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Dream Theater: The Astonishing (now with moment of betrayal!)

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RMGadelha

Quote from: Systolic on January 18, 2016, 07:08:05 PM
Dont let your DT fanboyism blind you

This song is very very by-the-numbers and bland.

And I will completely disagree and I'll leave it at that.

jdprsaga

Quote from: Sir Walrus Cauliflower on January 18, 2016, 07:01:23 PM
Quote from: Systolic on January 18, 2016, 06:55:19 PM
Sounds just like ADTOE and DT12.

Musically, sonically, or both?

I disagree. Obviously there are similarities, but I get a completely different vibe from it. This is probably one of the more single-ish or normal songs too, so not representative of how the whole album will feel and sound.

James does sound a little overproduced, but I wonder if that could at all be related to the "voices" he's doing.

The beginning was definitely different,
during the verses, rift and drums were just like from ADToE and DT12.
Chorus and bridge were very opera rock which is different
Instrumental part was like from ADToE and DT12 until the myung unison at the end that where I jzzed
solo was really good
Ending reminded me of Sacrificed Sons Ending.. very epic and nice

Voices

The quality of the stream doesn't help to properly hear the dynamics, imo. The riffing sounds more like DT12 to me (which is good!). James vocals sounds pretty much like The Great Debate (which is good too!). But I hear nothing from ADTOE there...absolutely nothing.

Systolic

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wolven74

I've not heard the song, but since it's been heard by many, I have to wonder how long it'll take for a cover of it to be put up on Youtube? Tomorrow? :lol

Wubbagubba

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Sir Walrus Cauliflower

Quote from: jdprsaga on January 18, 2016, 07:09:53 PM
Quote from: Sir Walrus Cauliflower on January 18, 2016, 07:01:23 PM
Quote from: Systolic on January 18, 2016, 06:55:19 PM
Sounds just like ADTOE and DT12.

Musically, sonically, or both?

I disagree. Obviously there are similarities, but I get a completely different vibe from it. This is probably one of the more single-ish or normal songs too, so not representative of how the whole album will feel and sound.

James does sound a little overproduced, but I wonder if that could at all be related to the "voices" he's doing.

The beginning was definitely different,
during the verses, rift and drums were just like from ADToE and DT12.
Chorus and bridge were very opera rock which is different
Instrumental part was like from ADToE and DT12 until the myung unison at the end that where I jzzed
solo was really good
Ending reminded me of Sacrificed Sons Ending.. very epic and nice

Agreed. I thoroughly agree. I thought it was a great song overall.
Local authority on over-intellectualizing.

BlobVanDam

I reckon they chose this track to ease the minds of the fans who like the metal and shred.
Hopefully I enjoy the song more in the context of the whole act/album, but individually it's not a standout for me. It has some nice stuff going on though.

Lucien


chego_voice


goo-goo

Sweet track! Didn't like the section where JLB sings in a higher pitch but overall I'm pumped :metal

BelichickFan

I don't love the vocal melody, it's not bad but nothing to get excited about.  Love the instrumentation around it, though.

RMGadelha


Marion Crane

I'm sure it'll sit better in context, but yeah this really reminded me of something on DT12.

And I'm really getting sick of them pushing the beat and not letting melodies flow.

RMGadelha

Btw, a certain section of the lyrics is REALLY spoiler-heavy as JP mentioned, lol.

InFlames235

This just makes me more amped up. Of course the two songs they'd release are going to be the more straight forward DT sound that a lot of fans really like. I am just stoked that those straight forward DT songs have both been really fun. I don't find it uninspired at all.

Sir Walrus Cauliflower

Quote from: InFlames235 on January 18, 2016, 07:28:43 PM
This just makes me more amped up. Of course the two songs they'd release are going to be the more straight forward DT sound that a lot of fans really like. I am just stoked that those straight forward DT songs have both been really fun. I don't find it uninspired at all.

Yes. Thank you.
Local authority on over-intellectualizing.

Cool Chris

What always amazes me is that how, in like an hour, we will find youtube videos of people playing the song through on their guitar.
Maybe the grass is greener on the other side because you're not over there fucking it up.

jsbru

Quote from: jdprsaga on January 18, 2016, 06:53:48 PM
IMO It did sound kinda like from the last couple of albums... with an opera rock feel for sure.

It did kind of have that same sound from the last few albums, but IMO it was very well-done.  Given what noxon has said, though, this song may not be typical of what's on the albums.  That one was longer, heavier, and did have a lot of longer, proggy soloing.  I guess I'll have to wait to hear the softer stuff.

Prog Snob

Quote from: BlobVanDam on January 18, 2016, 07:17:45 PM
I reckon they chose this track to ease the minds of the fans who like the metal and shred.
Hopefully I enjoy the song more in the context of the whole act/album, but individually it's not a standout for me. It has some nice stuff going on though.

I agree completely. It's really good but not something that completely blew me away, though that might change in time. I liked TGOM more.

Laughing_man923

I just like it a lot, as simple as that sounds. I do hear a bit  of the same sound as the last 2 albums, but then it sounds like something else entirely. I really enjoyed this track a lot, no complaints from me.

Panar


Siddhartha

I have liked a lot the two songs that I have heard from the album.

And I am relieved, because I´m one of those who hated what they did with DT12.

If the rest of the album is that good I´m going to enjoy this one a lot.

EDIT: And this doesn´t sound at all like DT12.

RMGadelha

Quote from: Panar on January 18, 2016, 07:40:31 PM
OMG MYUNG WTf??!?!?

Yeah, he was basically "I will just play what JP played... WITH MY FINGERS."  :lol

pcs90

Just heard it. WOW, that was awesome! Some sections with vocals remind me a little of The Great Debate in style.
The intro theme, chorus, and instrumental are amazing. Sure, it's similar to the last 2 albums, but I love the last 2 albums. Plus they aren't going to release something really different early.

Panar

Quote from: RMGadelha on January 18, 2016, 07:42:16 PM
Quote from: Panar on January 18, 2016, 07:40:31 PM
OMG MYUNG WTf??!?!?

Yeah, he was basically "I will just play what JP played... WITH MY FINGERS."  :lol
Hahahaha exactly!!! Lol

adastra

Damn o.o I liked that!!! Cool song!, Nice solo from Petrucci, piano by Rudess <3, Myung unison Solo!
But I still don't like that snare... or drumming.

JMSE

Mangini wins in this track regardless of the snare sound. Bombastic as fuck.

About the song: HOLY MOTHER of GOD  :omg: :omg: :omg: :omg: :omg:

jsbru

The best parts are the intro and the first verse, plus the guitar solo.  Other than that, it's okay, and it sounds a lot like the last two albums.  This probably won't be my favorite song on the album.  I think TGOM is above it.

Randaran

I love the intro and the instrumental section, but the rest does little for me.

rab7

Quote from: RMGadelha on January 18, 2016, 07:27:43 PM
Btw, a certain section of the lyrics is REALLY spoiler-heavy as JP mentioned, lol.

Well, good thing I couldn't understand most of the lyrics

lovethedrake

The quality of the youtube link is basically unlistenably bad... please tell me that its just the quality of the link and not actually the mix...

BlobVanDam

Quote from: Prog Snob on January 18, 2016, 07:36:20 PM
Quote from: BlobVanDam on January 18, 2016, 07:17:45 PM
I reckon they chose this track to ease the minds of the fans who like the metal and shred.
Hopefully I enjoy the song more in the context of the whole act/album, but individually it's not a standout for me. It has some nice stuff going on though.

I agree completely. It's really good but not something that completely blew me away, though that might change in time. I liked TGOM more.

I still love TGOM. I've already listened to it more than anything from ADTOE and DT12.

jsbru

Quote from: lovethedrake on January 18, 2016, 08:09:49 PM
The quality of the youtube link is basically unlistenably bad... please tell me that its just the quality of the link and not actually the mix...

I'm sure it is.  It was recorded off a live Sirius radio show, first off.  Then YouTube mangles it up some more.  That's the last thing I'm worried about.

chego_voice

Quote from: RMGadelha on January 18, 2016, 07:27:43 PM
Btw, a certain section of the lyrics is REALLY spoiler-heavy as JP mentioned, lol.

which one?  :corn