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Started by setrataeso, November 03, 2009, 07:35:43 PM

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Nick

Honestly I think a good idea would be to say how many times it was played, and then in parenthesis how many of those times were in a particular medley.

For example-

Learning to Live: 450 (100 times as part of Metropolis/Learning to Live/Crimson Sunset and 50 times as part of Schmedley Wilcox)

Now, I would actually prefer that the number be full plays, and then have medleys added on, but you have already said you won't do that, but for example that would look like this-

Learning to Live: 300 (Also played 100 times as part of Metropolis/Learning to Live/Crimson Sunset and 50 times as part of Schmedley Wilcox)

setrataeso

Quote from: Nick on November 05, 2009, 02:24:49 PM
Honestly I think a good idea would be to say how many times it was played, and then in parenthesis how many of those times were in a particular medley.

For example-

Learning to Live: 450 (100 times as part of Metropolis/Learning to Live/Crimson Sunset and 50 times as part of Schmedley Wilcox)

Now, I would actually prefer that the number be full plays, and then have medleys added on, but you have already said you won't do that, but for example that would look like this-

Learning to Live: 300 (Also played 100 times as part of Metropolis/Learning to Live/Crimson Sunset and 50 times as part of Schmedley Wilcox)

I given it some thought, and your method seems to match what I would consider doing.
In which case, give me a week or so, and I'll have the redistributed version up.

I really didn't want to have to change it, but I'd rather change it and have more insightful comments based on the actual list, than leave it as is and all comments be about how it should be changed.

Perpetual Change

Quote from: 73109 on November 04, 2009, 12:45:15 PM
They should never play PMU warped  version ever again and just leave it there. So :metal

Fixed.

setrataeso


robwebster

Whoa, was When Images And Words Unite only played once?

Haha, that means the trainwreck version is the only one. Excellent.

setrataeso

Quote from: robwebster on November 05, 2009, 08:35:03 PM
Whoa, was When Images And Words Unite only played once?

Haha, that means the trainwreck version is the only one. Excellent.

Shit.
Nope. Hang on.

EDIT: Sorry about that. Mis-searched the MP tourography. It listed it as WIAWU medley for being played 1 time, and WIAWU for 14. I key searched medley, so I missed the other 14. All fixed now.

elvenshadow

Hey thanks for putting this list together dude.  Major props.

I noticed that you didnt include Dont Look Past Me on the list of demos.  Is it because it has never been played live even once or did you forget it?

I always thought it was one of their best songs and would love to hear it live even though I know it will probably never happen.  I was lucky enough to hear To Live Forever live.

setrataeso

Quote from: elvenshadow on November 05, 2009, 08:38:34 PM
Hey thanks for putting this list together dude.  Major props.

I noticed that you didnt include Dont Look Past Me on the list of demos.  Is it because it has never been played live even once or did you forget it?

I always thought it was one of their best songs and would love to hear it live even though I know it will probably never happen.  I was lucky enough to hear To Live Forever live.

Thanks for the props.
Don't Look Past Me has never been played live. Along with Space Dye Vest, The Shattered Fortress, and The Best of Times (and I guess you could include You Or Me), it has yet to be played.
It is a good song, however I wouldn't count on a live performance of it anytime soon.

elvenshadow

#43
yea... well TSF and TBOT will eventually get played for sure, just probably not on this tour.

SDV... the only chance I ever see it getting played is if they play all of Awake for this anniversary show like they did with the 1st 2 albums but they probably wont play it anyway unless Kevin Moore shows up which also probably wont happen.

One thing I was wondering, when you went through the old sets and they played the demo version of Burning My Soul, did you count it as JUST Burning My Soul or did you remember that the entirety of Hells Kitchen is included in the middle of it?  I actually saw them play this version live when they were on their first tour for SDOIT and it was pretty cool.

setrataeso

On MP's tourography, they note which version of Burning My Soul it is. "Burning My Soul" is just the singular song, but "Burning My Soul '96" is the version with Hell's Kitchen in it. So basically any show where Burning My Soul '96 was played, I counted both Burning My Soul and Hell's Kitchen.

Hell's Kitchen has only been played 4 times outside of Burning My Soul '96 and Instrumedley.

robwebster

Quote from: setrataeso on November 05, 2009, 08:43:10 PM
Don't Look Past Me has never been played live.
If only. AMAZING little song.

And this is a brilliant little undertaking. I do think it makes more sense now and is more impressive, but it was still cool pre-medleys. Good work dude!

ariich

Wow, that is awesome now setra! Great job, and thanks for all the effort!

Quote from: Buddyhunter1 on May 10, 2023, 05:59:19 PMAriich is a freak, or somehow has more hours in the day than everyone else.
Quote from: TAC on December 21, 2023, 06:05:15 AMI be am boner inducing.

Global Laziness

The Crimson Sunset would've been played a lot in the Once in a LIVEtime era in the medley with Metropolis and Learning to Live, wouldn't it?

setrataeso

Quote from: Global Laziness on November 06, 2009, 08:54:42 PM
The Crimson Sunset would've been played a lot in the Once in a LIVEtime era in the medley with Metropolis and Learning to Live, wouldn't it?

Those were never designated officially as medleys on MP's tourography. It was written as:
Metropolis/
Learning to Live/
The Crimson Sunset

So, the ones for the Prog Nation 09 tour are actually only temporary. When they are posted on MP's site, if they are logged as they were before, then I'll take off the medley part an retally the individual songs. If it does say "medley" specifically then it'll stay as is.

Either way, yes that was the majority of the individual plays for The Crimson Sunset.

hefdaddy42

Quote from: setrataeso on November 07, 2009, 03:54:30 PM
Those were never designated officially as medleys on MP's tourography.
They were, in fact, medleys.
Quote from: BlobVanDam on December 11, 2014, 08:19:46 PMHef is right on all things. Except for when I disagree with him. In which case he's probably still right.

setrataeso

Quote from: hefdaddy42 on November 08, 2009, 06:11:13 AM
Quote from: setrataeso on November 07, 2009, 03:54:30 PM
Those were never designated officially as medleys on MP's tourography.
They were, in fact, medleys.

When in doubt I check MP's tourography. It doesn't say medley anywhere, I don't say medley anywhere.

Global Laziness

Quote from: setrataeso on November 08, 2009, 08:36:28 AM
Quote from: hefdaddy42 on November 08, 2009, 06:11:13 AM
Quote from: setrataeso on November 07, 2009, 03:54:30 PM
Those were never designated officially as medleys on MP's tourography.
They were, in fact, medleys.

When in doubt I check MP's tourography. It doesn't say medley anywhere, I don't say medley anywhere.

I'm pretty sure that the slash usually indicated a medley in some form.

setrataeso

Quote from: Global Laziness on November 09, 2009, 03:28:29 PM
Quote from: setrataeso on November 08, 2009, 08:36:28 AM
Quote from: hefdaddy42 on November 08, 2009, 06:11:13 AM
Quote from: setrataeso on November 07, 2009, 03:54:30 PM
Those were never designated officially as medleys on MP's tourography.
They were, in fact, medleys.

When in doubt I check MP's tourography. It doesn't say medley anywhere, I don't say medley anywhere.

I'm pretty sure that the slash usually indicated a medley in some form.

Not necessarily. A slash just usually means a transition with no break.
Besides, it doesn't say medley, so there's no keyword I can use in the search option. I would have a hard time going back through the list and picking it all apart again.

hefdaddy42

Quote from: BlobVanDam on December 11, 2014, 08:19:46 PMHef is right on all things. Except for when I disagree with him. In which case he's probably still right.

BlobVanDam

Quote from: hefdaddy42 on November 09, 2009, 06:33:56 PM
FFS, it's a medley.

Seriously, this. If it looks like a medley, it it sounds like a medley, and it smells like a medley, it's a medley. It's only named by individual songs because the medley obviously doesn't have its own specific name, but it's obviously a medley. There is no grey area here when it comes to the definition of a medley.

GuineaPig


setrataeso

#56
Quote from: BlobVanDam on November 09, 2009, 08:23:25 PM
Quote from: hefdaddy42 on November 09, 2009, 06:33:56 PM
FFS, it's a medley.

Seriously, this. If it looks like a medley, it it sounds like a medley, and it smells like a medley, it's a medley. It's only named by individual songs because the medley obviously doesn't have its own specific name, but it's obviously a medley. There is no grey area here when it comes to the definition of a medley.

GOD. DAMMIT.

Okay, I'm fixing it today.
I'm blending the medley from the Touring into Infinty shows and the PN09 shows. I know they are slightly different, but its the same 3 songs.
I need a name from that medley. Give me some ideas.

cyberdrummer


GuineaPig

Quote from: setrataeso on November 10, 2009, 08:52:49 AM
Quote from: BlobVanDam on November 09, 2009, 08:23:25 PM
Quote from: hefdaddy42 on November 09, 2009, 06:33:56 PM
FFS, it's a medley.

Seriously, this. If it looks like a medley, it it sounds like a medley, and it smells like a medley, it's a medley. It's only named by individual songs because the medley obviously doesn't have its own specific name, but it's obviously a medley. There is no grey area here when it comes to the definition of a medley.

GOD. DAMMIT.

Okay, I'm fixing it today.
I'm blending the medley from the Touring into Infinty shows and the PN09 shows. I know they are slightly different, but its the same 3 songs.
I need a name from that medley. Give me some ideas.

Well, I know that in 2008 it was called the Progressive Nation Medley. 

cyberdrummer

I know I gave it that name in my setlist thread, but was it actually called that?

GuineaPig

Quote from: cyberdrummer on November 10, 2009, 10:14:14 AM
I know I gave it that name in my setlist thread, but was it actually called that?

Probably not, then.  I thought I had read it on Mp.com, but it was actually from your compilations.

robwebster

Quote from: cyberdrummer on November 10, 2009, 10:14:14 AM
I know I gave it that name in my setlist thread, but was it actually called that?
Doubt it, they were playing it on the First European festival leg.

setrataeso

Fixed the list to include the medley which will now be known as "Encore Medley".

Any other questions/things that need fixing?

OptionalPlayer

Where's Bombay Vindaloo or the Spirit of St. Louis?! Regardless, that compilation is awesome. Fantastic, even.

setrataeso

#64
Quote from: OptionalPlayer on December 17, 2009, 08:12:26 AM
Where's Bombay Vindaloo or the Spirit of St. Louis?! Regardless, that compilation is awesome. Fantastic, even.

I haven't heard of Spirit of St. Louis, so I imagine it was recorded in the MP tourography under a different name.
All of the misc jam/live-only tracks are in my personal archive, but I didn't upload them here, as it's fairly cluttered.
However, because you asked, Bombay Vindaloo has been played 8 times.

Global Laziness

Quote from: OptionalPlayer on December 17, 2009, 08:12:26 AM
Where's Bombay Vindaloo or the Spirit of St. Louis?! Regardless, that compilation is awesome. Fantastic, even.

From A Sort of Homecoming, no?

Mladen


setrataeso


Mladen

Interesting. I wonder if there's a bootleg from this show.

setrataeso