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Mike Mangini and Portnoy--daisy picking and skipping through meadows?

Started by noahl, June 29, 2014, 08:40:58 PM

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Grizz

Yeah I have it too. Too bad it's trapped on the HDD I can't access at the moment.

hefdaddy42

Quote from: TheAtliator on June 29, 2014, 10:01:27 PM
Oh and about the thread- PERFECT discussion, and yea, how come it's okay to completely disrespect someone else's points only if their in the minority view? I guess rules really only do apply if the mods disagree with your view.. "No bashing" -my ass; "no disagreeing with Bosk and the majority of DTF" is where it's at. Here I am supporting a person's tactics who I thoroughly disagree with substantively, again.
Not sure how this got missed earlier.  But you are dead wrong in your assessment.  Plenty of people here disagree with my opinions, bosk1's opinions, and the rest of the mods.  But by all means, if you don't like how things are done here, then pretty please, with a cherry on top, get the fuck out.  Maybe it's not the place for you.
Quote from: BlobVanDam on December 11, 2014, 08:19:46 PMHef is right on all things. Except for when I disagree with him. In which case he's probably still right.

MoraWintersoul

This is obviously not true, as bosk threatened to strike me with his banhammer when I put Space Dye Vest at the top of my top 50 list. You don't want to know what gross things I had to do to get out of trouble, and I never transgressed again. Quit spreading lies, hef.

Dennis, there are reasons why some minority opinions are just minority opinions. While I do agree DTF can be harsh to people who have some unpopular opinions, not being able to phrase them respectfully over and over again is a big part of why it seems to be that way. And similarly, there are just some things that have been debated to death already, with unpleasant results, and this sort of OP really gets a rise out of people because we're either jaded of this discussion or we can't believe that after everything that happened someone still has that sort of a viewpoint.

I'm just saying there's a certain time and place, and a certain way to bring this sort of discussion into light again, and the OP didn't do that. While some people can't fit into DTF, this is by far the most welcoming and diverse and respectful internet community I've ever been a part of. Mods themselves have all sorts of different viewpoints, and I never felt disrespected around here.

vtgrad

#178
"Not sure how this got missed earlier.  But you are dead wrong in your assessment.  Plenty of people here disagree with my opinions, bosk1's opinions, and the rest of the mods.  But by all means, if you don't like how things are done here, then pretty please, with a cherry on top, get the fuck out.  Maybe it's not the place for you."

Hef... handling the situation with the blunted edge of the cat o' nine tails as always.  Soft as Angel Soft...

My opinion of the situation?.... it doesn't matter what my opinion is.  DT knows what really happened; MP knows what really happened... all of our opinions (whether good or bad regarding either party) are simply fun (in some instances) speculations.  There's nothing wrong with speculating; as long as the speculator remembers that he/she is speculating.

Sir GuitarCozmo

Quote from: hefdaddy42 on July 02, 2014, 10:28:34 AM
Quote from: TheAtliator on June 29, 2014, 10:01:27 PM
Oh and about the thread- PERFECT discussion, and yea, how come it's okay to completely disrespect someone else's points only if their in the minority view? I guess rules really only do apply if the mods disagree with your view.. "No bashing" -my ass; "no disagreeing with Bosk and the majority of DTF" is where it's at. Here I am supporting a person's tactics who I thoroughly disagree with substantively, again.
Not sure how this got missed earlier.  But you are dead wrong in your assessment.  Plenty of people here disagree with my opinions, bosk1's opinions, and the rest of the mods.  But by all means, if you don't like how things are done here, then pretty please, with a cherry on top, get the fuck out.  Maybe it's not the place for you.

Welcome to DTF, may I take your order please?

Yeah, I'll take one troll thread, hold the self-awareness, with an extra large order of smackdown.

Would you like a Vlasto shake with that?

NO.

kirksnosehair


DarkLord_Lalinc


ariich

Quote from: MoraWintersoul on July 02, 2014, 10:45:27 AM
While I do agree DTF can be harsh to people who have some unpopular opinions, not being able to phrase them respectfully over and over again is a big part of why it seems to be that way.
I would say it's mostly that, in fact. A lot of my opinions on DT go against the majority, and I'm sure you're the same Milena, but we're able to express them in respectful ways. Frankly, I would say DTF comes down much harder on people who act like jerks even when their opinion is the majority one.

NOW EVERYONE JUST SHUT UP AND LET'S MAKE DAISY CHAINS :heart

EDIT: Oh yeah and I changed the terrible misleading thread title.

Quote from: Buddyhunter1 on May 10, 2023, 05:59:19 PMAriich is a freak, or somehow has more hours in the day than everyone else.
Quote from: TAC on December 21, 2023, 06:05:15 AMI be am boner inducing.

Tim van Duijn

Oh my god people. Just read Lifting Shadows. There is so much more in that book abuot this case than what we've been told.

Kotowboy

My take :

MM acts like he deserves his place in DT and is loving every minute of it & is nothing but grateful.

MP towards the end seemed like he thought he was the band.

King Postwhore

Quote from: ariich on July 02, 2014, 02:23:05 PM
Quote from: MoraWintersoul on July 02, 2014, 10:45:27 AM
While I do agree DTF can be harsh to people who have some unpopular opinions, not being able to phrase them respectfully over and over again is a big part of why it seems to be that way.
I would say it's mostly that, in fact. A lot of my opinions on DT go against the majority, and I'm sure you're the same Milena, but we're able to express them in respectful ways. Frankly, I would say DTF comes down much harder on people who act like jerks even when their opinion is the majority one.

NOW EVERYONE JUST SHUT UP AND LET'S MAKE DAISY CHAINS :heart

EDIT: Oh yeah and I changed the terrible misleading thread title.

Rich, that thread title was full of win.  It needed to be highlighted.
"I don't like country music, but I don't mean to denigrate those who do. And for the people who like country music, denigrate means 'put down'." - Bon Newhart.

Madman Shepherd

Quote from: hefdaddy42 on July 02, 2014, 10:28:34 AM
Quote from: TheAtliator on June 29, 2014, 10:01:27 PM
Oh and about the thread- PERFECT discussion, and yea, how come it's okay to completely disrespect someone else's points only if their in the minority view? I guess rules really only do apply if the mods disagree with your view.. "No bashing" -my ass; "no disagreeing with Bosk and the majority of DTF" is where it's at. Here I am supporting a person's tactics who I thoroughly disagree with substantively, again.
Not sure how this got missed earlier.  But you are dead wrong in your assessment.  Plenty of people here disagree with my opinions, bosk1's opinions, and the rest of the mods.  But by all means, if you don't like how things are done here, then pretty please, with a cherry on top, get the fuck out.  Maybe it's not the place for you.

:rollin :metal :hefdaddy

Tick


Tick

Mike Mangini seems like the kindest humblest man going. Seriously.
He works his ass off to be great. Great enough to be considered to replace a guy like Mike Portnoy, and the competition he faced as well.
He auditioned for a legendary prog metal band. He was so ecstatic about being hired he was over the top emotionally.
This guy is great and I'm so glad he is in the band. I don't think he spends one waking minute of any day of any week thinking about Mike Portnoy, good, bad, or otherwise.

TheAtliator

Yea, well sorry guys, I'm not going anywhere so you're stuck with me, I freakin' love this forum  :P haha

bosk1

Four things:

1.  The thread title is still a hot mess, and I will fix it momentarily.

2.  Yes, this thread exhibits some great trolling.  Some good points, but expressed in a way that is obviously designed solely to stir up controversy and not for the purpose of having intelligent discussion.  The thread came within an inch of being locked.  Then this happened:
Quote from: rumborak on June 30, 2014, 10:19:34 AM
Hooooly shit, Hellholming!!
Best thread role reversal in the history of the Internet.

3.  This is perhaps the best thing I have read in a long, long time:
Quote from: Madman Shepherd on July 01, 2014, 05:29:14 PM
Quote from: MoraWintersoul on July 01, 2014, 05:02:44 PM
Quote from: rumborak on July 01, 2014, 04:54:09 PM
I have always taken these "we're friends" statements by musicians with a big grain of salt. MP and Neal are clearly actual friends. But MP and MM,  they will probably have met at the occasional drumming event. I have no doubt they were on very positive terms with each other, but it strikes me more like the kind of "friendship" you have with a coworker whose work you respect.
Eh, it's obvious they aren't scheduling sessions of daisy picking and skipping through the meadows

Do people actually do that?  I mean, I'm not judging.  If you or people you know do that, its cool. 

4.  What hef said:
Quote from: hefdaddy42 on July 02, 2014, 10:28:34 AM
Quote from: TheAtliator on June 29, 2014, 10:01:27 PM
Oh and about the thread- PERFECT discussion, and yea, how come it's okay to completely disrespect someone else's points only if their in the minority view? I guess rules really only do apply if the mods disagree with your view.. "No bashing" -my ass; "no disagreeing with Bosk and the majority of DTF" is where it's at. Here I am supporting a person's tactics who I thoroughly disagree with substantively, again.
Not sure how this got missed earlier.  But you are dead wrong in your assessment.  Plenty of people here disagree with my opinions, bosk1's opinions, and the rest of the mods.  But by all means, if you don't like how things are done here, then pretty please, with a cherry on top, get the fuck out.  Maybe it's not the place for you.
You've been warned in other threads.  Consider this an official warning.  Knock it off, or you will find that you are quite mistaken about us being "stuck" with you.

?


TheAtliator

I meant stuck with me as in a reply to "if you don't like how things are done here, then pretty please, with a cherry on top, get the fuck out."

As in, if you're asking nicely, no I won't leave you all alone because I like it here whether everyone hates me or not  :lol

No, really though I'll be good, that was the last time you'll hear from me in this way  :biggrin:  :angel:

and-
Quote from: ? on July 03, 2014, 08:36:01 PM
The new thread title: :clap: :hefdaddy

King Postwhore

"I don't like country music, but I don't mean to denigrate those who do. And for the people who like country music, denigrate means 'put down'." - Bon Newhart.

TempusVox


hefdaddy42

Quote from: BlobVanDam on December 11, 2014, 08:19:46 PMHef is right on all things. Except for when I disagree with him. In which case he's probably still right.

MoraWintersoul

Quote from: bosk1 on July 03, 2014, 08:15:56 PM
1.  The thread title is still a hot mess, and I will fix it momentarily.
:heart

Grizz

I think that, while the original thread title was complete shit, changing it so that the thread is not taken the least bit serious is only supporting the anti-DTF points made by some members of this thread.

rumborak

Two posts into this thread it already was a parody thread. The title now reflects that.

hefdaddy42

Quote from: Grizz on July 04, 2014, 01:23:16 PM
I think that, while the original thread title was complete shit, changing it so that the thread is not taken the least bit serious is only supporting the anti-DTF points made by some members of this thread.
Only if you have no sense of humor.  Besides, the current title is more truthful than the original.
Quote from: BlobVanDam on December 11, 2014, 08:19:46 PMHef is right on all things. Except for when I disagree with him. In which case he's probably still right.

King Postwhore

This anti DTF is always the fringe minority in life.  They always make the biggest noise. So when we do see bat shit crazy posts it's fair game.  We first try to point out the facts that 90% know the true timeline on the events yet others seem to want to make things up out of thin air like the OP in this thread.

when they fight the facts we pounce, not because it's the opposite of what we know, it's the antic that go with their though process.  Bat shit crazy deserve a Hef GTFO and bitchslap.
"I don't like country music, but I don't mean to denigrate those who do. And for the people who like country music, denigrate means 'put down'." - Bon Newhart.

Tick


MoraWintersoul


Zydar


Tom Bombadil


Zydar


Tick


TAC

Quote from: wkiml on June 08, 2012, 09:06:35 AMwould have thought the same thing but seeing the OP was TAC i immediately thought Maiden or DT related
Quote from: Stadler on February 08, 2025, 12:49:43 PMI wouldn't argue this.

King Postwhore

Quote from: Zydar on July 08, 2014, 12:57:16 PM
The hills are alive with the sound of Mangini.



:lol :metal


The hills are alive with the sound of paradiddles........
"I don't like country music, but I don't mean to denigrate those who do. And for the people who like country music, denigrate means 'put down'." - Bon Newhart.

Kotowboy