Dream Theater in God of War III

[antigoon]

RAW IS WAR.

[Dark Master Of Sin]

I just realized...

Raw Dog...

God of War...

[RobD]

[cookienut]

LORD OF MOAR

[ReaPsTA]

Djent?

[antigoon]

The noise of a low-tuned chugging guitar.

I think?

[STEVETHEATER]

Wow!... different... very Raw indeed. But I like it.

[ddtonfire]

Djent?

https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=djent

[emindead]

Honestly, this song is not that good. Brutal riffs after brutal riffs that aren't that good.

[Perpetual Change]

Honestly, this song is not that good. Brutal riffs after brutal riffs that aren't that good.

Kratos disagrees with you, and thinks it would be awesome to slaughter the hordes to this music.

[emindead]

Because brutality seems not to have a direction?

[pogoowner]

Honestly, this song is not that good. Brutal riffs after brutal riffs that aren't that good.

I agree. And at times, the keyboards don't really fit very well with the whole "brutal" style.

[Genowyn]

It's too bad they had to take the samples out. Imagine just "AAAAAREEEEEEEEEES!" coming in at the end 

[briang]

I can maybe see someone who has no exposure to djent liking Petrucci's down tuned riffs, but seriously all of those type of riffs are nothing new. The ones in this song aren't even all that creative.

I think it's about time DT experimented with more djent than just the opening of The Mirror (especially considering JP's nephew is in THE up-and-coming djent band) The riffs are really cool, especially cause they catch you off-guard at first. Finally JP uses drop-A on his 7's!

I completely disagree. DT should never have "experimented" with djent in the first place. This song is proof of that. I don't really think "The Mirror" is a good example of djent.

[ddtonfire]

I can maybe see someone who has no exposure to djent liking Petrucci's down tuned riffs, but seriously all of those type of riffs are nothing new. The ones in this song aren't even all that creative.

I think it's about time DT experimented with more djent than just the opening of The Mirror (especially considering JP's nephew is in THE up-and-coming djent band) The riffs are really cool, especially cause they catch you off-guard at first. Finally JP uses drop-A on his 7's!

I completely disagree. DT should never have "experimented" with djent in the first place. This song is proof of that. I don't really think "The Mirror" is a good example of djent.

The beginning is. Just listen to the guitar. It practically screams the onomatopoeia.
Why shouldn't DT experiment with djent?

[hefdaddy42]

"Djent" is a stupid fucking phrase.  Can we please stop talking about it?

[Perpetual Change]

Because brutality seems not to have a direction?

They made the song for a videogame soundtrack man.  What's so hard to understand about that? There's no need for the kind of direction you're asking for. Of course it's not going to be a traditional kind of DT song.

DT were asked to put a song together for the GoW soundtrack and wrote a song that would probably be fantastic during one of the games' fight sequences.  They really got the job done.  Too bad it probably won't be in the game, as it suits the idea of a song for a video game perfectly.  I'm willing to bet it's the best song on the EP.

[Shadow2222]

I personally think this is by far the best instrumental they have done.

[ddtonfire]

"Djent" is a stupid fucking phrase.  Can we please stop talking about it?

So was prog. But it's still around.

[ReaPsTA]

I personally think this is by far the best instrumental they have done.

I wouldn't say that. But I do think it's better than Ytsejam and Dance of Eternity when it comes to just trying to write something crazy and fun to rock out to.

[ReaPsTA]

I agree. And at times, the keyboards don't really fit very well with the whole "brutal" style.

Really?

[Viper45]

Wait a minute.  This is Dream Theater?  Are you sure?

If I was listening to the radio and heard the first 45 seconds of this song play, I would have promptly turned it off.

I was so pumped to finally get another instrumental from them, but... I can't say I want to listen to that again.

[juice]

i like it, it fits the video game theme very well and i think that meshuggah+LTE was a perfect description of it. 

[Elsydeon]

RAWR DOG!

[ReaPsTA]

I contend that Raw Dog kicks your ass in at least 23 different ways. I will now do you the service of listing those 23 kinds of ass kicking.

1. Your forehead's ass. You'll get a dent in it from headbanging into the table your computer sits on.
2. Your kneecap's ass. Having them kicked in is less a shock to your system than hearing Raw Dog.
3. Your elbow's ass. You'll shrug off funny bones without a problem once Raw Dog is through with you.
4. Your testicle's ass (Men Only) Raw Dog will stomp them into mush. You'll notice I didn't list each nut separately to pad out my list. Give me adulation.
5. Your foot's ass. You'll never want to walk again when you can sit down and keep hitting the play button on Raw Dog.
6. Your nose's ass. As the room fills up with the smell of blood and metal, your nose will be unable to process other smells.
7. Your cheek's ass. As you look around for rotting corpses to chew on because you feel so poised for blood shed, you'll chew on and eat your own cheeks in the absence of rotting corpses.
8. Your colon's ass. Raw Dog will literally pulsate through your body and collapse your colon. Yep.
9. Your liver's ass. In order to enjoy Raw Dog even more, you will drink the fermented blood of your enemies, thus overworking your poor under developed liver. But fear not, your friends will think you're cooler because you'll be able to drink more.
10. Your middle finger's ass. With the pure aggresion injected into you by Raw Dog, you'll understand how many people you can flip off without any consequences, thus tiring out its muscles.
11. Your arteries' collective asses. They aren't meant to process the pure concentrated undiluted metal sludge you're pouring into them.
12. Your back's ass. All the loot this song will inspire you to plunder is unhealthy for your bad nerd back.
13a. Your penis's ass. (Male Version) As you plunder loot, women will give themselves over to you in droves. Be prepared.
13b. Your Vag's ass. (Female Version) Men will want you to use them sexually in droves. Be prepared.
14. Your stomachs ass. Raw Dog makes you thirst for Raw Food. It will take some time to adjust.
15. Your throat's ass. Like I said, you'll need some time to adjust to your new Raw Meat diet. The acid in vomit hurts your throat.
16. Your teeth's collective ass. And the enamel on your teeth.
17. The webbing between your thumb and index finger's ass. You'll have to adjust to holding a battle axe all day as you conquer your local neighborhood.
18. Your ears' asses. The screams of your enemies as you murder them will be a heretofore unheard sensation.
19a. Your face's ass (Men only). Your hair folicles will be working over time to grow out a sufficiently manly beard. This is male only because women with beards aren't cool.
19b. Your armpit's asses. (Women Only) I guess feminists are right. Not shaving your armpits is linked with assertiveness.
20. Your breast's asses (Women Only). You will never have to wear a bra again, because your breasts will naturally perk up with confidence at all times after hearing Raw Dog. But that will tire them out, hence the ass kicking part.
21. Your forearm's asses. Gauntlets are heavy.
22. Your ass's ass. Because this song is kicking your ass. Self-explanatory really.
23. Your eye's asses. They will tear up profusely with joy after reading this list.

[Ultimetalhead]

...It's not THAT good.

[Jamesman42]

Yes, it is.

[Ultimetalhead]

Honestly, I think it's my least favorite instrumental, but maybe it just needs more time to sink in.

[Jamesman42]

True, that's how new music usually works.

[black_biff_stadler]

Honestly, I think it's my least favorite instrumental, but maybe it just needs more time to sink in.

Ya know, I like you UMH. But this post is nearly sufficient grounds to strip you of your username *tisk tisk*

[Ultimetalhead]

Honestly, I think this song just lacks the epic feel that the other instrumentals have. I will say that the second half is a shit-ton better than the first half though.

[emindead]

Because brutality seems not to have a direction?

They made the song for a videogame soundtrack, man.  What's so hard to understand about that? There's no need for the kind of direction you're asking for. Of course it's not going to be a traditional kind of DT song.

DT were asked to put a song together for the GoW soundtrack and wrote a song that would probably be fantastic during one of the games' fight sequences.  They really got the job done.  Too bad it probably won't be in the game, as it suits the idea of a song for a video game perfectly.  I'm willing to bet it's the best song on the EP.

There's nothing hard to understand that it is not a good song, independently if it was written for a video game or not. Want a good videogame song? Check "Melodies of Life" from Final Fantasy IX. As for the standards of what DT has done since ToT, it is a typical song from them.

Haven't you been here where we discuss how as of late certain instrumental parts have nothing to do with the song and almost ruin it because a)they literally are just other songs within the song and b)those instrumentals are not that good?
This is a typical case. Brutal riff after brutal riff after brutal riff and cue fade out is not capturing the essence of a fighting scene. Maybe if I'm not paying attention to the song while I'm playing the game this song can last the seven minutes while in my presence.

It is so random that... meh.

[Perpetual Change]

I disagree em.  I see where you're coming from though.  You're recognizing a typical criticism of post ToT DT, and applying it do a song that doesn't deserve it.

I've been here for those discussions and, while I think they have some merit, I also think that it's just kinda become the "cool" thing to do when talking about DT.  ToT had a lot of wank, but the criticism that all DT instrumentals or all Jordan instrumentals have become pointless and choppy is becoming a cliche that's not true more than a fraction of the time-- or more than it ever was.

I really like Raw Dog.  I don't think it sounds any more like "A bunch of parts thrown together" than Erotomania or Stream of Consciousness, and it's better than both those songs.  I've only heard Raw Dog once on the AOL radio, but from what I could tell it was pretty straightforward, like a heavier Ytsejam type format without too many changes but a lot of deviation on a similar theme and solo spots.  I think they got the job done. But I guess we just have to agree to disagree.

[emindead]

Just to take into consideration regarding my post, I love ToT. Somehow I know that was the turning point for what would happen next (nugget!).

"Erotomania" does have a consistent and strong melody reprising through the song though, same with "Stream of Consciousness". So at the end of the day we will not agree.

[austin]

I didn't like it at first
I love it

but it sounds to me like it could be music to Extreme Pinball