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Started by Filipe_metalhead, November 23, 2012, 02:24:46 PM

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Filipe_metalhead

Ok guys, I know that this has been talked over and discussed, but here it is anyways...

I love the song "The Count Of Tuscany" it gives me the shivers to hear the lyrics... I love playing it, love hearing it, love it... I do wander, there are three meanings to this song (as long as I know) and the meaning number one is, which is more plausible and justified by Mr. Petrucci him self:

- True story, Mr. John Petrucci and the Guitar Technician, which is also a wine importer, went into a museum of wines and they met the Count Niccolò Capponi an historian gentlemen bred from Royal Blood, beared and always sucking on his pipe...
see the details the words from Petrucci's himself:
https://www.mikeportnoy.com/forum/m2346868-p6.aspx;

and the story of mr Niccolò Caponni: https://www.music.iastate.edu/courses/471/capponi.htm

The Truth Number two:

- a very non-sense truthcarrying a connection about Systematic Chaos and the song, I will not tell in my words what truth is this because some DTforum member wrote this, and I do respect his opinion but I'm obligued to disagree and question about the true meaning of the song. Here's the link to the 2nd truth: https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=30053.0

And at last, the last truth:

- A silly story about a sex get away of Petrucci himself... I can't remember where I read this but I found it quite hilarious... Specially when the same person refers to the line in the lyrics "sucking on his pipe" a sexual gesture... God save the naive minds... Why the hell would Mr. Petrucci write a lyric sorrounding his sexual adventures??


So, my question is, which of these 3 truths is the real truth??

Scorpion

Obviously the last one, geez.

MoraWintersoul

Quote from: Filipe_metalhead on November 23, 2012, 02:24:46 PM
God save the naive minds... Why the hell would Mr. Petrucci write a lyric sorrounding his sexual adventures??
Re: The Dark Eternal Night

SomeoneLikeHim


Filipe_metalhead

ok, you're joking about "The Dark Eternal Night" right?

be cause in here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Systematic_Chaos, you can obviously understand and by reading the lyrics you can clearly see the true meaning of the song...

SomeoneLikeHim

You must be new here ;D (yes, she's joking)

Filipe_metalhead

thank god, yeh, I'm new here and I'm portuguese (I'm saying this because I don't know certain things about the American culture...) XD

wasteland

Quote from: Filipe_metalhead on November 23, 2012, 02:57:34 PM
thank god, yeh, I'm new here and I'm portuguese (I'm saying this because I don't know certain things about the American culture...) XD

It doesn't really have to do with American culture (not eveyone here is a UScitizen!)... it's just the general spirit of this forum. We take most things very light heartedly, unless it's Kevin Moore. Or Mike Portnoy. Or The Count Of Tuscany.  :lol  (and yes, this is a joke too  :lol )

SomeoneLikeHim

In fact, so far not a single american has posted in this thread!

GasparXR

Quote from: SomeoneLikeHim on November 23, 2012, 03:06:29 PM
In fact, so far not a single american has posted in this thread!

Very true! Less capitalism ;)

wasteland

Quote from: SomeoneLikeHim on November 23, 2012, 03:06:29 PM
In fact, so far not a single american has posted in this thread!

Hey, I didn't know you were Sweden! It's about five of you on the boards, right? :)

Also, the fact that TCOT might be a blown out of proportions metaphor of a sexual adventure by JP is utterly awesome and ridiculous at the same time. :)

Quote from: GasparXR on November 23, 2012, 03:11:45 PM
Very true! Less capitalism ;)

As if our countries wern't capitalistic ;D

SomeoneLikeHim

Quote from: wasteland on November 23, 2012, 03:13:17 PM
Quote from: SomeoneLikeHim on November 23, 2012, 03:06:29 PM
In fact, so far not a single american has posted in this thread!

Hey, I didn't know you were Sweden! It's about five of you on the boards, right? :)

Also, the fact that TCOT might be a blown out of proportions metaphor of a sexual adventure by JP is utterly awesome and ridiculous at the same time. :)


I don't know exactly how many there are. Off the top of my head I can mention Zydar, Zantera and Lynxo but there might be more.

And yeah, the sex thing was pretty hilarious :lol

GasparXR


robwebster

Nothing to add, just adding to the list of the Europeans.

It is definitely truth number one, though.

SomeoneLikeHim


JayOctavarium

'merica reporting in...


oh and #3

DebraKadabra

Quote from: SomeoneLikeHim on November 23, 2012, 03:06:29 PM
In fact, so far not a single american has posted in this thread!

You rang? :biggrin:

Shit, ninja'd by JayO. :loser:
Look at all us freaks cluttering your city streets
Still scalping their ticket-less applause
Spun monkeys on the railroad track, take me to the caine field; I walk along pick my spiderbite
Basically Kyoko Kirigiri

SomeoneLikeHim

This thread has been tainted! Run while you can!

JayOctavarium


DebraKadabra

Look at all us freaks cluttering your city streets
Still scalping their ticket-less applause
Spun monkeys on the railroad track, take me to the caine field; I walk along pick my spiderbite
Basically Kyoko Kirigiri

robwebster

Ohhhh, it was good while it lasted.

Quote from: SomeoneLikeHim on November 23, 2012, 03:33:04 PM
Quote from: robwebster on November 23, 2012, 03:27:03 PM
Nothing to add, just adding
wtf?
In my feeble defence, I've had a lot of shots.

DebraKadabra

Look at all us freaks cluttering your city streets
Still scalping their ticket-less applause
Spun monkeys on the railroad track, take me to the caine field; I walk along pick my spiderbite
Basically Kyoko Kirigiri

MoraWintersoul

Anyway, to add a little seriousness:
Yes, the first version is correct.

However, that didn't stop people from joking around:

Filipe_metalhead

the worst art of it is that many people believe in #2 and #3... They're just ridiculous explanations, probably someone told that joking arround and the fact is that many people believed in that... However, the song is truly amazing, and it must've been (if in fact was like in the lyrics) quite an adventure for Petrucci... XD

Rob

Sex adventure. "I don't wanna die!" :lol

I still don't get truth 1 though. Seriously, what the fuck. Was John high?

MoraWintersoul

Quote from: Rob on November 24, 2012, 04:39:41 AM
Seriously, what the fuck. Was John high?
I think they were a bit tipsy and he got all paranoid for some reason. Not sure. It never interested me enough I guess.


See, Filipe, once we run through all the jokes, we actually start productive discussions :biggrin:

Rob

Maybe it was John's first wine? I've been tipsy before and I've never been afraid of... bearded people.  :|

Elite

The Netherlands reporting in and down the cellar stairs, I disappear.
Quote from: Lolzeez on November 18, 2013, 01:23:32 PMHey dude slow the fuck down so we can finish together at the same time.  :biggrin:
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JayOctavarium

Quote from: Elite on November 24, 2012, 05:07:45 AM
The Netherlands reporting in and down the cellar stairs, I disappear.

INVENTORY!!!!!


oh wait... nevermind

wasteland

Quote from: JayOctavarium on November 24, 2012, 05:15:01 AM
Quote from: Elite on November 24, 2012, 05:07:45 AM
The Netherlands reporting in and down the cellar stairs, I disappear.

INVENTORY!!!!!


oh wait... nevermind

Stop spamming this thread with your americanness :D

Rob

Germany's here, too, btw.

Maybe something really bad happened down there and playing it down as "being a little paranoid without a reason" was John's way to secretly rewrite the past?

:neverusethis:

Scorpion

Quote from: Rob on November 24, 2012, 05:20:05 AM
Germany's here, too, btw.

Maybe something really bad happened down there and playing it down as "being a little paranoid without a reason" was John's way to secretly rewrite the past?

:neverusethis:

Fuck yeah Germany! :hifive:

Wo in Deutschland wohnst du?

Rob

Quote from: Scorpion on November 24, 2012, 05:28:59 AM
Quote from: Rob on November 24, 2012, 05:20:05 AM
Germany's here, too, btw.

Maybe something really bad happened down there and playing it down as "being a little paranoid without a reason" was John's way to secretly rewrite the past?

:neverusethis:

Fuck yeah Germany! :hifive:

Wo in Deutschland wohnst du?

Im Saarland.  :facepalm: Also ziemlich nah and der Grenze zu Frankreich. What about you?  :)

wasteland

Quote from: Rob on November 24, 2012, 05:30:25 AM
Quote from: Scorpion on November 24, 2012, 05:28:59 AM
Quote from: Rob on November 24, 2012, 05:20:05 AM
Germany's here, too, btw.

Maybe something really bad happened down there and playing it down as "being a little paranoid without a reason" was John's way to secretly rewrite the past?

:neverusethis:

Fuck yeah Germany! :hifive:

Wo in Deutschland wohnst du?

Im Saarland.  :facepalm: Also ziemlich nah and der Grenze zu Frankreich. What about you?  :)

Kartoffel.

Rob

 :lol That's the dumbest "insult" ever, because everyone eats potatoes.

Olive oil head.