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Grammy.com Trending Music - Keep Up the Votes for DTs Lead!

Started by Aythesryche, September 12, 2013, 05:35:38 PM

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Daso

Quote from: jonnybaxy on September 13, 2013, 04:49:58 PM
Quote from: bosk1 on September 13, 2013, 04:35:24 PM
Quote from: jonnybaxy on September 13, 2013, 04:25:43 PMAlso I speak for myself mainly, but I don't want beiber/MC/KP fans as part of our fandom... pop + DT doesn't mix, screw them unloyal god awful fans. They only like looks not music, The MC video is porn, the KP video is for her looks, I can't even remember what else was on there but you get the idea....

Don't be so rude.  Honestly, believe what you want about the music, but the vast majority of KP and MC fan posts are more respectful than what you just posted.  While Miley's video is just awful, the song actually isn't bad (I personally don't care for it, but I can see why those who enjoy pop music more than I do would like it).  And there is plenty to like about the KP song and the video, whether you can subjectively identify with it or not.  Don't be such a snob just because you happen to dislike a particular style.

*long rant about pop*


I must say I agree to some extent about what you say, since some pop is pretty much music structured to sound catchy, while having pretty much no depth to it, and having lyrics that anyone could be identified with, only because it is what sells. But at the same time, a lot of genres function the same way. For example, a lot of metal is pretty much snobbery about being violent and aggresive and so on, which is (to my point of view if I followed yours) done for teenagers to feel identified with it whenever the case is that they attempt at giving a tough image of who they are and so on. In the end, you could look at it on different ways. For instance, all music could be done to be a product of an industry. On the other hand, all music could be done as a way for the artist to express himself/herself freely. In the middle there is that there are artist that belong to either of the mentioned sides, but there's no real way for you to demonstrate which side they belong to unless the artists give any testimony themselves.

theseoafs

Quote from: jonnybaxy on September 13, 2013, 05:10:44 PM
why have some of you members who've been here a while and should know better and be more respectful, always got tome come in with some sarcastic comment that doesn't help anyone? Be productive.

To be fair, saying that people who like pop music are "unloyal" and "godawful" and that they only care about looks isn't that respectful either

jonnybaxy

A) I said I could have worded it better and apologised for that
B) It wasn't some sarcastic useless comment

jonnybaxy

Anyway I'll cut to the chase so this isn't going on forever;

What i'm saying is why should someone who works their arse off doing what they enjoy with a wide knowledge of music who has spent their whole life dedicated to it, be undercut by the production of the industry who has their songs written for them? 99% of pop is this way.

TL

Reading a few of the comments on the Grammy page;
I know that the people posting "Roaaaaarrrr!" and variations on it are voting for Katy Perry, but all I can think of every time I see it is "Man, there are a lot of people here who love A Nightmare To Remember!".  :lol

DarkLord_Lalinc

Sorry about that, it's just that johnnybaxy exposed his opinions in a way I consider to be somewhat immature. I think it's not good to say that a certain style of music is pure crap. Pop music, enjoy it or not, has its own strengths just like every other type of music out there. Before any "PROG IS TEH BEST THEM TECHNICAL!", I think it's very uncalled for saying 99% percent of pop music videos feature naked women and that's the reason they're hits. I like pop music, and I enjoy several things that pop artists put out there and that's my point of view, because I don't think it's fair that DT fans (or prog fans, for that matter) say their musical taste is better than other persons'. That's my opinion as baxy has his own, but either way sorry if I ofended you, pal.


jonnybaxy

What i'm sure is the current biggest hit, I'll just leave it here with no comment but bare in mind that there is a version of this with the women only in underwear. I just don't see how anyone can listen/watch this and not find it annoying. I do realise i'm picking one out and it would seem that i'm judging the community on this one song, but i'm not.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yyDUC1LUXSU

chrisbDTM

LOL U POP STARS ONLY PLAY IN 4/4


N00BS

Quote from: jonnybaxy on September 13, 2013, 05:34:16 PM
What i'm sure is the current biggest hit, I'll just leave it here with no comment but bare in mind that there is a version of this with the women only in underwear. I just don't see how anyone can listen/watch this and not find it annoying. I do realise i'm picking one out and it would seem that i'm judging the community on this one song, but i'm not.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yyDUC1LUXSU

it has 171 million views. people like it, that's how opinions work.

theseoafs

Sure, Blurred Lines is awful, but that doesn't invalidate all of pop music.  Want your mind blown?  Pop on Justin Timberlake's new album.

Anyway, this is suuuuuuper off-topic.

bosk1

Okay, well, let's keep focused on the songs that are actually in the poll please.  That is at least somewhat related to the topic.

Aythesryche

I was wondering why the Apple thing was even listed then I remembered the old expression about song and dance and how it means something that's blown way out of proportion/making a big deal out of something small. So, Grammy.com is suggesting Apple is giving us all a song and dance with their latest phones.

lonestar

Could someone shop the wrecking ball in Miley's video with the majesty logo a la Octavarium.....

Dark Castle

It was sorta cool though how Deafheaven's new album is shown on the iPhones during the conference  :metal

theseoafs

Anyway, the Katy Perry song is pretty damn catchy, and I normally don't like her music.  The video itself is pretty awesome from a production standpoint, and Katy isn't over-sexualized or anything.  I don't think you could rightfully accuse that video of selling sex to youngsters.

I think we can all agree, though, that there's no excuse for this thing that Miley Cyrus has turned into.  Although she certainly is "trending".

Quote from: lonestar on September 13, 2013, 05:44:24 PM
Could someone shop the wrecking ball in Miley's video with the majesty logo a la Octavarium.....

:lol :lol :lol :lol

bosk1

Quote from: theseoafs on September 13, 2013, 05:46:47 PM
Anyway, the Katy Perry song is pretty damn catchy, and I normally don't like her music.  The video itself is pretty awesome from a production standpoint, and Katy isn't over-sexualized or anything.  I don't think you could rightfully accuse that video of selling sex to youngsters.

I think we can all agree, though, that there's no excuse for this thing that Miley Cyrus has turned into.  Although she certainly is "trending".

Agreed with all that.

Quote from: lonestar on September 13, 2013, 05:44:24 PM
Could someone shop the wrecking ball in Miley's video with the majesty logo a la Octavarium.....

And that.  :lol


bosk1

That's terrible.  I mean, it's good work.  But it's an abomination at the same time.  :lol

Dark Castle

BrB, fixing my Octavarium display for my ipod right now.

lonestar


SystematicThought

In defense of Blurred Lines. I find it irresistibly catchy.

Watch, the video for say The Looking Glass features scantily clad women with JR saying over and over "You know you want it." "What rhymes with hug me?"

Jaffa

On the subject of Katy Perry, I would like to point out that Roar was massively popular before she even released the music video.  When she premiered the song, it was in the form of this lyrics video.  That video currently has 41 million views, and it doesn't even show her face, much less any nudity.  So I think we can safely rule out the idea that people only like Katy Perry for her looks.

theseoafs

Although she is very good looking.

Very, very good looking.

Shadow2222

Quote from: SystematicThought on September 13, 2013, 06:20:12 PM
In defense of Blurred Lines. I find it irresistibly catchy.

Watch, the video for say The Looking Glass features scantily clad women with JR saying over and over "You know you want it." "What rhymes with hug me?"

And the girls will say, "Can I see your dirty organ?"

EDIT: Holy shit, I just scrolled up and saw the Wrecking Octaball. Wow, that's frickin' hilarious.

Anguyen92

I have to say about this whole premonition of pop music.  Sometimes, not all pop music is really full of terrible lyrics and smut, sometimes, it can be A. catchy and B. Enjoyable.  I never thought I would applaud any pop musicians, at all, but there are, at least, a couple out there (Justin Timberlake and Daft Punk) that is A. very successful and B. makes decent music.  It may not be the music I like, but it is at least music that has substances rather than short-term bang and flash.

That said, DT gotta take this down and not let what's her face (I didn't mean Perry, she's all right), win this thing.

Chino


theseoafs


adamack

Quote from: Flacracker on September 13, 2013, 05:55:49 PM
From Reddit:


I'm DYING. This almost seems like it flew under the radar. This has got to be the greatest/funniest forum thread Photoshop pic I've seen yet!! Not to mention it's a damn fine Photoshop job in itself.

Much credit, Reddit.
("Yeah it rhymes, wanndafightaboutit?")

Bertielee

Quote from: bosk1 on September 13, 2013, 04:35:24 PM
Quote from: jonnybaxy on September 13, 2013, 04:25:43 PMAlso I speak for myself mainly, but I don't want beiber/MC/KP fans as part of our fandom... pop + DT doesn't mix, screw them unloyal god awful fans. They only like looks not music, The MC video is porn, the KP video is for her looks, I can't even remember what else was on there but you get the idea....

Don't be so rude.  Honestly, believe what you want about the music, but the vast majority of KP and MC fan posts are more respectful than what you just posted.  While Miley's video is just awful, the song actually isn't bad (I personally don't care for it, but I can see why those who enjoy pop music more than I do would like it).  And there is plenty to like about the KP song and the video, whether you can subjectively identify with it or not.  The DT love is obviously appreciated, but don't be such a snob just because you happen to dislike a particular style.

Hey, I happen to like KP a lot or even Jesse J for that matter and I've been a DT fan since 1993. Does that make me a bad DT fan? I don't think so. There is good music everywhere, in virtually every genre. Call me a melomaniac.

B.Lee

Sycsa

jonnybaxy has a few good points, but it was so predictable that the forum would jump him. "Yap, yap, you cannot bash shitty music because music is entirely subjective and all opinions are created equal. Broaden your horizons you narrow minded sap." This is getting old. I guess there are no bad movies, books, visual arts either because somebody is bound to find them good. Every single element of that Katy Perry song felt like the same old crap I've heard a thousand times before. Here's a quote you might enjoy:
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When the judgement of history comes in 3-400 years, it's not the simplistic, shallow and worthless crap hyped by today's musically illiterate mainstream music critics that will be praised and remembered from the 20th century, but classic '70s progressive rock.
- Tommy Schönenberg, 2008, vintageprog.com

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Bolsters

Who'd have thought we'd get so much enjoyment out of fucking Miley Cyrus? :justjen
Bolsters™

Zydar


nikatapi

Quote from: Bolsters on September 14, 2013, 12:42:50 AM
Who'd have thought we'd get so much enjoyment out of fucking Miley Cyrus? :justjen

Well, fucking is almost always fun, even better when the girl is hot.