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Offline alirocker08

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Re: Black Clouds
« Reply #35 on: July 01, 2011, 04:38:05 AM »
I find that all the finest albums improve with age. BC&SL is hardly my favourite DT album, but I'm not going to just throw it away!
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Re: Black Clouds
« Reply #36 on: July 01, 2011, 04:40:57 AM »
Quote from: alirocker08 on July 01, 2011, 04:38:05 AM
I find that all the finest albums improve with age.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!
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Quote from: TheGreatPretender on July 03, 2011, 07:48:04 PM
Of course Dream Theater isn't that good. Good music is obviously about 3 minute pop songs and catchy hooks.
Dream Theater aren't that good. Neither was Beethoven, or Mozart, or Bach. Pfft, 20 minute epics. Who needs that?

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Re: Black Clouds
« Reply #37 on: July 01, 2011, 05:14:01 AM »
Quote from: Heaven Outcry Angel on July 01, 2011, 04:40:57 AM
Quote from: alirocker08 on July 01, 2011, 04:38:05 AM
I find that all the finest albums improve with age.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!

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Re: Black Clouds
« Reply #38 on: July 01, 2011, 05:44:42 AM »
Quote from: ACID_FOX on July 01, 2011, 05:14:01 AM
Quote from: Heaven Outcry Angel on July 01, 2011, 04:40:57 AM
Quote from: alirocker08 on July 01, 2011, 04:38:05 AM
I find that all the finest albums improve with age.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!

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It's a reference to The Count of Tuscany.

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Re: Black Clouds
« Reply #39 on: July 01, 2011, 05:52:28 AM »
Shes a clever girl..... ;) ;)
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Quote from: TheGreatPretender on July 03, 2011, 07:48:04 PM
Of course Dream Theater isn't that good. Good music is obviously about 3 minute pop songs and catchy hooks.
Dream Theater aren't that good. Neither was Beethoven, or Mozart, or Bach. Pfft, 20 minute epics. Who needs that?

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Re: Black Clouds
« Reply #40 on: July 01, 2011, 05:54:56 AM »
I only ever listen to TCOT from BC&SL now. Initially quite liked it with some misgivings. Those misgivings grew stronger over time, unfortunately. Had some great potential but too many wince moments and mediocrity, imo. I don't get why everyone rates Wither, for example. A "moving" ballad about struggling to write good lyrics expressed through, er, stiff wooden lyrics. Touches me deeply.  :tdwn

Very excited about On The Backs Of Angels, though.  :)
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Re: Black Clouds
« Reply #41 on: July 01, 2011, 05:55:27 AM »
No, I just have moments of awesomeness :')
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Re: Black Clouds
« Reply #42 on: July 01, 2011, 05:59:33 AM »
BC&SL is a great album.
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Re: Black Clouds
« Reply #43 on: July 01, 2011, 06:03:09 AM »
I still like BC&SL, although when I ranked the albums yesterday for another thread I found that it had gone down a few pegs since my last ranking. It has a few great tracks (ANTR, Wither, TBOT, TCOT) and a few that I don't really care for (TSF and AROP). Plus that artwork never was a favourite of mine, ADTOE is a step up from that IMHO.
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Re: Black Clouds
« Reply #44 on: July 01, 2011, 08:25:36 AM »
What a silly thread.

BRB throwing all of my Neal Morse CDs away because they aren't as good as his new one. :lol :lol
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Re: Black Clouds
« Reply #45 on: July 01, 2011, 08:39:26 AM »
Quote from: alirocker08 on July 01, 2011, 04:38:05 AM
I find that all the finest albums improve with age. BC&SL is hardly my favourite DT album, but I'm not going to just throw it away!

This.  I'm not a huge fan of the album myself, but I'll always own everything these guys release.  And yes I may find myself enjoying this record more than I do now sometime down the road.  That's the beauty of DT!
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Re: Black Clouds
« Reply #46 on: July 01, 2011, 09:33:20 AM »
Quote from: TheGreatPretender on July 01, 2011, 01:59:19 AM
What about the saint behind the altar?

Okay, seriously, on topic, that does suck though. Count of Tuscany is my favorite song on that album.

 :rollin

I'm proud to have derailed this topic for a bit there.
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Re: Black Clouds
« Reply #47 on: July 01, 2011, 09:36:30 AM »
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Re: Black Clouds
« Reply #48 on: July 01, 2011, 09:41:40 AM »
is there a combined postfail limit to stop heaven outcry angel from posting? dont wanna be mean to noobs, but hes trolling all over



anyway, i would never discard a DT album. BC&SL was not bad at all
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Re: Black Clouds
« Reply #49 on: July 01, 2011, 10:02:03 AM »
I was definitley happy that the lyrics to OtBoA were a return to more esoteric subject matter. bCSL was awful in the lyrics department IMO, which is homestly one of the reasons I don't. regard it highly.  Any single line of tue new tune is better than the whole lyrical content of TCOT, ANTR, TBOT, and Wither. I know - WAIT A MINUTE MAN that was OUT OF NOWHERE LIKE A BULLET IN THE NIGHT!! /cheesy
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Re: Black Clouds
« Reply #50 on: July 01, 2011, 11:58:44 AM »
I am actually enjoying The Shattered Fortress now.
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Re: Black Clouds
« Reply #51 on: July 01, 2011, 12:03:40 PM »
Quote from: ScioPath on July 01, 2011, 02:09:14 AM
I don't like BC&SL.
This.
IDK why, I just don't care for it.
Which is funny, because that's what's on the only DT T-shirt I have. Lol. But my mom bought it for me, so she didn't know :D
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Re: Black Clouds
« Reply #52 on: July 01, 2011, 12:14:40 PM »
All the tracks are too long and then there are two awkward commercial singles tucked in the middle. That's not to say I dislike the album, but that in conjunction with the lyrics makes it a bit difficult to listen to.
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Re: Black Clouds
« Reply #53 on: July 01, 2011, 12:30:02 PM »
It's Dream Theater. There is no such thing as "Too Long".
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Re: Black Clouds
« Reply #54 on: July 01, 2011, 12:30:32 PM »
I like each individual song from BC&SL but, weirdly, I really don't like listening to them as a part of an album. There's something that doesn't gel them together very well for me.
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Re: Black Clouds
« Reply #55 on: July 01, 2011, 12:33:04 PM »
The new song is better than everything on BC&SL except for TCOT, but that alone is reason enough not to throw it out.

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Re: Black Clouds
« Reply #56 on: July 01, 2011, 02:29:21 PM »
Quote from: hefdaddy42 on July 01, 2011, 09:36:30 AM
Quote from: Heaven Outcry Angel on July 01, 2011, 02:09:56 AM
Quote from: ScioPath on July 01, 2011, 02:09:14 AM
I don't like BC&SL.

did anyone ask??
Was this necessary?
Me or him?


HOA: I don't think there's any need to get defensive. I shared my opinion in a subjective, nonthreatening, (and granted, terse) way. This is a thread about BC&SL, so you can expect opinions to run both ways.
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Re: Black Clouds
« Reply #57 on: July 01, 2011, 02:30:05 PM »
Primarily him.
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Re: Black Clouds
« Reply #58 on: July 01, 2011, 02:45:31 PM »
No. BC&SL is a good album. Even if it wasn't, why throw it away? It's a part of my collection. Plus, you've only heard one song. Don't you think you should listen to the whole album first before making such a decision?
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Re: Black Clouds
« Reply #59 on: July 01, 2011, 02:46:05 PM »
edit: wrong thread lol
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Re: Black Clouds
« Reply #60 on: July 01, 2011, 03:09:17 PM »
I still like BC&SL. It's holding power is a lot higher than SC's was two years after it came out. However, I did go back to listen to SC the other day and it wasn't TOO too bad, but I've listened to BC&SL a LOT more than SC in the 2 years since it was released.

I am still highly looking forward to ADTOE, though, and I expect it to be an album that's got variety (like 8VM and SC) but has stellar playing (like IAW and SFAM) and great production (like FII and most of BC&SL).

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Re: Black Clouds
« Reply #61 on: July 01, 2011, 03:11:54 PM »
ADTOE will most likely kick the asses of ToT, 8vm, BC&SL, and that other album, but I still love all DT albums and there's no reason to dump any of them.  :heart
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Re: Black Clouds
« Reply #62 on: July 01, 2011, 05:39:23 PM »
Quote from: FlyingBIZKIT on July 01, 2011, 05:44:42 AM
Quote from: ACID_FOX on July 01, 2011, 05:14:01 AM
Quote from: Heaven Outcry Angel on July 01, 2011, 04:40:57 AM
Quote from: alirocker08 on July 01, 2011, 04:38:05 AM
I find that all the finest albums improve with age.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!

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It's a reference to The Count of Tuscany.

" All the finest wines, IMPROOOOVE with AGE!"

 :yarr

O I C.
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Re: Black Clouds
« Reply #63 on: July 01, 2011, 05:43:22 PM »
Quote from: Storm Rider on June 30, 2011, 11:19:17 PM
If someone's gonna discard the Delux Edition of BC&SL, PM me.  ;D
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Re: Black Clouds
« Reply #64 on: July 01, 2011, 06:40:49 PM »
Quote from: KevShmev on July 01, 2011, 08:25:36 AM
BRB throwing all of my Neal Morse CDs away because they aren't as good as his new one. :lol :lol

Bosk, sorry for the off-topic...

Kev, you really think T2 is his best to date?
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Re: Black Clouds
« Reply #65 on: July 01, 2011, 06:46:27 PM »
Quote from: ACID_FOX on July 01, 2011, 05:39:23 PM
Quote from: FlyingBIZKIT on July 01, 2011, 05:44:42 AM
Quote from: ACID_FOX on July 01, 2011, 05:14:01 AM
Quote from: Heaven Outcry Angel on July 01, 2011, 04:40:57 AM
Quote from: alirocker08 on July 01, 2011, 04:38:05 AM
I find that all the finest albums improve with age.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!

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It's a reference to The Count of Tuscany.

" All the finest wines, IMPROOOOVE with AGE!"

 :yarr

O I C.

 :tup
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Re: Black Clouds
« Reply #66 on: July 01, 2011, 06:47:48 PM »
It's a pretty bad album.
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Re: Black Clouds
« Reply #67 on: July 01, 2011, 07:22:01 PM »
Quote from: Ravenheart on July 01, 2011, 06:47:48 PM
It's a pretty bad album.
explanation warranted
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Re: Black Clouds
« Reply #68 on: July 01, 2011, 07:25:34 PM »
Quote from: MetropolisxPt1 on July 01, 2011, 07:22:01 PM
Quote from: Ravenheart on July 01, 2011, 06:47:48 PM
It's a pretty bad album.
explanation warranted
I don't care for the lyrics, which seem to be there just for the sake of being there--ANTR and TCoT's lyrics are just embarrassing. The melodies, aside from a select few in TBoT (such as JP's guitar solo) don't stick in my head. The conclusion to the AA suite (which I was never fond of anyway) lacked any imagination and came off as very anticlimactic. Jordan's keyboard solos are as tasteless as ever.
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Re: Black Clouds
« Reply #69 on: July 01, 2011, 07:29:22 PM »
I just don't understand. Give Black Clouds one more chance
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