Sherinian poking fun at Jordan?

[DarkLord_Lalinc]

Meanwhile, JR is a class act and would never pull any crap like that.

Never underestimate your heroes ability to disappoint you 

Nah, that's not JR.

[Bertielee]

Meanwhile, JR is a class act and would never pull any crap like that.

Never underestimate your heroes ability to disappoint you 

Nah, that's not JR.

[noxon]

I usually don't get involved in reviewers and their wisdom but the Norweigan review is so snobby that I was grossed out by the attitude. I think that reviewer needs to stop listening to Dream Theater- he obviously is over processing the shit out of it!

[gzarruk]

I usually don't get involved in reviewers and their wisdom but the Norweigan review is so snobby that I was grossed out by the attitude. I think that reviewer needs to stop listening to Dream Theater- he obviously is over processing the shit out of it!

Who's quote is this?

[noxon]

Jordan's quote on my review of black clouds

[SwedishGoose]

Jordan's quote on my review of black clouds

[gzarruk]

Jordan's quote on my review of black clouds

Would love to read that review 

[Mladen]

I remember the whole thing back when it went down, I believe. Or maybe a year or so later. You two sorted things out in the meantime, didn't you, Noxon?

[Tony From Long Island]

I dunno.  Seems like all in good fun to me.

[Herrick]

Jordan's quote on my review of black clouds

Would love to read that review 

Me too!

[CDrice]

I would imagine it's this review.

https://dreamtheater.club/blog/2009/04/26/dream-theater-black-clouds-and-silver-linings-ii/

I don't agree with everything, but I don't think it was that bad. I saw people ''over processing the shit out'' of the band's music more intensely than anything in this review 

[noxon]

My reason for bringing in the quote was just to counterpoint the "not JR" posts though. Yeah, we squared up after that. It's all good now. But it for sure wasn't fun when it happened.

[rumborak]

MP once told me to enjoy my piss break. Just sayin'

[Adami]

MP once told me to enjoy my piss break. Just sayin'

Well....I mean, wouldn't you want to enjoy it? Seems like a very polite thing to say.

[rumborak]

I did enjoy it. Did the piss break happen during Repentance? Maybe.

[Adami]

I did enjoy it. Did the piss break happen during Repentance? Maybe.

Well that's good. I definitely wouldn't have gone then (seeing as it's my favorite part of the suite), so we could have alternated spots.

Team work! You piss during Repentance, I take a 14 or whatever minute dump during Shattered Fortress.

[rumborak]

14 minute dump?! Gives "Shattered Fortress" a new meaning.

[DougMasters]

Im not sure if Derek was funnin' around or not. I don't know him or his sense of humor. But I do find that Jordan's cheese just isn't my chedder like Derek's is. Hopefully he was just pokin a bit.

Either way it's impossible to deny that Jordan is such a "composer" and an insane talent. Derek clearly fancies himself a rock and roller.

I'd still rather have Moore in the whole time than either. I miss that guy's vibe so much in that band.

[Sycsa]

I usually don't get involved in reviewers and their wisdom but the Norweigan review is so snobby that I was grossed out by the attitude. I think that reviewer needs to stop listening to Dream Theater- he obviously is over processing the shit out of it!

I would imagine it's this review.

https://dreamtheater.club/blog/2009/04/26/dream-theater-black-clouds-and-silver-linings-ii/

I don't agree with everything, but I don't think it was that bad. I saw people ''over processing the shit out'' of the band's music more intensely than anything in this review 

What the hell though? 4 out of 5? That long apologetic intro, then a 95% (extremely) positive review? How was this controversial? Is JR that thin-skinned that this bothered him? I find that really surprising. Do they expect no criticism and nothing but overly enthusiastic praise (much of this review seemed like that anyway) on a quid pro quo basis? He even called Jordan's unbearable ARoP solo QUOTE AWESOME UNQOUTE. I rest my case. What am I missing here?

[DT2003]

Not sure what would make anyone think Derek is doing this in good fun. He's an asshole and he has shown that an awful lot lately. If this crap doesn't change real soon I might reconsider supporting SoA.

[The Walrus]

Ya'll see this?

https://twitter.com/DerekSherinian/status/913910421219770369

As a keyboardist myself I think that tone stinks, at least from that quality of video, what I can hear. Don't play synth leads in the low register, please

[gzarruk]

Ya'll see this?

https://twitter.com/DerekSherinian/status/913910421219770369

As a keyboardist myself I think that tone stinks, at least from that quality of video, what I can hear. Don't play synth leads in the low register, please

#nofakery? 

[Evai]

I think it sounds quite cool But it seems he's become a grumpy old man

[Herrick]

Ya'll see this?

https://twitter.com/DerekSherinian/status/913910421219770369

As a keyboardist myself I think that tone stinks, at least from that quality of video, what I can hear. Don't play synth leads in the low register, please

#nofakery? 

I don't get it either. I don't know much about Ruddess' gadgets and stuff but it seems like he just uses them to get different sounds. It's not like he's an unskilled musician who can't play a "real" electronic instrument

[KevShmev]

Ya'll see this?

https://twitter.com/DerekSherinian/status/913910421219770369

As a keyboardist myself I think that tone stinks, at least from that quality of video, what I can hear. Don't play synth leads in the low register, please

I thought the tone was okay, but what he actually played was boring and uninteresting.

[Peace and Love]

Ya'll see this?

https://twitter.com/DerekSherinian/status/913910421219770369

As a keyboardist myself I think that tone stinks, at least from that quality of video, what I can hear. Don't play synth leads in the low register, please

#nofakery? 

I don't get it either. I don't know much about Ruddess' gadgets and stuff but it seems like he just uses them to get different sounds. It's not like he's an unskilled musician who can't play a "real" electronic instrument

It's bizarre. JR is the last person in the world who can be accused of "fakery" or using effects as a crutch to hide his lack of skill.

And this is entering the realm of personal taste of course, but I think his compositional and songwriting ability is miles ahead of DS. Even purely his soloing style - which he is sometimes criticised for - his miles better than DS, and there's nothing "fake" about these:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eyWQblwGnkE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=do7d7DNxMIw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1USh-arMBwE

[Madman Shepherd]

Ya'll see this?

https://twitter.com/DerekSherinian/status/913910421219770369

As a keyboardist myself I think that tone stinks, at least from that quality of video, what I can hear. Don't play synth leads in the low register, please

I thought the tone was okay, but what he actually played was boring and uninteresting.

Are you saying that playing a bunch of scales over and over is boring. 




Well, you're right. 

[DarkLord_Lalinc]

It doesn't matter how many times Derek teases JR with the #noiPads #NoCheeseWiz #KingOfKeys things, he still lost the big DT gig to him lol.

[gzarruk]

It doesn't matter how many times Derek teases JR with the #noiPads #NoCheeseWiz #KingOfKeys things, he still lost the big DT gig to him lol.

Exactly. While Derek's busy tweeting about being the king of keys, Jordan's busy actually BEING the king of keys in, probably, the biggest band of the genere 

[Skeever]

Ya'll see this?

https://twitter.com/DerekSherinian/status/913910421219770369

As a keyboardist myself I think that tone stinks, at least from that quality of video, what I can hear. Don't play synth leads in the low register, please

Sounds exactly like a JR patch to me.

[WilliamMunny]

Im not sure if Derek was funnin' around or not. I don't know him or his sense of humor. But I do find that Jordan's cheese just isn't my chedder like Derek's is. Hopefully he was just pokin a bit.

Either way it's impossible to deny that Jordan is such a "composer" and an insane talent. Derek clearly fancies himself a rock and roller.

I'd still rather have Moore in the whole time than either. I miss that guy's vibe so much in that band.

I know I keep harpin on this, but you really do need to check out OSI (I'd start with Blood); his vocals and the whole atmosphere of everything just works so well. 

As a huge Moore fan myself, I can honestly say that his 4 OSI albums (and the Chroma Key stuff as well) is simply amazing.  If you are a fan of Awake-era DT and haven't checked out those releases, I highly recommend it.

[Madman Shepherd]

Im not sure if Derek was funnin' around or not. I don't know him or his sense of humor. But I do find that Jordan's cheese just isn't my chedder like Derek's is. Hopefully he was just pokin a bit.

Either way it's impossible to deny that Jordan is such a "composer" and an insane talent. Derek clearly fancies himself a rock and roller.

I'd still rather have Moore in the whole time than either. I miss that guy's vibe so much in that band.

I know I keep harpin on this, but you really do need to check out OSI (I'd start with Blood); his vocals and the whole atmosphere of everything just works so well. 

As a huge Moore fan myself, I can honestly say that his 4 OSI albums (and the Chroma Key stuff as well) is simply amazing.  If you are a fan of Awake-era DT and haven't checked out those releases, I highly recommend it.

I'll second that. I think the last OSI and the first two Chroma Key are among the best releases of any DT related project. All Kevin Moore releases are worth a listen but especially those three.

[TAC]

OSI is nothing but noise to me. Noting about it I like.

[jammindude]

Im not sure if Derek was funnin' around or not. I don't know him or his sense of humor. But I do find that Jordan's cheese just isn't my chedder like Derek's is. Hopefully he was just pokin a bit.

Either way it's impossible to deny that Jordan is such a "composer" and an insane talent. Derek clearly fancies himself a rock and roller.

I'd still rather have Moore in the whole time than either. I miss that guy's vibe so much in that band.

I know I keep harpin on this, but you really do need to check out OSI (I'd start with Blood); his vocals and the whole atmosphere of everything just works so well. 

As a huge Moore fan myself, I can honestly say that his 4 OSI albums (and the Chroma Key stuff as well) is simply amazing.  If you are a fan of Awake-era DT and haven't checked out those releases, I highly recommend it.

I'll second that. I think the last OSI and the first two Chroma Key are among the best releases of any DT related project. All Kevin Moore releases are worth a listen but especially those three.

Agreed.  No contest.  It's just a shame that KevMo doesn't even seem to be that interested in making music.   It's almost a crime that he's the most musically talented of anyone in the DT camp, and so disinterested in actually making music.  I like the first two CK albums and all the OSI stuff better than I like half of DT's material.   And DT's mid tier stuff is still some of the best music ever written.

[gzarruk]

Im not sure if Derek was funnin' around or not. I don't know him or his sense of humor. But I do find that Jordan's cheese just isn't my chedder like Derek's is. Hopefully he was just pokin a bit.

Either way it's impossible to deny that Jordan is such a "composer" and an insane talent. Derek clearly fancies himself a rock and roller.

I'd still rather have Moore in the whole time than either. I miss that guy's vibe so much in that band.

I know I keep harpin on this, but you really do need to check out OSI (I'd start with Blood); his vocals and the whole atmosphere of everything just works so well. 

As a huge Moore fan myself, I can honestly say that his 4 OSI albums (and the Chroma Key stuff as well) is simply amazing.  If you are a fan of Awake-era DT and haven't checked out those releases, I highly recommend it.

I'll second that. I think the last OSI and the first two Chroma Key are among the best releases of any DT related project. All Kevin Moore releases are worth a listen but especially those three.

Agreed.  No contest.  It's just a shame that KevMo doesn't even seem to be that interested in making music.  It's almost a crime that he's the most musically talented of anyone in the DT camp, and so disinterested in actually making music.  I like the first two CK albums and all the OSI stuff better than I like half of DT's material.   And DT's mid tier stuff is still some of the best music ever written.

I don't think I agree with the bolded part. Petrucci, Rudess and Mangini are, imo, much more musically talented than Moore.