Who wants to listen to Metropolis Pt. III?

[aprilethereal]

I wanted to write some lengthy reply, but this sums it up perfectly:

I adore SFAM like almost no other album, but please, let this die. The whole point of Metropolis pt 2 was to end it, and it could not have done so more perfectly. Done. Over.

[jonnybaxy]

He's hitting it at the same tempo as the song i'm listening to   

[Jaq]

I have a question. People keep talking about how they want to hear more of the story, but was the story really that good? I mean, I thought most people liked it for the music. Compared to its fellow concept albums (Mindcrime, The Wall, etc) the story was pretty average IMO.

I listened to SFAM last night, inspired by this thread, and was about halfway through it when I thought "how the hell did we go from a song that was basically about cities to the story of a guy having past life memories of a woman who was torn between a senator and his gambler brother?" 

There's a lot of reasons why SFAM is my favorite DT album, but none of them are the story.

[hefdaddy42]

Like it has been said, the story is wrapped up, over. It would be completely unnecessary, it sounds like people want it just for the sake of a continuation. It's like when successful movies make sequels that the franchise could do completely without.

But sure I would listen to it.

The difference is that this is music and not cinema though. People don't listen to music for the story (although I guess some people do care about the lyrics), people listen for the actual music. So I think the majority of people who want Metropolis Pt 3, aren't saying they desperately want a continuation of the story, I think they just want another album sharing the same musical themes, and that's all that it would need to be, I think.

SFAM was an album with musical themes extrapolated from one song.  An entire album.  Another full album sharing those themes would artistically uninteresting, because where else do you go without just copying yourself?

The only way I could see this happening is if something awful happens to the band and they try this to attempt to resurrect something.  Unless and until something like that happens, this is an idea that should just die.

[GasparXR]

There is a binary theme to Metropis 1 and 2, and therfore, DT intended to only have two parts.  A third part would go against the theme.  Consider the "theme of two's" found in the Metropolis suite:  M2 is a TWO act play, twin brothers, the duality of the Miracle and the Sleeper, etc.  Both parts serve as a binary counterpart to the other.

Consider further the thematic sequences of how both stories unfold.  It is clear that the themes are a tandem, but set up as mirror opposites: Metropolis 1 progresses with the following sequence: First=Death, Second=Deceit, Third=Love.  Metropolis Part 2 contrasts this by telling a story in the diametric opposite:  First=Love, Second=Deceit, Third=Death. 

If you ponder the above you will see that the concept of Metropolis was always intended as a couplet, and thus should remain cemented in two parts.

[Mosh]

There is a binary theme to Metropis 1 and 2, and therfore, DT intended to only have two parts.  A third part would go against the theme.  Consider the "theme of two's" found in the Metropolis suite:  M2 is a TWO act play, twin brothers, the duality of the Miracle and the Sleeper, etc.  Both parts serve as a binary counterpart to the other.

Consider further the thematic sequences of how both stories unfold.  It is clear that the themes are a tandem, but set up as mirror opposites: Metropolis 1 progresses with the following sequence: First=Death, Second=Deceit, Third=Love.  Metropolis Part 2 contrasts this by telling a story in the diametric opposite:  First=Love, Second=Deceit, Third=Death. 

If you ponder the above you will see that the concept of Metropolis was always intended as a couplet, and thus should remain cemented in two parts.

Yea, that's pretty much the most interesting thing I've read on this forum in awhile. Didn't think of it that way.

[Ytsejammin]

I went with Me out of sheer fanboy curiosity. BTW , the Starbucks cover kicked my ass.

[Kotowboy]

haha.  

[Kotowboy]

Every time DT release a new album - a few people make a massive song and Dance about Metropolis III.


Sadly - these people will never be placated.


For them - it is the song and dance of eternity. 

[SnakeEyes]

I'd rather see DT do their own version of Operation Mindcrime II. 

[JayOctavarium]

Change "Me" to "You" in the voting options  and that'll get my vote

[Shadow Ninja 2.0]

So you want "You" not "Me"?

[JayOctavarium]

That's what it's all about....

[Ħ]

SFAM was great, no denying that. Metropolis Pt III is unnecessary, but if DT chose to give it a shot, I'm sure they could make it pretty good. I've never had any complaints about DT referencing older melodies in their newer songs. Even The Shattered Fortress was pretty good. Though there's no reason to make Pt III, I don't see a good reason not to, either.

[RaiseTheKnife]

So you want "You" not "Me"?

  YES!!!

[ariich]

To be honest, SFAM isn't one of my favourites at all (ranks #10 out of 11) so the chances are that I would prefer a part 3 if they ever made one. But that's not the point - the issue is that, unless they had a really good idea for how to do it, then it would be forced and ultimately feel a bit awkward and disappoint a lot of fans.

[wasteland]

Yes, you have a point Rich. I think that should the band ever decide to follow Part 2, it should be in the form of a long EP song like ACOS, and like ACOS I would like it to be the result of many years of work and polishing, a trans-album effort carried over many A-T cycles.

An advantage of this approach would be relieving them from the weight of having to work on the song within the constraints of the album format, but it would also give them all the time they need to understand how serious they are to go down the Part 3 alley

[hefdaddy42]

Yes, you have a point Rich. I think that should the band ever decide to follow Part 2, it should be in the form of a long EP song like ACOS, and like ACOS I would like it to be the result of many years of work and polishing, a trans-album effort carried over many A-T cycles.

An advantage of this approach would be relieving them from the weight of having to work on the song within the constraints of the album format, but it would also give them all the time they need to understand how serious they are to go down the Part 3 alley

But under their current setup, I can't imagine them ever, ever, ever crafting another song that way.

[?]

^And that's why Metropolis Pt. 3 wouldn't be a good idea even if it was just a song.

[Jaffa]

Me.  Sort of.  It's not something I'm actively hoping that they'll do, but the idea of it is intriguing to me.

[Kotowboy]

Still staggered that this is even an issue.

You may as well ask : Do we want Falling Into Infinity II or 12 Degrees of Inner Turbulence or Train Of Thought II : The Next Carriage.

OR Octavarium Part 2 : Starting Again ( Where We Began ) ( Again ).

It's a ludicrous Idea. Full Stop.

[johncal]

Still staggered that this is even an issue.

You may as well ask : Do we want Falling Into Infinity II or 12 Degrees of Inner Turbulence or Train Of Thought II : The Next Carriage.

OR Octavarium Part 2 : Starting Again ( Where We Began ) ( Again ).

It's a ludicrous Idea. Full Stop.

Wow, I thought it started with 1 Degree of inner Turbulence, and that they were up to their 12th album on that theme. I guess I'll never get my 13 Degrees album now

[ibosmiley]

Metropolis Part III...   No.  Just no.

[Rattlehead]

I'd listen to it if they made it, but the idea is not very appealing to me.

[LCArenas]

I think my problem with this is that it makes me afraid that it might not be as good as SFAM and people will always measure against it even if it's good, almost always favouring SFAM over it no matter how good Metropolis III would be.

I think it's one of the things it's better left alone.


Now that would be my opinion about making an album, if they made a song instead... Maybe still no

[BlobVanDam]

Metropolis Pt III - Not even once^TM

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[TheGreatPretender]

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[CodyWanKenobi]

Train Of Thought II : Platform 9 3/4.

Fixed! 

[serrano]

Actually there's a hint in the last sung line in finally free when metropolis part 3 will be released: someday SOON 

But really, I hope, if they ever write another concept album, it would be a new concept at least lyrically.

[aprilethereal]

Actually there's a hint in the last sung line in finally free when metropolis part 3 will be released: someday SOON 

[Ħ]

Still staggered that this is even an issue.

You may as well ask : Do we want Falling Into Infinity II or 12 Degrees of Inner Turbulence or Train Of Thought II : The Next Carriage.

OR Octavarium Part 2 : Starting Again ( Where We Began ) ( Again ).

It's a ludicrous Idea. Full Stop.

It's a bit different, though, because there's an underlying story and concept that ties it together. Plus, you have the precedent of having the Metropolis series already established.

[ariich]

OR Octavarium Part 2 : Starting Again ( Where We Began ) ( Again ).

[tiagodon]

I don't know if Metallica got inspired by DT, but the same happened to Unforgiven. We have parts I, II and III, and it only went downhill...

[theseoafs]

Nah, Unforgiven 3 is rad.  But the 3 Unforgiven songs are, what, 20 minutes in length total?  DT doesn't need an 80-minute sequel to an 80-minute album whose story has been completed.

[BlobVanDam]

I don't know if Metallica got inspired by DT, but the same happened to Unforgiven. We have parts I, II and III, and it only went downhill...

I prefer Pt 2 to 1, but 3 was an unnecessary song that is only Unforgiven in name, and nowhere near as good as the first two. It was forced, and a Metropolis Pt 3 would likely feel the same way.