DTF Chat Thread v. OMG Guys it's a new Chat Thread

[BlobVanDam]

That's very cool. I look forward to seeing it.

As usual, I have to remind you not to hold your breath, as I am the master of blobbing.

[King Postwhore]

Like I don't know you baby.

 

[BlobVanDam]

Well I've done 3 out of about 25 shots. That's a start, so shut up!

[King Postwhore]

No U.

By the way I'm blobing right now.  I'm going out a bit later to by a fire pit.

[BlobVanDam]

Does blobbing count on a weekend?

[King Postwhore]

That's the single guy talking. Bitches have honeydo lists.

[ReaperKK]

Morning Reaper!

Finally started some rendering on my video. Turning out alright so far.

I can't wait to see it, I should be on skype next week during work, it's been hectic this week.

[ReaperKK]

Morning.

[Kotowboy]

Reap.

[ReaperKK]

Sup

[BlobVanDam]

Hey.

[ReaperKK]

Hey there blob, I miss our mornign chats

[BlobVanDam]

Me too! I much preferred it when you were blobbing.

[ReaperKK]

I'll be blobbing next month again, plus I'll be bringing my laptop to work so I can work on my game in my downtime.

[BlobVanDam]

Can't wait! I've almost had to resort to doing work instead. It's horrible.

[ReaperKK]

Hey you were on a roll when earlier, I'm looking forward to see the progress made

[BlobVanDam]

Yeah, that roll is long gone. I think I exceeded my limit for the rest of the year.

[Prog Snob]

All 16 seasons of CSI are on Hulu. It looks like I'm booked for a while. 

[BlobVanDam]

Oh god. By the end of that, you'd be permanently brain damaged.

[Prog Snob]

  Why do you say that?

[BlobVanDam]

Because it's incredibly dumb.
Although, I must say the CSI franchise is one of the greatest sci-fi comedies of all time. I used to watch it occasionally just to have a good laugh. I'd always imagine they had an adviser hired on the show who cried himself to sleep every night with their total misinterpretation of how any technology actually works.

[Kotowboy]

Is it stuff like letters on computer screens being 5 inches big when typing ? And nobody ever using the spacebar like in real life ?

[Prog Snob]

A sci-fi fan who absorbs himself in unrealistic plot ideas is calling a show dumb for exaggeration?     Come on. You have to do better than that. Everyone knows how it really works. I suppose it would be better to let each show last the days and weeks it really takes for fingerprints and DNA evidence to go through the system.   

[BlobVanDam]

A sci-fi fan who absorbs himself in unrealistic plot ideas is calling a show dumb for exaggeration?     Come on. You have to do better than that. Everyone knows how it really works. I suppose it would be better to let each show last the days and weeks it really takes for fingerprints and DNA evidence to go through the system.   

Oh that's the least of its problems. Obviously they compress time in all of these crime shows, that's a given. I can even ignore the fact that they're CSI guys who also do the interrogation and field work with guns catching bad guys, again it's just the nature of those procedural crime shows. But the show is just. SO. FUCKING. RETARDED. I mean, the scifi stuff I watch doesn't even pass itself off as the real world, and it's actually based in more accurate real world science that the garbage they make up in CSI.

They do stuff that even makes the cliche "enhance image" cliche look realistic by comparison. I recall one time they had a photo of a guy's ear and ran it through some magic software to generate a height map which they used to print a full 3D ear including the underwrap and used it to match to a custom made ear thingy the guy had.
First of all, a single photo cannot extrapolate 3 dimensional data like that, especially not from that resolution photo. MAYBE with photogrammetry, but the circumstances would have to be ridiculous for that to even work at all let alone work accurately at that scale. Secondly, it showed it generating a simple extruded height displacement map. So how the hell did it generate the obstructed parts of the ear? Hilarious.
And some of those early CSI:NY episodes were absolute gold too. There was one where they had a video, and they caught a guy because of a reflection in the NTSC overscan region that nobody saw. Their "overscan" made the image like 50% wider. If you know about safe frames, overscan is maybe like 5% percent either side. Secondly, they managed to detect a dude's face in a tiny reflection. It's SD NTSC. Ok, so I guess they still heavily relied on the good old "enhance" trope too.
There was another one I can't quite remember where I recall they somehow made a full 3D recreation of the crime scene and triangulated a sniper's position over a long distance from how a horse fell?
So many episodes relied on some made up piece of software as a magical plot device to do some stupidly specialized and impossible task that anyone with a concept of similar real world software would realize is complete fantasy.

At the end of an episode, I always liked to think about the hypothetical court case that would try to get a conviction with the flimsy circumstantial evidence they made up in half of these episodes.

[Kotowboy]

Exhibit A : This 3D printed DNA strand which we got by zooming in a reflection of the suspect in a shop window until we got to DNA level.


Couldn't you just identify the suspect by the reflection in the shop window of his ENTIRE FACE ?


Hmm. I suppose it's possible ?

[Prog Snob]

All you did is expound upon your response. Like I said, everybody knows this is exaggerated for sensationalism. It's like watching a car turn into a talking robot. Nobody takes it seriously. It works for what its intended purpose is. It certainly piqued my curiosity in forensic science and I've read most of the books about realistic cases and whatnot. Beyond all of the public sensationalism, what they can actually realistically do is still fascinating. Have you ever read about the body farm in Tennessee? If that doesn't pique your curiosity about forensics, then nothing will. If it wasn't too late, I'd study forensic anthropology. That was actually my whole plan for going back to school but then the divorce happened and everything else, so c'est la vie.

[BlobVanDam]

All you did is expound upon your response. Like I said, everybody knows this is exaggerated for sensationalism. It's like watching a car turn into a talking robot. Nobody takes it seriously. It works for what its intended purpose is. It certainly piqued my curiosity in forensic science and I've read most of the books about realistic cases and whatnot. Beyond all of the public sensationalism, what they can actually realistically do is still fascinating. Have you ever read about the body farm in Tennessee? If that doesn't pique your curiosity about forensics, then nothing will. If it wasn't too late, I'd study forensic anthropology. That was actually my whole plan for going back to school but then the divorce happened and everything else, so c'est la vie.

Nope haven't read it, but if you've got any links, I always enjoy hearing about solving real cases. I can't remember where I came across it, but I was reading a lengthy article recently about the real process of matching a gun serial number in the US to link people to crimes, and how they're not allowed to actually store that data digitally because Murica, so the manual process is actually a lot of time and dedication with little resources, not only manually looking through hundreds of thousands of physical records, but also figuring out how to find the paper records in other locations. And that's not even the CSI stuff, that's something that's completely taken for granted as trivial in all of these shows (and in an ideal world, probably should be trivial). I also used to love watching all of those shows about real cases they'd show late at night here.

I get your point about CSI, but even fiction aside, it does act under the pretense of present day reality, and often goes beyond exaggeration to the point of fabricating technologies that not only don't exist, but couldn't exist, and it gives a lot of people unrealistic expectations of real CSI, even people who are getting into the field. At least everyone knows the car robots are made up and stupid! But hey, I watched plenty of CSI myself, and it entertained me, albeit for the wrong reasons, so maybe that makes it a somewhat moot point.
The new Macgyver series is equally silly, and it even has one of the guys from CSI in it. Maybe it's contagious?

[Kotowboy]

Reminds me of that Blade Runner inspired episode of Red Dwarf where they zoom in on reflections of reflections to stupid levels

[BlobVanDam]

Reminds me of that Blade Runner inspired episode of Red Dwarf where they zoom in on reflections of reflections to stupid levels

I haven't seen it, but I've seen some other great parodies of that. Futurama of course had the one where they couldn't enhance a photo because it was already at the highest quality, so it was all pixelated. NTSF:SD:SUV also had some great parodies of CSI, including one where they enhanced a photo to the point of seeing the contents of someone's wallet inside their pocket.

[Kotowboy]

Have you seen any Red Dwarf ? It's pretty funny and the early 80s episodes are super cheap. Like '66 Star trek levels.

You can see supposedly metal bulkheads wobble

But it's damn fine comedy. And the current series is one of the best ever.

But it's also VERY English humour so it's not for everyone.

[BlobVanDam]

I've seen snippets of it, and wasn't really into it, likely due to the British humour. I did consider giving it another chance recently with the new series though. Maybe I'll be a bit more receptive to it now than I was in the past.
And dammit, I've still got like 500 episodes of Doctor Who to get through first! I'm not even up to Tom Baker yet!

[Kotowboy]

Better stock up on Jelly babies !

[BlobVanDam]

At least I know enough to get that reference!

[Kotowboy]

I watched DW in Dubai when I was about 7 - 9 .. i loved Tom Baker. i didn't understand regenerating and kept hoping he'd come back.

I really didn't like Colin Baker

I liked Sylester McCoy and was pretty meh about McGann.

[BlobVanDam]

I thought McGann was a good Doctor, but that movie was atrocious.