows CD included both UAGM from the Marquee show + BMS from OIALT (same that appeared on the video release for 5YIALT).

[425]

But yeah, that covers most of the bases, but I would like to get the full show, even if parts aren't so good (from JLB, I assume). And IIRC at least one song was chopped up on the CD release, so it would be nice to get that restored.

Sadly, they did that with Scarred

That's what I thought it was, and I originally had that in the post, but then I started doubting myself and took it out (I knew it was not the full song, but I couldn't remember if they played the full song and it was chopped or if they didn't play the full song).

Scarred has really gotten the short end of the stick in live releases. OILT was the first live release of Scarred, and then MP skipped it on LSFNY, Budokan and Score because it had that release, but it wasn't even the full song. Finally we get the full song on CiM, but it's... not exactly the best JLB performance. Thinking about it that way, BTFW is practically worth the price of admission for Scarred alone.

[TAC]

Scarred has really gotten the short end of the stick in live releases. OILT was the first live release of Scarred, and then MP skipped it on LSFNY, Budokan and Score because it had that release, but it wasn't even the full song. Finally we get the full song on CiM, but it's... not exactly the best JLB performance. Thinking about it that way, BTFW is practically worth the price of admission for Scarred alone.

...and they still managed to gunk up the song on the DVD!! Is it the only song with stupid graphics over it??

[Setlist Scotty]

Scarred has really gotten the short end of the stick in live releases. OILT was the first live release of Scarred, and then MP skipped it on LSFNY, Budokan and Score because it had that release, but it wasn't even the full song. Finally we get the full song on CiM, but it's... not exactly the best JLB performance. Thinking about it that way, BTFW is practically worth the price of admission for Scarred alone.

Well, there is also the official bootleg of the Bucharest 2002 show:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gUvvpCeNcmk