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Re: Dream Theater self titled album discussion - COVER ART/TRACK LIST on p. 5
« Reply #5810 on: August 25, 2013, 10:23:24 AM »
Completed pigeon picture. =)


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Re: Dream Theater self titled album discussion - COVER ART/TRACK LIST on p. 5
« Reply #5811 on: August 25, 2013, 10:24:59 AM »
And just to the right is the Drive In Theatre with the giant ass car
I just don't understand what they were trying to achieve with any part of the song, either individually or as a whole. You know what? It's the Platypus of Dream Theater songs. That bill doesn't go with that tail, or that strange little furry body, or those webbed feet, and oh god why does it have venomous spurs!? And then you find out it lays eggs too. The difference is that the Platypus is somehow functional despite being a crazy mishmash or leftover animal pieces

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Re: Dream Theater self titled album discussion - COVER ART/TRACK LIST on p. 5
« Reply #5812 on: August 25, 2013, 10:41:14 AM »
Completed pigeon picture. =)



My favorite, this one is pretty cool comparing to the last ones. Illumination Theory, perhaps?

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Re: Dream Theater self titled album discussion - COVER ART/TRACK LIST on p. 5
« Reply #5813 on: August 25, 2013, 10:54:22 AM »
That one pigeon in the top right section - the colours look really off ???

If it is for illumination theory - maybe that one pigeon is being lit up by the old woman with the majestic bag.

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Re: Dream Theater self titled album discussion - COVER ART/TRACK LIST on p. 5
« Reply #5814 on: August 25, 2013, 11:00:49 AM »
I wonder what that glow around her head is about. Or is it a lens flare?

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Re: Dream Theater self titled album discussion - COVER ART/TRACK LIST on p. 5
« Reply #5815 on: August 25, 2013, 11:08:05 AM »
I think it's a Catholic style halo. Like this:

So probably for Illumination Theory.
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Re: Dream Theater self titled album discussion - COVER ART/TRACK LIST on p. 5
« Reply #5816 on: August 25, 2013, 11:12:41 AM »
The big pigeon in the lower left section looks like it's been sucked out of existence by a conveniently placed black hole :D
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Re: Dream Theater self titled album discussion - COVER ART/TRACK LIST on p. 5
« Reply #5817 on: August 25, 2013, 11:49:08 AM »
When I googled "Clip art for Dream Theater brand bird feed" that image was the first to come up.  Hugh Syme is lazy as hell and this is a disgrace!  :facepalm:

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Re: Dream Theater self titled album discussion - COVER ART/TRACK LIST on p. 5
« Reply #5818 on: August 25, 2013, 11:59:38 AM »
When I googled "Clip art for Dream Theater brand bird feed" that image was the first to come up.  Hugh Syme is lazy as hell and this is a disgrace!  :facepalm:

Where? I can't find it.

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« Reply #5819 on: August 25, 2013, 12:09:31 PM »
When I googled "Clip art for Dream Theater brand bird feed" that image was the first to come up.  Hugh Syme is lazy as hell and this is a disgrace!  :facepalm:

Where? I can't find it.

My imagination. 

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« Reply #5820 on: August 25, 2013, 12:16:30 PM »
When I googled "Clip art for Dream Theater brand bird feed" that image was the first to come up.  Hugh Syme is lazy as hell and this is a disgrace!  :facepalm:

That's a pretty weird search string :lol


And I agree with Kotowboy, the bird in the top right doesn't fit color wise.

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Re: Dream Theater self titled album discussion - COVER ART/TRACK LIST on p. 5
« Reply #5821 on: August 25, 2013, 12:30:42 PM »
Which one? ???

There are two types of pigeon in that photo, both of which appear multiple times.

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Re: Dream Theater self titled album discussion - COVER ART/TRACK LIST on p. 5
« Reply #5822 on: August 25, 2013, 12:56:32 PM »
Now we are complaining that the pigeons colors are off?!


You are are racist to pigeons because they all should have the same colors. :lol
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« Reply #5823 on: August 25, 2013, 12:57:40 PM »
Rich, I bet you mods can wait for this one month to pass.
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Re: Dream Theater self titled album discussion - COVER ART/TRACK LIST on p. 5
« Reply #5824 on: August 25, 2013, 12:58:15 PM »
Unless they're purple. To hell with purple pigeons!
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Re: Dream Theater self titled album discussion - COVER ART/TRACK LIST on p. 5
« Reply #5825 on: August 25, 2013, 12:58:23 PM »
Completed pigeon picture. =)


What are you guys doing to get all the pieces to blend together seamlessly?  Seriously, just photoshop?

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Re: Dream Theater self titled album discussion - COVER ART/TRACK LIST on p. 5
« Reply #5826 on: August 25, 2013, 12:59:41 PM »
Unless they're purple. To hell with purple pigeons!

Them grape bastards!!! :lol
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Re: Dream Theater self titled album discussion - COVER ART/TRACK LIST on p. 5
« Reply #5827 on: August 25, 2013, 01:13:15 PM »
Completed pigeon picture. =)

*snip*
What are you guys doing to get all the pieces to blend together seamlessly?  Seriously, just photoshop?

Nope, not even that. I used Paint.  ;)

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Re: Dream Theater self titled album discussion - COVER ART/TRACK LIST on p. 5
« Reply #5828 on: August 25, 2013, 01:14:41 PM »
Completed pigeon picture. =)

*snip*
What are you guys doing to get all the pieces to blend together seamlessly?  Seriously, just photoshop?

Nope, not even that. I used Paint.  ;)
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Re: Dream Theater self titled album discussion - COVER ART/TRACK LIST on p. 5
« Reply #5829 on: August 25, 2013, 01:32:28 PM »
I don't know about anyone else, but this time around I'm glad we're getting artwork snippets that can be coalesced into full pictures instead of song snippets (unless those are coming in early September?) I really want to listen to this album unspoiled, as it were. I have an idea of the sound of the album with TEI... That's all I need until the album comes out. I know if audio snippets are released I won't be able to resist.
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Re: Dream Theater self titled album discussion - COVER ART/TRACK LIST on p. 5
« Reply #5830 on: August 25, 2013, 04:58:59 PM »
The website said this album has a 28 page booklet, which is pretty thick. With 9 tracks, and only 7 that need lyrics printed, there might be pages of just artwork  :tup

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Re: Dream Theater self titled album discussion - COVER ART/TRACK LIST on p. 5
« Reply #5831 on: August 25, 2013, 05:08:51 PM »
The website said this album has a 28 page booklet, which is pretty thick. With 9 tracks, and only 7 that need lyrics printed, there might be pages of just artwork  :tup

Well, maybe 8, if they need a 2 page spread for IT lyrics. It is a longer song, after all.
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Re: Dream Theater self titled album discussion - COVER ART/TRACK LIST on p. 5
« Reply #5832 on: August 25, 2013, 05:49:09 PM »
As there are several DT fans who bitch about everything, we're probably get some OMG WHY DO THEY SHOW POVERTY PORNOY WOULDN'T LET THAT HAPPEN DURM GOD.

That's one cool piece of art, though. Nevertheless, I think I've seen hundreds of cooler DT fan arts on the internet and although it's very unlikely, I'd love the idea of this being the last Hugh Syme Dream Theater album.
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Re: Dream Theater self titled album discussion - COVER ART/TRACK LIST on p. 5
« Reply #5833 on: August 25, 2013, 06:02:49 PM »
While I enjoy Hugh Syme's art, it is true that I've seen some really awesome, really impressive stuff from DT fans. I think for their next album, it would be really cool if DT held a competition for graphic artists to design their album art, including the cover and the booklet, based on the song titles alone. And then they can choose winners and have that be the booklet art. And that way, they can have multiple winners too, if someone designs the best cover, they use that cover. If someone designs the best or most suitable art for a given song, they'll choose that. And maybe hand out some kind of award to the winners.
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Re: Dream Theater self titled album discussion - COVER ART/TRACK LIST on p. 5
« Reply #5834 on: August 25, 2013, 06:27:07 PM »
Woman using a Veil, so obviously is the artwork for "Behind the Veil". :P
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Re: Dream Theater self titled album discussion - COVER ART/TRACK LIST on p. 5
« Reply #5835 on: August 25, 2013, 07:46:00 PM »
Wow. Great image. This one really impressed me.  :metal
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« Reply #5836 on: August 25, 2013, 07:53:59 PM »
While I enjoy Hugh Syme's art, it is true that I've seen some really awesome, really impressive stuff from DT fans. I think for their next album, it would be really cool if DT held a competition for graphic artists to design their album art, including the cover and the booklet, based on the song titles alone. And then they can choose winners and have that be the booklet art. And that way, they can have multiple winners too, if someone designs the best cover, they use that cover. If someone designs the best or most suitable art for a given song, they'll choose that. And maybe hand out some kind of award to the winners.

I think the words to best describe that idea are "Pandoras Box"

Can you imagine the legalities of that and having to verify that they didn't use any copywritten imagery on top of the typical fan bitching that happens. 

You are right though that there has been some cool stuff and it would be cool if it worked out like you described

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Re: Dream Theater self titled album discussion - COVER ART/TRACK LIST on p. 5
« Reply #5837 on: August 25, 2013, 07:58:37 PM »
When I Googled that quote I got nothing that shows the image we're talking about.

When I googled "Clip art for Dream Theater brand bird feed" that image was the first to come up.  Hugh Syme is lazy as hell and this is a disgrace!  :facepalm:
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Re: Dream Theater self titled album discussion - COVER ART/TRACK LIST on p. 5
« Reply #5838 on: August 25, 2013, 08:10:22 PM »
dunno if anyone've already posted it https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4vS5vUJ8X_A

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Re: Dream Theater self titled album discussion - COVER ART/TRACK LIST on p. 5
« Reply #5839 on: August 25, 2013, 08:15:15 PM »
When I Googled that quote I got nothing that shows the image we're talking about.

When I googled "Clip art for Dream Theater brand bird feed" that image was the first to come up.  Hugh Syme is lazy as hell and this is a disgrace!  :facepalm:

Are people really not getting the joke here? I guess it's better to use sarcasm green even for the obvious stuff.

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« Reply #5840 on: August 25, 2013, 08:16:01 PM »
Honestly, DT needs to get better art-work than this. I feel like they could have gotten a very talented student at a prestigious art school to design something far better than an old gypsy woman feeding pigeons and a picture of a kid playing in the sand at the Jersey Shore with an empty billboard in the background.

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« Reply #5841 on: August 25, 2013, 08:16:20 PM »
dunno if anyone've already posted it https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4vS5vUJ8X_A

Yeah, I think it's been posted. Pretty good interview.

It sounds like he's insinuating that DT is trying to move back to where they started and be a little bit more sonically diverse and more progressive.  I'd love it if they did that.

ADTOE moves in that direction, but not very much.  I'd say it's only 25% of the way there.  I don't think it's really a ton different from SC and BCSL.  ADTOE was still too heavy for me.  Their release of The Enemy Inside, though, suggests more of the same sound, so I'm not sure what will actually happen.  I'd like to hear a sound more reminiscent of the last 3 tracks of Awake.  I might be in the minority here on that one, though.
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« Reply #5842 on: August 25, 2013, 08:18:20 PM »
dunno if anyone've already posted it https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4vS5vUJ8X_A

Yeah, I think it's been posted. Pretty good interview.

It sounds like he's insinuating that DT is trying to move back to where they started and be a little bit more sonically diverse and more progressive.  I'd love it if they did that.

ADTOE moves in that direction, but not very much.  I'd say it's only 25% of the way there.  I don't think it's really a ton different from SC and BCSL.  ADTOE was still too heavy for me.  Their release of The Enemy Inside, though, suggests more of the same sound, so I'm not sure what will actually happen.  I'd like to hear a sound more reminiscent of the last 3 tracks of Awake.  I might be in the minority here on that one, though.

You honestly don't think ADToE is that different from SC or BCSL? SC in particular sounds NOTHING, zero, zilch, nada like ADToE. And I fail to see how TEI bears any resemblance to any song on ADToE except BMU....at all.
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Re: Dream Theater self titled album discussion - COVER ART/TRACK LIST on p. 5
« Reply #5843 on: August 25, 2013, 08:29:35 PM »
I think the words to best describe that idea are "Pandoras Box"

Can you imagine the legalities of that and having to verify that they didn't use any copywritten imagery on top of the typical fan bitching that happens. 

You are right though that there has been some cool stuff and it would be cool if it worked out like you described

Well, maybe the details need to be thought out a little more, my point is there are a lot of talented artists on the net, and I think fans would appreciate the idea that DT is getting them involved in the actual album. I think something like that would be a great move for publicity.
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Re: Dream Theater self titled album discussion - COVER ART/TRACK LIST on p. 5
« Reply #5844 on: August 25, 2013, 08:33:08 PM »
You honestly don't think ADToE is that different from SC or BCSL? SC in particular sounds NOTHING, zero, zilch, nada like ADToE. And I fail to see how TEI bears any resemblance to any song on ADToE except BMU....at all.

I said it's different, but not that different.

TEI is still a "balls to the wall," mostly palm-muted guitar driven kind of sound.  I think it's a really well-put together kind of song, and I don't mind when DT does this.  I think TOT was a very good album.  I'd just like to see more sonic diversity, like on Awake.
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