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Started by bosk1, April 29, 2010, 10:01:16 AM

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bosk1

I know I'm going to catch a lot of criticism for this, but I'm just listening to my EP version of Systematic Chaos on iTunes and appreciating how amazingly awesome it is when you rearrange the tracks a bit and cut out the 21 minutes of PoW and TMOLS that, to me, create way too much of a lull that make me lose interest in the album.

My track list and track order:
ITPOE1
ITPOE2
Forsaken
Constant Motion
Repentence
TDEN

Perfection.

RandalGraves

Nice.  I'm not nuts about Constant Motion, but I can see this working out a lot better.  I recently did this with Opeth's Watershed (cutting off the last two tracks).

glaurung

I was going to start cutting songs I would get rid of ITPOE Part 2 and Forsaken before anything else.

yeshaberto


KevShmev

Is there a way I can get rid of both "Forsaken" and "Constant Motion," but keep the guitar solos? 

Nick

Didn't you make this thread like, 6 months ago? :lol

Anyway I agree with cutting Ministry, but PoW is awesome.

Dublagent66


hefdaddy42

Systematic Chaos minus Constant Motion, Forsaken, and Prophets of War = tasty.
Quote from: BlobVanDam on December 11, 2014, 08:19:46 PMHef is right on all things. Except for when I disagree with him. In which case he's probably still right.

Shadow2222

Forsaken, Prophets of War, and TMOLS are my favorite songs off the album.

Dark Master Of Sin

I really like TMOLS but I don't like PoW...

Bombardana

Quote from: RandalGraves on April 29, 2010, 10:03:56 AM
I recently did this with Opeth's Watershed (cutting off the last two tracks).
:'(

pogoowner

The Ministry of Lost Souls is one of the best parts of the album. Cut The Dark Eternal Night instead.

icarus4321

Yeah, I would prefer to lose POW and TDEN myself.

ScioPath

Quote from: pogoowner on April 29, 2010, 11:13:51 AM
The Ministry of Lost Souls is one of the best parts of the album. Cut The Dark Eternal Night instead.

alright. first sentence =  :metal
second sentence =  :facepalm: :facepalm: :facepalm: :facepalm: :facepalm: :facepalm: :facepalm:

Sigz

Quote from: pogoowner on April 29, 2010, 11:13:51 AM
The Ministry of Lost Souls is one of the best parts of the album. Cut ITPOE pt. 2 instead.

this


TMOLS is kinda meh too though, just because of the instrumental section.

antigoon

Just get rid of The Reckoning from ITPOE 2 and cut a minute or two off the end of Repentance and you have a much better record.

Mebert78

"The Ministry of Lost Souls" is the best, most beautiful song from the past two albums, in my opinion.  Personally, that would be the last thing I would cut.
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ariich

Quote from: Nick on April 29, 2010, 10:50:28 AM
Didn't you make this thread like, 6 months ago? :lol

Anyway I agree with cutting Ministry, but PoW is awesome.
Wtf, wrong way round.

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Silver Tears

Quote from: ariich on April 29, 2010, 11:52:36 AM
Quote from: Nick on April 29, 2010, 10:50:28 AM
Didn't you make this thread like, 6 months ago? :lol

Anyway I agree with cutting Ministry, but PoW is awesome.
Wtf, wrong way round.

PoW would be the first one to go for me.

xeper

The guitar solo in TMOLS would make a great album.
Seriously, that solo is bitchin'.

OsMosis2259

Remove Prophets of War and then I think it is a much better album. 

antigoon

#21
You guys suck, Prophets of War is one of the best tracks on that record. Whether that says more about my opinion of the record or my opinion of the track I will leave up to you.

LCArenas

Quote from: RandalGraves on April 29, 2010, 10:03:56 AM
I recently did this with Opeth's Watershed (cutting off the last two tracks).
wat

skydivingninja

Quote from: LCArenas on April 29, 2010, 12:21:19 PM
Quote from: RandalGraves on April 29, 2010, 10:03:56 AM
I recently did this with Opeth's Watershed (cutting off the last two tracks).
wat

Srsly this.  Hessian Peel is too amazing to leave off.

As for an EP version of Systematic Chaos, if you took off TDEN and CM too I think it would be better.  Of course, "Forsaken" and "Repentance" are the only songs from SC that I listen to with any regularity.

Cool Chris

#24
Quote from: skydivingninja on April 29, 2010, 12:25:04 PM
As for an EP version of Systematic Chaos, if you took off TDEN and CM too I think it would be better.  

FINALLY! Someone gets it. CM and TDEN are two of the worst songs in their entire catalog. I would rank the below album in top 5 easily, maybe top 4.

I don't particularly like Repentance/PoW where they are, but don't know how else to situate them. I personally like the separation of ItPoE, and love Ministry. Forsaken and PoW are good songs I enjoy as well.


In the Presence of Enemies pt 1
Forsaken
Repentance (up till the apologies start)
Prophets of War
The Ministry of Lost Souls
the Presence of Enemies pt 2 * Damn cut-and-paste *
Maybe the grass is greener on the other side because you're not over there fucking it up.

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hefdaddy42

Quote from: antigoon on April 29, 2010, 12:03:39 PM
You guys suck, Prophets of War is one of the best tracks on that record. Whether that says something about the record or the track I will leave up to you
Well, it certainly says something about you.
Quote from: BlobVanDam on December 11, 2014, 08:19:46 PMHef is right on all things. Except for when I disagree with him. In which case he's probably still right.

antigoon


hefdaddy42

Quote from: BlobVanDam on December 11, 2014, 08:19:46 PMHef is right on all things. Except for when I disagree with him. In which case he's probably still right.

ariich

Quote from: hefdaddy42 on April 29, 2010, 01:03:19 PM
Quote from: antigoon on April 29, 2010, 12:03:39 PM
You guys suck, Prophets of War is one of the best tracks on that record. Whether that says something about the record or the track I will leave up to you
Well, it certainly says something about you.
My thoughts exactly. :lol

Quote from: Buddyhunter1 on May 10, 2023, 05:59:19 PMAriich is a freak, or somehow has more hours in the day than everyone else.
Quote from: TAC on December 21, 2023, 06:05:15 AMI be am boner inducing.

antigoon

Well, at least I edited it so that it makes sense now.

Darkes7

Omg, not another "Systematic Chaos EP" thread...

The album is perfect the way it is. Period.

robwebster

Just so everyone's aware, 79-21 = 58. Which, if nothing else, is proof that this was intentional and the band wanted everyone to nix those songs.

(Even though I quite like POW and TMOLS.)

Setlist Scotty

Quote from: BlobVanDam on November 13, 2015, 07:37:14 PMAs a basic rule, if you hate it, you must solely blame Portnoy. If it's good, then you must downplay MP's contribution to the band as not being important anyway, or claim he's just lying. It's the DTF way.
Quote from: TAC on July 10, 2024, 08:26:41 AMPOW is awesome! :P

kirbywelch92

79-21=58!!!!

FUCKIN' NUGGETS, HOW DO THEY WORK?????