For starters, I stand corrected on what I posted earlier - I guess Marco wasn't just joking around. And I'll admit that I've lost a little respect for the man. But honestly I'd chalk it up to more of a misunderstanding than anything else - as others have pointed out in this thread, he was probably understanding things one way, while the band and/or management understood them in a different way.
But there's something that's been bugging me, reading this thread: SnakeEyes, sorry dude but you come off like an immature hot-head, even if you've been a fan since 1993.
Yeah, especially a douchey "nom nom" shirt. I don't know what it is, but people who wear shirts like that piss me off.
Really? Would you been pissed at Mangini if he had been the one to wear that shirt? Would you have been pissed if Marco had become DT's new drummer? If that pisses you off, I'd hate to see how ballistic you'll get if someone does something far worse than wear a cookie monster T-shirt. Sheesh.
It's pretty dickish to waste DT's time and money if they didn't even want the job and just did it "for fun" or "because they asked me too". I'm sure word get's around quick in the drumming world, so I seriously doubt they didn't know DT was serious about finding a new drummer, and that that's what these auditions were for. If Marco didn't want his footage shown, he shouldn't have agreed to sit in the make up chair, the interview chair, and in front of the damn cameras.
YOU WIN. Best post of the thread.
Seriously SnakeEyes, read or re-read Reneranucci's post regarding going on job interviews - that is what Marco essentially did. He didn't have plans to join the band, but thought he'd give it a shot because maybe things will be much better than he anticipated. That's all. Nothing more, nothing less.
Exactly. I think DT filled up the ranks quite a bit with drummers they knew would make for interesting watching, but not really being that good a fit for Dream Theater anyway. Pez and Donati were the obvious examples I thought. And Lang.
Rumbo, been agreeing with you in almost all your posts in this thread, but I think you are WAAAYYYY off on this one. I think it's as clear and simple as the band stated - they searched the internet and forums to see what drummers names came up repeatedly, and reached out to them to see if they'd be interesting in auditioning for the band. I doubt it had anything to do with them just looking for some guys that would look good on the documentary - if they did, why not choose some crazy jazz drummers or maybe the "drummer at the wrong gig?" - that would have made things interesting on screen.
Just because some guys don't look like they'd fit in the band after watching the documentary doesn't mean that DT saw it this way when contacting them, nor would they have cared - no one would know who worked out and who wouldn't until they actually auditioned. Obviously they reached out to these guys, not only because they thought they could play DT's back catalog, but because they thought these guys could reasonably be the next drummer of DT. Let's also remember that a lot can be done in editing the documentary to make it look boring or make it look interesting - I'm sure there were plenty of clips of each drummer that were not as impressive/flashy that weren't used because they wouldn't have been eye-catching to the viewer.
I have a drummer friend who's close to Marco, and he was under the impression that DT offered Marco the gig, but he "preferred being on his own," so declined. I don't think that's true - after seeing this I'm starting to think it was Marco's way of covering up his sour grapes.
Sorry Stin - gotta agree with Rumbo on this one. This isn't Marco's way of covering up for his sour grapes. When I spoke with Marco (as mentioned earlier in the thread), we got to talking about Mangini being chosen and what happened, and from what he told me, it sounded like he would have gotten the gig if he wanted it. But he said that his heart wasn't really into it, that he didn't know if he could make the commitment; he also said that seeing how excited Mangini was in wanting the gig, figured that Mangini should be the one to have it.
He also mention that he, JP and Jordan had plans to do some sort of project (and by that he specified a CD) together - had he not impressed them enough, why did the guys agree to do some other project with him? There's no word of them doing that with *any* of the others that auditioned. Let's not forget the comments James made about Marco in the documentary: "I was speechless watching this guy." Also he said "That was...the most incredible...by far." and JP responding "Yeah, easily." So I think that's enough evidence to back up what Marco said, even if the end of the documentary suggests otherwise (that Mangini was the clear winner from the beginning).
And for the record (not that it matters), I was bummed when Marco didn't get the gig, but having seen 3 shows with Mangini now, as well as how well Mangini has fit into the band and his positive attitude in everything he has said, I can't imagine Marco being there. I'm glad Mangini got picked in the end. I just hope Marco still gets to do that project with JP and Jordan - if they do, I'm sure it will be mind-blowing!