Who wants to listen to Metropolis Pt. III?

[Dark Castle]

I actually rank The Unforgiven's: III, I, II

[MoraWintersoul]

I actually rank The Unforgiven's: III, I, II

Me too!

[The Stray Seed]

Not me (I'm answering to the thread and not the OT).

[Kotowboy]

I don't know if Metallica got inspired by DT, but the same happened to Unforgiven. We have parts I, II and III, and it only went downhill...

I prefer Pt 2 to 1, but 3 was an unnecessary song that is only Unforgiven in name, and nowhere near as good as the first two. It was forced, and a Metropolis Pt 3 would likely feel the same way.

Anyway - Unforgiven II came out before Scenes From A Memory.

[tiagodon]

I don't know if Metallica got inspired by DT, but the same happened to Unforgiven. We have parts I, II and III, and it only went downhill...

I prefer Pt 2 to 1, but 3 was an unnecessary song that is only Unforgiven in name, and nowhere near as good as the first two. It was forced, and a Metropolis Pt 3 would likely feel the same way.

Anyway - Unforgiven II came out before Scenes From A Memory.

So DT was inspired by Metallica! 

[Kotowboy]

Metallica didn't make Unforgiven II - The Album.






Although they did make a few unforgiveable albums

[tiagodon]

No, no... Wait!! Meat Loaf started it all!!!
Bat out of Hell II (the album) came out in 1993!
And there's a part III as well!

[Kotowboy]

That's one of those instances where people only buy your albums if they're named after your most popular.

Same thing with Mike Oldfield and Tubular Bells.

Latest CD not selling ? Simply call the next one Tubular Bells Part Whatever !! $$$$$ !!

OMG it's teh follow up to teh toobalar bellz - I must buy eet !

[tiagodon]

True!
In Meat Loaf's case, it was a marketing strategy for a grand return. That's how I think DT should use the Metropolis franchise. Hope they don't need it.

[Jaffa]

I don't know if Metallica got inspired by DT, but the same happened to Unforgiven. We have parts I, II and III, and it only went downhill...

I prefer Pt 2 to 1, but 3 was an unnecessary song that is only Unforgiven in name, and nowhere near as good as the first two. It was forced, and a Metropolis Pt 3 would likely feel the same way.

I sort of agree with this.  I mean, I like 3 - some days I even love it - but it's so different from the other two.  It'd be like if Dream Theater did make a Metropolis part 3, but it had nothing to do with any of the musical or lyrical themes of SFAM, and they only called it Metropolis because it had the word 'metropolitan' somewhere in the lyrics. 

[ZirconBlue]

Like it has been said, the story is wrapped up, over.

Um, it's a story about reincarnation.  Those usually involve multiple iterations.

[Kotowboy]

Like it has been said, the story is wrapped up, over.

Um, it's a story about reincarnation.  Those usually involve multiple iterations.

[ZirconBlue]

Like it has been said, the story is wrapped up, over.

Um, it's a story about reincarnation.  Those usually involve multiple iterations.

What?  Are you not familiar with the long history of reincarnation themes in literature/religion/mythology?  One of the most common flavors of reincarnation is that reincarnated souls keep being drawn to each other to correct wrongs done in previous lives.  In SFaM, the cycle of violence has continued, rather than being repaired, so we would expect Nicholas' soul to be reincarnated yet again.


I'm not saying we need a Met 3, but to say "the story is wrapped up, over" at the end of a reincarnation story is kind of silly.

[Metropolis1928]

I voted "not me".

I liked Tubular Bells III and, to some extent, Unforgiven III but...  I'm not so sure about a Metropolis pt. III.

At this point, and with the current situation, I don't see the band going in the direction of doing that. I think they all know that if they did that, people would say they're "selling out". I would still buy the album (even if it's a full album or only a song), but I don't know... I prefer if they release new material that has nothing to do with previous records.

6 Degrees is one of my favourite albums and has nothing to do (not even sonically) with previous albums. I'd like them to experiment and a Metropolis pt. III wouldn't be that (most likely).

[TheGreatPretender]

I don't really think it's a matter of selling out at all. I'm pretty sure that the vast majority of DT fans to who the title "Metropolis" means enough to warrant a purchase, already end up purchasing all the DT albums, because they're devoted fans of the band. If someone was a huge fan of DT and then stopped listening to them, I doubt that Metropolis Pt. 3 is going to make them say, "I gotta hear this!"

[Metropolis1928]

I don't really think it's a matter of selling out at all. I'm pretty sure that the vast majority of DT fans to who the title "Metropolis" means enough to warrant a purchase, already end up purchasing all the DT albums, because they're devoted fans of the band. If someone was a huge fan of DT and then stopped listening to them, I doubt that Metropolis Pt. 3 is going to make them say, "I gotta hear this!"

Hmmm, that could be true. People that would appeal to that title -or who would know about what Metropolis is about at all- would probably buy the album anyway.

What I was trying to say is that, maybe the band would be concerned about the image that releasing a "Metropolis pt. 3" would give them, maybe not in the "selling out" aspect, but more as "they've run out of ideas and this is the only thing they can do to get money" which would probably be a comment that would be all over the internet.

But then again, maybe the band doesn't care about that kind of trolls at all and they don't do it because they just don't feel like it 

[TheGreatPretender]

My guess would be the last one. I'm sure they're more interested in writing new music and lyrics, and not concerning themselves with recurring themes from Metropolis 1 and 2.

[tiagodon]

Well, they can always start a new joke, like Theatrum pt. 1... Maybe in DT13... Who knows? 

[dragonmaster715]

i feel that if a metropolis pt 3 was created it would turn into the shattered fortress: taking old ideas and attempting to make them new by changing them ever so slightly, while adding in a new riff here and there. that or it would be amazing, but either way i would prefer something new.

[TheGreatPretender]

i feel that if a metropolis pt 3 was created it would turn into the shattered fortress: taking old ideas and attempting to make them new by changing them ever so slightly, while adding in a new riff here and there. that or it would be amazing, but either way i would prefer something new.

Well, not really, because The Shattered Fortress is the culmination of 4, mostly different pieces of music. Whereas SFAM ALREADY had themes from Metropolis Pt 1, so if all Metropolis Pt. 3 did was copy what came before, then we'd just get a rearranged and augmented version of Scenes From A Memory, and there's just no way in hell they'd ever do something like that.

But yeah, I'd rather just get a new concept album with its own recurring themes and musical nuggets.

[Theme Dreater]

I would certainly listen to Metropolis III if it was written, but I don't think DT should write it. Unless of course, they read DTF and decide to make it about necrophilia and zombies

Seriously though, while I don't want them to necessarily write a third part to Metropolis, I would LOVE to see another true concept album.

[eviljust]

I would certainly listen to Metropolis III if it was written, but I don't think DT should write it. Unless of course, they read DTF and decide to make it about necrophilia and zombies

Seriously though, while I don't want them to necessarily write a third part to Metropolis, I would LOVE to see another true concept album.

My vote was yes 'cuz of the nice digression on the DT12 album 

And yes, would honestly love that, I think they would put their best efforts if they would ever come out with that idea. I was sceptic on the Part II and have become my fav DT album ever.

[thosava]

I wouldn't want them to make Metropolis pt. 3, because it would almost certainly be a let-down. Allthough, if they were to make an album like that, of course i would listen to it!

[aprilethereal]

And yes, would honestly love that, I think they would put their best efforts if they would ever come out with that idea. I was sceptic on the Part II and have become my fav DT album ever.

The difference is that the story is closed and done now. There's no need to continue, and if they did, it would be absolutely forced just to please fans and therefore the album would turn out to be a huge letdown and be nowhere near as good as parts 1 and 2.

[eviljust]

And yes, would honestly love that, I think they would put their best efforts if they would ever come out with that idea. I was sceptic on the Part II and have become my fav DT album ever.

The difference is that the story is closed and done now. There's no need to continue, and if they did, it would be absolutely forced just to please fans and therefore the album would turn out to be a huge letdown and be nowhere near as good as parts 1 and 2.

I think we can't state something like that. With ADTOE I can say my hopes are higher, when I have seen them on tour I had a glimpse of what they still can do. Like a renewed force and ispiration.

[aprilethereal]

I think we can't state something like that. With ADTOE I can say my hopes are higher, when I have seen them on tour I had a glimpse of what they still can do. Like a renewed force and ispiration.

The difference is that the story is closed and done now. There's no need to continue, and if they did, it would be absolutely forced just to please fans and therefore the album would turn out to be a huge letdown and be nowhere near as good as parts 1 and 2.

Period

[Kotowboy]

I think the likelihood of them calling an album " Metropolis Part III " is the same as Metallica naming an album " Load 3 ".


Would I like another album in that style ? Yes to both.

[Grizz]

I would certainly listen to Metropolis III if it was written, but I don't think DT should write it. Unless of course, they read DTF and decide to make it about necrophilia and zombies

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