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Title: The Count Of Tuscany
Post by: Filipe_metalhead on November 23, 2012, 03:24:46 PM
Ok guys, I know that this has been talked over and discussed, but here it is anyways...

I love the song "The Count Of Tuscany" it gives me the shivers to hear the lyrics... I love playing it, love hearing it, love it... I do wander, there are three meanings to this song (as long as I know) and the meaning number one is, which is more plausible and justified by Mr. Petrucci him self:

- True story, Mr. John Petrucci and the Guitar Technician, which is also a wine importer, went into a museum of wines and they met the Count Niccolò Capponi an historian gentlemen bred from Royal Blood, beared and always sucking on his pipe...
see the details the words from Petrucci's himself:
https://www.mikeportnoy.com/forum/m2346868-p6.aspx;

and the story of mr Niccolò Caponni: https://www.music.iastate.edu/courses/471/capponi.htm

The Truth Number two:

- a very non-sense truthcarrying a connection about Systematic Chaos and the song, I will not tell in my words what truth is this because some DTforum member wrote this, and I do respect his opinion but I'm obligued to disagree and question about the true meaning of the song. Here's the link to the 2nd truth: https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=30053.0

And at last, the last truth:

- A silly story about a sex get away of Petrucci himself... I can't remember where I read this but I found it quite hilarious... Specially when the same person refers to the line in the lyrics "sucking on his pipe" a sexual gesture... God save the naive minds... Why the hell would Mr. Petrucci write a lyric sorrounding his sexual adventures??


So, my question is, which of these 3 truths is the real truth??
Title: Re: The Count Of Tuscany
Post by: Scorpion on November 23, 2012, 03:29:26 PM
Obviously the last one, geez.
Title: Re: The Count Of Tuscany
Post by: MoraWintersoul on November 23, 2012, 03:32:58 PM
God save the naive minds... Why the hell would Mr. Petrucci write a lyric sorrounding his sexual adventures??
Re: The Dark Eternal Night
Title: Re: The Count Of Tuscany
Post by: SomeoneLikeHim on November 23, 2012, 03:39:43 PM
IT IS THE LAST!!!
Title: Re: The Count Of Tuscany
Post by: Filipe_metalhead on November 23, 2012, 03:52:30 PM
ok, you're joking about "The Dark Eternal Night" right?

be cause in here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Systematic_Chaos, you can obviously understand and by reading the lyrics you can clearly see the true meaning of the song...
Title: Re: The Count Of Tuscany
Post by: SomeoneLikeHim on November 23, 2012, 03:55:06 PM
You must be new here ;D (yes, she's joking)
Title: Re: The Count Of Tuscany
Post by: Filipe_metalhead on November 23, 2012, 03:57:34 PM
thank god, yeh, I'm new here and I'm portuguese (I'm saying this because I don't know certain things about the American culture...) XD
Title: Re: The Count Of Tuscany
Post by: wasteland on November 23, 2012, 04:01:31 PM
thank god, yeh, I'm new here and I'm portuguese (I'm saying this because I don't know certain things about the American culture...) XD

It doesn't really have to do with American culture (not eveyone here is a UScitizen!)... it's just the general spirit of this forum. We take most things very light heartedly, unless it's Kevin Moore. Or Mike Portnoy. Or The Count Of Tuscany.  :lol  (and yes, this is a joke too  :lol )
Title: Re: The Count Of Tuscany
Post by: SomeoneLikeHim on November 23, 2012, 04:06:29 PM
In fact, so far not a single american has posted in this thread!
Title: Re: The Count Of Tuscany
Post by: GasparXR on November 23, 2012, 04:11:45 PM
In fact, so far not a single american has posted in this thread!

Very true! Less capitalism ;)
Title: Re: The Count Of Tuscany
Post by: wasteland on November 23, 2012, 04:13:17 PM
In fact, so far not a single american has posted in this thread!

Hey, I didn't know you were Sweden! It's about five of you on the boards, right? :)

Also, the fact that TCOT might be a blown out of proportions metaphor of a sexual adventure by JP is utterly awesome and ridiculous at the same time. :)

Very true! Less capitalism ;)

As if our countries wern't capitalistic ;D
Title: Re: The Count Of Tuscany
Post by: SomeoneLikeHim on November 23, 2012, 04:19:37 PM
In fact, so far not a single american has posted in this thread!

Hey, I didn't know you were Sweden! It's about five of you on the boards, right? :)

Also, the fact that TCOT might be a blown out of proportions metaphor of a sexual adventure by JP is utterly awesome and ridiculous at the same time. :)


I don't know exactly how many there are. Off the top of my head I can mention Zydar, Zantera and Lynxo but there might be more.

And yeah, the sex thing was pretty hilarious :lol
Title: Re: The Count Of Tuscany
Post by: GasparXR on November 23, 2012, 04:21:47 PM

Very true! Less capitalism ;)

As if our countries wern't capitalistic ;D

Hehe, exactly:P
Title: Re: The Count Of Tuscany
Post by: robwebster on November 23, 2012, 04:27:03 PM
Nothing to add, just adding to the list of the Europeans.

It is definitely truth number one, though.
Title: Re: The Count Of Tuscany
Post by: SomeoneLikeHim on November 23, 2012, 04:33:04 PM
Nothing to add, just adding
wtf?
Title: Re: The Count Of Tuscany
Post by: JayOctavarium on November 23, 2012, 05:14:20 PM
'merica reporting in...


oh and #3
Title: Re: The Count Of Tuscany
Post by: DebraKadabra on November 23, 2012, 05:15:02 PM
In fact, so far not a single american has posted in this thread!

You rang? :biggrin:

Shit, ninja'd by JayO. :loser:
Title: Re: The Count Of Tuscany
Post by: SomeoneLikeHim on November 23, 2012, 05:19:58 PM
This thread has been tainted! Run while you can!
Title: Re: The Count Of Tuscany
Post by: JayOctavarium on November 23, 2012, 05:20:31 PM
:JayOctavarium:
Title: Re: The Count Of Tuscany
Post by: DebraKadabra on November 23, 2012, 05:30:15 PM
This thread has been tainted! Run while you can!

You love us and you know it. :heart

:JayOctavarium:

 :biggrin:
Title: Re: The Count Of Tuscany
Post by: robwebster on November 23, 2012, 05:42:03 PM
Ohhhh, it was good while it lasted.

Nothing to add, just adding
wtf?
In my feeble defence, I've had a lot of shots.
Title: Re: The Count Of Tuscany
Post by: DebraKadabra on November 23, 2012, 05:51:48 PM
But... (https://img.photobucket.com/albums/v317/bizarredevotedfan/Randomness/sadface.gif)
Title: Re: The Count Of Tuscany
Post by: MoraWintersoul on November 24, 2012, 02:26:14 AM
Anyway, to add a little seriousness:
Yes, the first version is correct.

However, that didn't stop people from joking around:
(https://s3.amazonaws.com/data.tumblr.com/tumblr_lz53eg4oaj1qcou1ao1_400.jpg)
Title: Re: The Count Of Tuscany
Post by: Filipe_metalhead on November 24, 2012, 04:57:48 AM
the worst art of it is that many people believe in #2 and #3... They're just ridiculous explanations, probably someone told that joking arround and the fact is that many people believed in that... However, the song is truly amazing, and it must've been (if in fact was like in the lyrics) quite an adventure for Petrucci... XD
Title: Re: The Count Of Tuscany
Post by: Rob on November 24, 2012, 05:39:41 AM
Sex adventure. "I don't wanna die!" :lol

I still don't get truth 1 though. Seriously, what the fuck. Was John high?
Title: Re: The Count Of Tuscany
Post by: MoraWintersoul on November 24, 2012, 05:58:57 AM
Seriously, what the fuck. Was John high?
I think they were a bit tipsy and he got all paranoid for some reason. Not sure. It never interested me enough I guess.


See, Filipe, once we run through all the jokes, we actually start productive discussions :biggrin:
Title: Re: The Count Of Tuscany
Post by: Rob on November 24, 2012, 06:03:46 AM
Maybe it was John's first wine? I've been tipsy before and I've never been afraid of... bearded people.  :|
Title: Re: The Count Of Tuscany
Post by: Elite on November 24, 2012, 06:07:45 AM
The Netherlands reporting in and down the cellar stairs, I disappear.
Title: Re: The Count Of Tuscany
Post by: JayOctavarium on November 24, 2012, 06:15:01 AM
The Netherlands reporting in and down the cellar stairs, I disappear.

INVENTORY!!!!!


oh wait... nevermind
Title: Re: The Count Of Tuscany
Post by: wasteland on November 24, 2012, 06:17:18 AM
The Netherlands reporting in and down the cellar stairs, I disappear.

INVENTORY!!!!!


oh wait... nevermind

Stop spamming this thread with your americanness :D
Title: Re: The Count Of Tuscany
Post by: Rob on November 24, 2012, 06:20:05 AM
Germany's here, too, btw.

Maybe something really bad happened down there and playing it down as "being a little paranoid without a reason" was John's way to secretly rewrite the past?

:neverusethis:
Title: Re: The Count Of Tuscany
Post by: Scorpion on November 24, 2012, 06:28:59 AM
Germany's here, too, btw.

Maybe something really bad happened down there and playing it down as "being a little paranoid without a reason" was John's way to secretly rewrite the past?

:neverusethis:

Fuck yeah Germany! :hifive:

Wo in Deutschland wohnst du?
Title: Re: The Count Of Tuscany
Post by: Rob on November 24, 2012, 06:30:25 AM
Germany's here, too, btw.

Maybe something really bad happened down there and playing it down as "being a little paranoid without a reason" was John's way to secretly rewrite the past?

:neverusethis:

Fuck yeah Germany! :hifive:

Wo in Deutschland wohnst du?

Im Saarland.  :facepalm: Also ziemlich nah and der Grenze zu Frankreich. What about you?  :)
Title: Re: The Count Of Tuscany
Post by: wasteland on November 24, 2012, 06:32:03 AM
Germany's here, too, btw.

Maybe something really bad happened down there and playing it down as "being a little paranoid without a reason" was John's way to secretly rewrite the past?

:neverusethis:

Fuck yeah Germany! :hifive:

Wo in Deutschland wohnst du?

Im Saarland.  :facepalm: Also ziemlich nah and der Grenze zu Frankreich. What about you?  :)

Kartoffel.
Title: Re: The Count Of Tuscany
Post by: Rob on November 24, 2012, 06:34:25 AM
 :lol That's the dumbest "insult" ever, because everyone eats potatoes.

Olive oil head.
Title: Re: The Count Of Tuscany
Post by: wasteland on November 24, 2012, 06:41:52 AM
:lol That's the dumbest "insult" ever, because everyone eats potatoes.

Olive oil head.

It was not an insult... It was just... the only german word I know... :emo:


Title: Re: The Count Of Tuscany
Post by: Scorpion on November 24, 2012, 06:41:58 AM
Dresden.

Marco, thanks for your valued contribution to our conversation. :P
Title: Re: The Count Of Tuscany
Post by: Rob on November 24, 2012, 06:43:56 AM
Okay, back to topic. So we all agree that TCOT is about JP's sex life, right?

Especially this part:

Could this be the end? Is this the way I die?
Sitting here alone, no one by my side
I don't understand, I don't feel that I deserve this
What did I do wrong? I just don't understand
I just don't understand


 
Title: Re: The Count Of Tuscany
Post by: wasteland on November 24, 2012, 06:44:55 AM
Thanks Scorpion (I don't think I have ever known your true name, actually...). Your latest post was indeed beinaheleidenschaftsgegenstand.
Title: Re: The Count Of Tuscany
Post by: Scorpion on November 24, 2012, 06:51:13 AM
:lol That's the dumbest "insult" ever, because everyone eats potatoes.

Olive oil head.

It was not an insult... It was just... the only german word I know... :emo:

Shhhhhh, it's fine, I love you anyway.

Also, you may call me Tom.

Rob: I'm afraid I don't see the connection.
Title: Re: The Count Of Tuscany
Post by: Rob on November 24, 2012, 06:59:56 AM
Seriously?  ???

Well, alright.

You can call me Tom too, by the way.
Title: Re: The Count Of Tuscany
Post by: ? on November 24, 2012, 07:02:05 AM
This pic sums up the story of TCOT:
(https://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m3aq3vVbuH1r864ayo1_1280.jpg)

...or this post (https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=34663.msg1442824#msg1442824).
Title: Re: The Count Of Tuscany
Post by: Scorpion on November 24, 2012, 07:06:29 AM
Seriously?  ???

Well, alright.

I just don't understand how that part is supposed to be about his sex life. Enlighten me?
Title: Re: The Count Of Tuscany
Post by: Rob on November 24, 2012, 07:12:14 AM
Seriously?  ???

Well, alright.
I just don't understand...

 :lol
Title: Re: The Count Of Tuscany
Post by: hefdaddy42 on November 24, 2012, 08:59:21 AM
(https://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i238/hefdaddy42/DTF/dtforg.jpg)
Title: Re: The Count Of Tuscany
Post by: Lolzeez on November 24, 2012, 09:24:18 AM
This pic sums up the story of TCOT:
(https://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m3aq3vVbuH1r864ayo1_1280.jpg)

...or this post (https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=34663.msg1442824#msg1442824).

You just won the internet.
Title: Re: The Count Of Tuscany
Post by: adameastment on November 24, 2012, 09:46:03 AM
Okay, back to topic. So we all agree that TCOT is about JP's sex life, right?

Especially this part:

Could this be the end? Is this the way I die?
Sitting here alone, no one by my side
I don't understand, I don't feel that I deserve this
What did I do wrong? I just don't understand
I just don't understand


 


Furious masturbation.

Yes, I went there.
Title: Re: The Count Of Tuscany
Post by: SomeoneLikeHim on November 24, 2012, 02:58:37 PM
Okay, back to topic. So we all agree that TCOT is about JP's sex life, right?

Especially this part:

Could this be the end? Is this the way I die?
Sitting here alone, no one by my side
I don't understand, I don't feel that I deserve this
What did I do wrong? I just don't understand
I just don't understand


 


Furious masturbation.

Yes, I went there.
I was just wondering how his arms got so big...
Title: Re: The Count Of Tuscany
Post by: adameastment on November 24, 2012, 03:05:39 PM
Okay, back to topic. So we all agree that TCOT is about JP's sex life, right?

Especially this part:

Could this be the end? Is this the way I die?
Sitting here alone, no one by my side
I don't understand, I don't feel that I deserve this
What did I do wrong? I just don't understand
I just don't understand


 


Furious masturbation.

Yes, I went there.
I was just wondering how his arms got so big...

Ever noticed his right is bigger than his left?
Title: Re: The Count Of Tuscany
Post by: Elite on November 24, 2012, 03:46:29 PM
The Netherlands reporting in and down the cellar stairs, I disappear.

INVENTORY!!!!!


oh wait... nevermind

The world is bigger than a cake.
Title: Re: The Count Of Tuscany
Post by: The Letter M on November 24, 2012, 03:48:35 PM
The Netherlands reporting in and down the cellar stairs, I disappear.

INVENTORY!!!!!


oh wait... nevermind

The world is bigger than a cake.

(Instrumental)

-Marc.
Title: Re: The Count Of Tuscany
Post by: SomeoneLikeHim on November 24, 2012, 03:52:38 PM
The Netherlands reporting in and down the cellar stairs, I disappear.

INVENTORY!!!!!


oh wait... nevermind

The world is bigger than a cake.

(Instrumental)

-Marc.
:lol that signature looks so out of place
Title: Re: The Count Of Tuscany
Post by: Cedar redaC on November 24, 2012, 08:46:26 PM
The Netherlands reporting in and down the cellar stairs, I disappear.

INVENTORY!!!!!


oh wait... nevermind

The world is bigger than a cake.

(Instrumental)

-Marc.
(Epic Chorus)
Title: Re: The Count Of Tuscany
Post by: ? on November 25, 2012, 01:27:10 AM
You just won the internet.
More precisely, wolfking and whoever made that pic won the internet. I was just spreading the joyous message of their work :biggrin:
Title: Re: The Count Of Tuscany
Post by: Filipe_metalhead on November 25, 2012, 05:13:41 AM
The chorus are amazing... They're so melodic... And if you get the chance of having the isolated tracks of the song (which I have) and if you hear only the keys isolated you would amazed of how beauty is the chorus line...
Title: Re: The Count Of Tuscany
Post by: Elite on November 25, 2012, 04:39:48 PM
But, The Count of Tuscany is not in D-Tuning.
Title: Re: The Count Of Tuscany
Post by: Cedar redaC on November 25, 2012, 09:59:55 PM
The chorus are amazing... They're so melodic... And if you get the chance of having the isolated tracks of the song (which I have) and if you hear only the keys isolated you would amazed of how beauty is the chorus line...
I agree, the keys in the chorus are much too quiet on the album.
Title: Re: The Count Of Tuscany
Post by: ? on November 26, 2012, 12:46:58 AM
The chorus are amazing... They're so melodic... And if you get the chance of having the isolated tracks of the song (which I have) and if you hear only the keys isolated you would amazed of how beauty is the chorus line...
I agree, the keys in the chorus are much too quiet on the album.
Title: Re: The Count Of Tuscany
Post by: wasteland on November 26, 2012, 06:33:30 AM
The chorus are amazing... They're so melodic... And if you get the chance of having the isolated tracks of the song (which I have) and if you hear only the keys isolated you would amazed of how beauty is the chorus line...
I agree, the keys in the chorus are much too quiet on the album.

The Key Stems are quite amazing. Especially the last 6 minutes, just perfect. I agree that they the keyboard line needed to be more prominent in the song.
Title: Re: The Count Of Tuscany
Post by: SystematicThought on November 26, 2012, 11:14:19 AM
The keyboard line in the chorus is my favorite. It is too low, although when they play it live, it's much more prominent. The keys are my favorite part of the song, the end kind of gives me a Coldplay vibe
Title: Re: The Count Of Tuscany
Post by: Filipe_metalhead on November 26, 2012, 04:01:51 PM
I totally agree, the keys should be a little bit more higher in the Chorus. The guitar is too loud and is not that relevant to be in that way... The keys are giving away the melody and they're too low...

Altough the lyrics are awesome, the guitar solo/key solo in the middle, at the beginning it tired me a bit, but after hear it live, I just went crazy... And the acoustic guitar at the end really gives the song that push, that doubt and then the happy ending... XD
Title: Re: The Count Of Tuscany
Post by: Ruba on November 28, 2012, 12:38:40 AM
However, that didn't stop people from joking around:
(https://s3.amazonaws.com/data.tumblr.com/tumblr_lz53eg4oaj1qcou1ao1_400.jpg)

Aaaaahahahahahahaha brilliant!  :rollin :rollin

E: I have been wondering, when we are starting to chat about KM, because this thread began from The Count of Tuscany.




(https://i271.photobucket.com/albums/jj144/guitarcozmo/DTFMemesignpost.jpg)
Title: Re: The Count Of Tuscany
Post by: ArchVile on November 28, 2012, 04:38:01 AM
I love TCOT so much, as all the  rest of BC&SL.
lyrics are very interesting, but maybe there should be an alternative lyric  :justjen
Title: Re: The Count Of Tuscany
Post by: ? on November 28, 2012, 05:57:42 AM
(https://i271.photobucket.com/albums/jj144/guitarcozmo/DTFMemesignpost.jpg)
Someone should update that pic with Mike Portnoy and Systematic Chaos.
Title: Re: The Count Of Tuscany
Post by: Cedar redaC on November 28, 2012, 09:49:00 AM
(https://i271.photobucket.com/albums/jj144/guitarcozmo/DTFMemesignpost.jpg)
I was looking for that picture a week or two ago. I find it awesome!
Title: Re: The Count Of Tuscany
Post by: wasteland on November 28, 2012, 11:13:45 AM
Indeed. Blob, was it your doing in the first place?  ::)
Title: Re: The Count Of Tuscany
Post by: kirksnosehair on November 28, 2012, 11:57:31 AM
The Netherlands reporting in and down the cellar stairs, I disappear.

INVENTORY!!!!!


oh wait... nevermind

ANALYSIS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
(https://www.google.com/url?source=imglanding&ct=img&q=https://blogs.sfweekly.com/thesnitch/cookie_monster.jpg&sa=X&ei=gl62UJedGeWS0QGKiICICg&ved=0CAkQ8wc&usg=AFQjCNHtk3SfJ5zvi0ec4Zc3Aa9IrPzaSw)
Title: Re: The Count Of Tuscany
Post by: DebraKadabra on November 28, 2012, 11:59:17 AM
 :lol :rollin :lol
Title: Re: The Count Of Tuscany
Post by: JayOctavarium on November 28, 2012, 07:09:02 PM
The Netherlands reporting in and down the cellar stairs, I disappear.

INVENTORY!!!!!


oh wait... nevermind

ANALYSIS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
(https://www.google.com/url?source=imglanding&ct=img&q=https://blogs.sfweekly.com/thesnitch/cookie_monster.jpg&sa=X&ei=gl62UJedGeWS0QGKiICICg&ved=0CAkQ8wc&usg=AFQjCNHtk3SfJ5zvi0ec4Zc3Aa9IrPzaSw)

SUCKING ON HIS PIPE!



Wait that actually works... nevermind carry on
Title: Re: The Count Of Tuscany
Post by: Ruba on November 29, 2012, 01:54:50 AM
Indeed. Blob, was it your doing in the first place?  ::)

The link has words GuitarCozmo.

By the way, when you count the signs from one side...











THEY GO TO 11!  :metal :metal :metal