NFL thread 2014 v. Frankford Yellow Jackets Lay the Pipe on the Dayton Triangles

[KevShmev]

There's the record.  509 touchdown passes.

[El Barto]

So what, does the HoF just throw Brett Favre's record ball in the dumpster now? 

[Accelerando]

Brett Favre is my all time favorite player. If there was any quarterback that I would have break that record, it's Peyton. Congratulations, Mr. Manning. Enjoy that celebratory chicken parm sandwich.

[El Barto]

I still think the Niners are highly overrated, but they've done a fine job of hanging in this game when it looked like they were going to get completely mopped up in the first quarter.

[Skeever]

>Believing the 49'ers are going to the Super Bowl.

Not anymore... LOL

[KevShmev]

Love the kill shot after getting a turnover. 

[Dublagent66]

Hats off to Peyton Manning and DeMarco Murray.  Those guys are beasts!   

[El Barto]

What's amazing is that DeMarco Murray is averaging 130.4 YPG and leads the second place rusher by 371 yds, yet he's still lagging behind Peterson and Dickerson. That really is a helluva record.

[KevShmev]

Thanks for coming, 49ers.  Enjoy your flight back to the coast.

[jingle.boy]

Funny how things change. 2 of Seattle's wins are vs GB and Den. Which teams are better now based on the past 2-3 weeks?

[wolfking]

Good shit having Manning in my fantasy team.  I am understanding why he is the number one pick.

[Dream Team]

And then to get robbed of that fumble recovery.   UGH.

That moron for the Rams almost cost them the game. All he had to do is FALL DOWN and the game is over. It seems so many star athletes can't control their thought process in the heat of the moment.

[bosk1]

...the Niners have looked downright POOR.   

Far from it.  I mean, I wish they could have played it closer last night.  But it wasn't poor play that cost them the game.  NOBODY who follows the team was picking them last night, and it isn't because of poor play.  It is because they linebacking corps and secondary are decimated by injury right now.  Despite that, they have still held up remarkably well against some good pass offenses.  But against Denver's?  It wasn't meant to be.  And on the other side of the ball, for a team like the '9ers that emphasizes the run, with their O-line injuries and the fact that Denver plays the run VERY well, again, this was just a very bad matchup for them right now.  Add in the short week after a MNF game last week, playing on the road, and this game had '9er loss written all over it.  Denver is just a horrible matchup for SF, at least right now at this point in the season.  Thankfully, the '9ers have their bye this week and should start to get some of their people back shortly after that.  But, again, going back to last night, I don't think anyone can honestly say they played poorly, even despite the score.  Getting outplayed by one of the best (if not THE best) teams in the NFL does not necessarily equate to "poor" play.

[TAC]

Casual observation:  Whatever argument someone is trying to make, if it starts out with "at least we....," "Far from it" they probably already lost before they even started.

[jingle.boy]

Casual observation:  Whatever argument someone is trying to make, if it starts out with "at least we....," "Far from it" they probably already lost before they even started.

[KevShmev]

By no means am I putting all of the blame of Ryan Fitzpatrick for the loss tonight, but can you imagine how good the Texans would be if they had a top 10 quarterback?

[black_biff_stadler]

What's amazing is that DeMarco Murray is averaging 130.4 YPG and leads the second place rusher by 371 yds, yet he's still lagging behind Peterson and Dickerson. That really is a helluva record.

I still consider it OJ's record. He got to 2000 (actually 2003) in just 14 games in 1973 which no one else ever has plus his average yardage per game was 143.1 compared to the next best, Jim Brown's 133.1 in 1963, and Eric Dickerson (131.6 in 1984) is only 4th in this stat being also surpassed by Walter Payton (132.3 in 1977.)

At that rate, he'd have ended up with 2289 yards in 16 games and would still own the record by 41 yards even if he were only given a 15-game season to work with.


Here, also, are the total yards gained at the 14-game mark during any of the performances which are in the top 10 single season rushing yardage totals or yards per game averages:



OJ Simpson 2003 (1973)

Jim Brown 1863 (1963)

Walter Payton 1852 (1977)

OJ Simpson 1817 (1975)

Adrian Peterson 1812 (2012)

Terrell Davis 1801 (1998)

Eric Dickerson 1792 (1984)

Jamal Lewis 1747 (2003)

Barry Sanders 1731 (1997)

Chris Johnson 1730 (2009)

Barry Sanders 1721 (1994)

Earl Campbell 1550 (1980)

Ahman Green 1538 (2003)


Of special note is that Jim Brown's 1958 season is in the top 10 for yards per game but I couldn't include it due to pro football reference's site not having game logs for that season. His 1527 yards in 12 games would extrapolate to 1781.5 over 14 games for the sake of argument and would place him 8th on this list.

I know some people like to mention Barry Sanders gaining 2000 yards in the final 14 games of the 1997 season but that's a pretty big mulligan for the first two games of the year where he gained a paltry 53 yards.

[yorost]

By no means am I putting all of the blame of Ryan Fitzpatrick for the loss tonight, but can you imagine how good the Texans would be if they had a top 10 quarterback?

I can imagine a team $10-$15 million beyond the cap, yes.

[KevShmev]

Not all top 10 quarterbacks cost that much towards the cap.  See: Russell Wilson.

Regarding 2,000 yards, it's still scary to think about how many yards Terrell Davis would have ran for in 1998 had he not sat out a handful of 4th quarters cause the Broncos were blowing their opponents out.

[yorost]

So?

[black_biff_stadler]

Regarding Kev or me?

[KevShmev]

Post-Week 7 Top 10 Power Rankings
1. Denver - after demolishing the 49ers, the deserve to edge in to 1st place.
2. Dallas - good tough home win against a division opponent.
3. Arizona - still the best team no one is talking about.
4. Indianapolis - this team, following a shutout of the Bengals, is all of a sudden looking very scary.
5. San Diego - damaging home loss, especially when you see how tough their last six weeks are.
6. Philadelphia - still don't know what to really make of this team.
7. Green Bay - Aaron Rodgers is playing out of his mind.
8. Baltimore - Need to win at Cincinnati this week to avoid getting swept by them.
9. New England - Defense looks very leaky, but Brady is showing he's not done yet.
10. Detroit - Gutsy comeback win, and if they can stay in contention till Megatron gets back...

Trending up: Buffalo, KC and Miami (even though all three have 8-8 or 7-9 written all over them)
Trending down: Seattle, Houston and NY Giants
Bottom 3: Tampa Bay, Jacksonville and Oakland
 
Also:

MVP update time!  This is what my top 5 would be right now for MVP of the NFL:

1a. Peyton Manning - seems boring, but is once again the best player now that the early season surges are calming down.
1b. Aaron Rodgers - ditto that.
3. Philip Rivers - still playing at an MVP-level, but his team losing at home to KC hurts his candidacy a bit.
4. Demarco Murray - 7 straight 100-yard games to the start the season?  WOW.
5. Andrew Luck - quietly living up to the hype.

Watt drops out, following the Texans dropping to 3-4.

[hefdaddy42]

Despite the Panthers completely losing their identity and just generally being a WTF team, I have thus far really enjoyed this season.

[yorost]

I enjoyed their last game, too.

[black_biff_stadler]

Anybody got a take on my post about OJ and the single season rushing record?

[KevShmev]

Anybody got a take on my post about OJ and the single season rushing record?

I know it's different cause RBs doesn't catch as many balls back then, but OJ had 2,073 total yards (rushing and receiving) in 14 games, which is 148 yards from scrimmage per game (it would come to 2,368 extrapolated over 16 games).  Pretty crazy total, but one that has been topped by four RBs since:

LaDaianian Tomlinson
Tiki Barber
Marshall Faulk
Chris Johnson

So, while I get saying OJ is the only true 2,000-yard rusher, since he did it in less games, it can easily be argued that it isn't the best season a RB has ever had.

[black_biff_stadler]

I wasn't trying to imply he was the only true 2000-yard RB with the Sanders comparison. I only brought that up as a preemptive strike since I've heard talking heads on sports shows throw it out there like it has any shred of legitimacy to it. Had Barry gotten more than 2003 in the first 14 games of 1997, that angle would be far more valid.

But yes, I do give credence to your counter argument (for now...)

[KevShmev]

In fact, just for hell of it, and because I am curious now, let's look at each of those five seasons in regards to yards per touch and scores:

2009 Chris Johnson - 2,509 yards from scrimmage on 408 touches = 6.15 yards per touch, with 16 touchdowns
1999 Marshall Faulk - 2,429 yards from scrimmage on 340 touches = 7.15 yards per touch, with 12 touchdowns
2005 Tiki Barber - 2,390 yards from scrimmage on 411 touches = 5.82 yards per touch, with 11 touchdowns
2003 L. Tomlinson - 2,370 yards from scrimmage on 413 touches = 5.74 yards per touch, with 17 touchdowns
1973 O.J. Simpson - 2,073 yards from scrimmage on 338 touches = 6.13 yards per touch, with 12 touchdowns

Interestingly, his 2,000-yard season probably wasn't his best season:

1975 O.J. Simpson - 2,242 yards from scrimmage on 357 touches = 6.28 yards per touch, with 23 touchdowns

So really, while Faulk in '99 bested his yards per touch by a lot, Simpson scored almost twice as many touchdowns, so you could almost argue that Simpson's 1975 season was the best season a RB ever had.

[black_biff_stadler]

And so I shall.

[Skeever]

Not all top 10 quarterbacks cost that much towards the cap.  See: Russell Wilson.

What's your point? Of course, not every team drafts a superstar QB in the 3rd round 

Maybe it's time they throw Tom Savage in and see what happens 

[King Postwhore]

I'll top your 3rd round with a QB from the 7th round.

[Skeever]

lol

To be fair, the Texans should have addressed the QB situation better in the offseason. Lots of opportunities for them in the draft, too. Of course I might not be saying that if Clowney were playing, who knows. Hindsight is 20/20.

[King Postwhore]

I don't think the free agent market and the draft was that strong going into this year.  It's obvious that the QB's they have now are stopgaps.  They do need to move on one soon though.  No easy to do.

[Skeever]

Yeah but at no.1 they could have had their pick. They could have traded down and maybe even got two really good players. QB is obviously their biggest need.

[jammindude]

So.....Colt McCoy???