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Who wants to listen to Metropolis Pt. III?

Started by Perpetual Change, July 25, 2013, 10:59:03 AM

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kirksnosehair

Oh, yeah, right, I never thought of the "prequel" angle.  That's how they could do a Part III and not have it be completely ridiculous.  Right?  RIGHT??  R I G H T ?? 

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JediKnight1969

Quote from: GasparXR on July 25, 2013, 11:16:08 AM
Quote from: Perpetual Change on July 25, 2013, 10:59:03 AM
Lately there seems to be some renwered anticipation for Dream Theater to do a follow up to Scenes From a Memory.

There is anticipation for Metropolis Pt. 3 before every album. XD

THIS.

JediKnight1969


Samsara

Quote from: Mister Gold on July 25, 2013, 11:04:50 AM
I'd rather not have a Metropolis Pt. 3, though I am open to the band doing another concept album in the future, so long as it's completely new. :tup

This.

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Marion Crane

You guys honestly mean to tell us that if DT released Metropolis pt. 3, you would go "Nah....not interested. Don't really wanna hear it."

No way in hell

Shadow Ninja 2.0

Quote from: Marion Crane on July 25, 2013, 01:53:55 PM
You guys honestly mean to tell us that if DT released Metropolis pt. 3, you would go "Nah....not interested. Don't really wanna hear it."

No way in hell

I'd still listen to it. But I have no desire for them to do it.

bosk1

Quote from: Marion Crane on July 25, 2013, 01:53:55 PM
You guys honestly mean to tell us that if DT released Metropolis pt. 3, you would go "Nah....not interested. Don't really wanna hear it."

No way in hell

The point isn't whether we would want to hear it if they released it.  The point is that most of us wouldn't want them to release it in the first place because would be pointless and would likely sound forced.

Marion Crane

Sorry, I just assumed from a thread title like "Who wants to listen to Metropolis pt. III" and people selecting "not me", that would mean they wouldn't want to listen to it.

My bad I guess :huh:

Jaq

Quote from: Marion Crane on July 25, 2013, 01:48:51 PM
Whoever puts "not me" is insane

Hey now I'm undergoing treatment for it though!

Less facetiously: would rather see them do something new rather than rework old themes again. I'd listen to a part III if they did it, and love it if it was awesome, but I have no interest in them actually doing it.

LBC.


johncal

Metropolis part 3 would be like the last Indiana Jones or Police academy 45. Some things should just be left alone in their glory.

TheGreatPretender

Quote from: johncal on July 25, 2013, 03:18:46 PM
Metropolis part 3 would be like the last Indiana Jones or Police academy 45. Some things should just be left alone in their glory.

No, I think it'd be more like Terminator 3, well made for what it is, but not in a million years, able to reach the heights that Part 2 had reached, and thus, not able to reach the inevitable expectations.

robwebster

"Not me." To quote Jordan Rudess - "That, my friend, would be like a bad movie, don't you think? One that went on and on and on. I'm not saying it's never gonna happen, but it's somewhat doubtful."

I'm not particularly attached to the Metropolis concept in any of its iterations, I don't think it's a story that I have any desire to revisit.

Quote from: Perpetual Change on July 25, 2013, 10:59:03 AM
Lately there seems to be some renwered anticipation for Dream Theater to do a follow up to Scenes From a Memory.
I don't know if it's renewed anticipation, necessarily, so much as just picking up a theme. The new album's titles and SfaM do share broad themes of sleep, dreams and murder. I don't think this particularly substantiates it as a theory - everyone thought Octavarium would be a concept album with strong religious themes for about a month - but I think it's extrapolating from scraps, more than any particular increase in appetite for such an album. Or that's my interpretation! I could be completely wrong.

GasparXR

Quote from: robwebster on July 25, 2013, 03:55:52 PMI don't know if it's renewed anticipation, necessarily, so much as just picking up a theme. The new album's titles and SfaM do share broad themes of sleep, dreams and murder. I don't think this particularly substantiates it as a theory - everyone thought Octavarium would be a concept album with strong religious themes for about a month - but I think it's extrapolating from scraps, more than any particular increase in appetite for such an album. Or that's my interpretation! I could be completely wrong.

That's interesting about Octavarium being speculated in that way. One song did end up having a religious theme, that being Sacrificed Sons.

robwebster

I suppose, to an extent - it certainly touches on religious themes, yeah. That said, I think it's about as secular as any song with the title "Sacrificed Sons" can possibly be.

tiagodon

A Metropolis pt. III would be an intelligent marketing strategy for a grand return if something bad happened to the band and it ceased activities...

bosk1

Quote from: GasparXR on July 25, 2013, 04:08:07 PM
Quote from: robwebster on July 25, 2013, 03:55:52 PMI don't know if it's renewed anticipation, necessarily, so much as just picking up a theme. The new album's titles and SfaM do share broad themes of sleep, dreams and murder. I don't think this particularly substantiates it as a theory - everyone thought Octavarium would be a concept album with strong religious themes for about a month - but I think it's extrapolating from scraps, more than any particular increase in appetite for such an album. Or that's my interpretation! I could be completely wrong.

That's interesting about Octavarium being speculated in that way.

The main reason for that is because nobody knew what an "Octavarium" is/was.  Prior to the album/song being released, the only thing a google search would yield would be references to the Octavarium Romanum:  https://www.newadvent.org/cathen/11203b.htm

Kotowboy

Quote from: GasparXR on July 25, 2013, 04:08:07 PM
Quote from: robwebster on July 25, 2013, 03:55:52 PMI don't know if it's renewed anticipation, necessarily, so much as just picking up a theme. The new album's titles and SfaM do share broad themes of sleep, dreams and murder. I don't think this particularly substantiates it as a theory - everyone thought Octavarium would be a concept album with strong religious themes for about a month - but I think it's extrapolating from scraps, more than any particular increase in appetite for such an album. Or that's my interpretation! I could be completely wrong.

That's interesting about Octavarium being speculated in that way. One song did end up having a religious theme, that being Sacrificed Sons.

And I Walk Beside You chorus could refer to Jesus... If one were so inclined.

Kotowboy

Quote from: tiagodon on July 25, 2013, 04:35:55 PM
A Metropolis pt. III would be an intelligent marketing strategy for a grand return if something bad happened to the band and it ceased activities...

True.


But Until then. No.

jonnybaxy

Another would ruin the previous 2, so no.

TheGreatPretender

Quote from: tiagodon on July 25, 2013, 04:35:55 PM
A Metropolis pt. III would be an intelligent marketing strategy for a grand return if something bad happened to the band and it ceased activities...

You mean, like, if they listened to Portnoy?

Grizz

Quote from: TheGreatPretender on July 25, 2013, 11:56:29 AM
Heck, maybe even build upon one of their other fan-favorite songs and create a sequel to that.
Ah yes, the big reveal of what big fuckin' thing James LaBrie gave to his wife.

TheGreatPretender

Quote from: Grizz on July 25, 2013, 05:35:42 PM
Ah yes, the big reveal of what big fuckin' thing James LaBrie gave to his wife.

Dream Theater - The Canadian Rap Pt. 2: Scenes From Tim Hortons

j

Scenes ain't that good, and I don't generally like "concept albums" anyway.  I'd just like to hear something different from them.

-J

Elite

Quote from: Grizz on July 25, 2013, 05:35:42 PM
Quote from: TheGreatPretender on July 25, 2013, 11:56:29 AM
Heck, maybe even build upon one of their other fan-favorite songs and create a sequel to that.
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But, what it is, he can't tell us.
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Nearmyth

Like it has been said, the story is wrapped up, over. It would be completely unnecessary, it sounds like people want it just for the sake of a continuation. It's like when successful movies make sequels that the franchise could do completely without.

But sure I would listen to it.

TheGreatPretender

Quote from: Nearmyth on July 25, 2013, 08:42:00 PM
Like it has been said, the story is wrapped up, over. It would be completely unnecessary, it sounds like people want it just for the sake of a continuation. It's like when successful movies make sequels that the franchise could do completely without.

But sure I would listen to it.

The difference is that this is music and not cinema though. People don't listen to music for the story (although I guess some people do care about the lyrics), people listen for the actual music. So I think the majority of people who want Metropolis Pt 3, aren't saying they desperately want a continuation of the story, I think they just want another album sharing the same musical themes, and that's all that it would need to be, I think.

BlobVanDam



I adore SFAM like almost no other album, but please, let this die. The whole point of Metropolis pt 2 was to end it, and it could not have done so more perfectly. Done. Over.

Lucidity

Quote from: BlobVanDam on July 25, 2013, 09:14:48 PM


I adore SFAM like almost no other album, but please, let this die. The whole point of Metropolis pt 2 was to end it, and it could not have done so more perfectly. Done. Over.

Mosh

I have a question. People keep talking about how they want to hear more of the story, but was the story really that good? I mean, I thought most people liked it for the music. Compared to its fellow concept albums (Mindcrime, The Wall, etc) the story was pretty average IMO.

RaiseTheKnife

There is a binary theme to Metropis 1 and 2, and therfore, DT intended to only have two parts.  A third part would go against the theme.  Consider the "theme of two's" found in the Metropolis suite:  M2 is a TWO act play, twin brothers, the duality of the Miracle and the Sleeper, etc.  Both parts serve as a binary counterpart to the other.

Consider further the thematic sequences of how both stories unfold.  It is clear that the themes are a tandem, but set up as mirror opposites: Metropolis 1 progresses with the following sequence: First=Death, Second=Deceit, Third=Love.  Metropolis Part 2 contrasts this by telling a story in the diametric opposite:  First=Love, Second=Deceit, Third=Death. 

If you ponder the above you will see that the concept of Metropolis was always intended as a couplet, and thus should remain cemented in two parts.

54_diplomats

I only just listened to SFAM recently but I don't think there should be a part 3. SFAM felt pretty complete, there's no need for another part.