Dream Theater Top 100 countdown - 2024 Version! (#01 Up!)

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ReaperKK

Going up to the Top 5 today.

06. Trial Of Tears
Highest Finish: 1 (Fonzie, Toro)
Number of Lists appeared on: 66 (Adami, Animal, Awaken, axeman90210, Ben_Jamin, bosk1, CanuckChum, CharlesPL, Cool Chris, Dave_Manchester, devieira73, Dittomist, DragonAttack, Dream Team, DTwwbwMP, energythief, Evermind, Fonzie, geeeemo, hefdaddy42, Indiscipline, Jamesman42, jammindude, jeff_kinsley, JiM-Xtreme, jingle.boy, jonny108, JPZealot, KevShmev, King Puppies and the Acid Guppies, Lethean, lightningbolt, lucasembarbosa, mariner, Metro, MirrorMask, Mladen, MoraWintersoul, Mosh, MustActFastToCoverUp, nobloodyname, NoFred, OpenYourEyes311, Peter Mc, pg1067, PixelDream, Podaar, porcacultor, ReaperKK, ReaPsTA, Revenge319, romdrums, Setlist Scotty, Stadler, SwedishGoose, TAC, The Realm, Toro, Trav86, twosuitsluke, Vmadera00, WardySI, weirdo, Wim Kruithof, wolfking, Zydar)

The first (and maybe only) song to make every list, brilliant song start to finish. Fully deserves it's spot in the top 10. 

05. Home
Highest Finish: 1 (energytheif)
Number of Lists appeared on: 65 (Adami, Animal, Awaken, axeman90210, Ben_Jamin, bosk1, CanuckChum, CharlesPL, Cool Chris, Dave_Manchester, devieira73, Dittomist, DragonAttack, Dream Team, DTwwbwMP, energythief, Evermind, Fonzie, geeeemo, hefdaddy42, Indiscipline, Jamesman42, jammindude, jeff_kinsley, JiM-Xtreme, jingle.boy, jonny108, JPZealot, KevShmev, King Puppies and the Acid Guppies, Lethean, lightningbolt, lucasembarbosa, mariner, Metro, MirrorMask, Mladen, MoraWintersoul, Mosh, MustActFastToCoverUp, nobloodyname, NoFred, OpenYourEyes311, Peter Mc, pg1067, PixelDream, Podaar, porcacultor, ReaperKK, ReaPsTA, Revenge319, romdrums, Setlist Scotty, Stadler, SwedishGoose, The Realm, Toro, Trav86, twosuitsluke, Vmadera00, WardySI, weirdo, Wim Kruithof, wolfking, Zydar)

Another great song, didn't make number 5 for me but it was up there (maybe even higher if it wasn't for the terrible moaning).

HOF

Trial of Tears is awesome all the way through. Definitely a top 5 song for me and worthy of this finish.

Home, well, I think it's a little overrated. Kind of a messy song that doesn't do a lot for me, though the intro was pretty unique and sets a nice tone for the second half of the album.
Quote from: TAC on December 12, 2024, 05:40:22 PM"No way" is kind of strong, but I do lean with HOF.

Lonk

Trial of Tears # 35 for me. Really well composed piece. The only thing that drags it down a bit for me is the not-so-memorable melodies.

Home #14 for me. Great song from beginning to end. Great sing-along chorus too.

1. Locked
2. Locked
3. Stream of Consciousness
4. Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence
5. Finally Free
6. Locked
7. Blind Faith
8. Peruvian Skies
9. Space-Dye Vest
10. In the Presence of Enemies
11. Locked
12. Surrender To Reason
13. Panic Attack
14. Home
15. Breaking All Illusions
16. This is the Life
17. Lines In the Sand
18. Voices
19. Surrounded
20. Strange Deja Vu
21. The Great Debate
22. Disappear
23. Scarred
24. Endless Sacrifice
25. In the Name of God
26. Through Her Eyes
27. At Wit's End
28. Innocence Faded
29. Barstool Warrior
30. Bridges In the Sky
31. Take the Time
32. One Last Time
33. Vacant
34. Beyond This Life
35. Trial of Tears
36. The Root of All Evil
37. The Glass Prison
38. No chance. Still don't understand the hate this song gets.
39. Lost Not Forgotten
40. Caught In a Web
41. Our New World
42. Pull Me Under
43. Awaken the Master
44. Answering the Call
45. S2N
46. The Ministry of Lost Souls
47. Constant Motion
48. The Spirit Carries On
49. These Walls
50. To Live Forever
51. Under a Glass Moon
52. No chance
53. The Bigger Picture
54. A View from the Top of the World
55. Fatal Tragedy
56. On the Backs of Angels
57. Lie
58. A New Beginning
59. No chance
60. The Looking Glass
61. The Mirror
62. Lifting Shadows Off a Dream
63. Overture 1928
64. The Dance of Eternity
65. Another Day
66. This Dying Soul
67. Illumination Theory
68. Honor Thy Father
69. Never Enough
70. No chance
71. Afterlife
72. Outcry
73. Wait For Sleep
74. New Millennium
75. 6:00
76. A Fortune in Lies
77. No chance
78. Beneath the Surface
79. No chance
80. The Count of Tuscany
81. No chance
82.No chance
83. The Shattered Fortress
84. The Enemy Inside
85. Thought it would make it
86. The Dark Eternal Night
87. Pale Blue Dot
88. Should be, but it will never make it
89. No chance
90. Sacrificed Sons
91. As I Am
92. A Nightmare To Remember
93. No chance
94. Hell's Kitchen
95. No chance
96. Behind the Veil
97. The Gift of Music
98. Misunderstood
99. No chance
100. No chance

Dream Team

Home is amazing, probably a top-5 DT chorus AND keyboard-guitar solo trade-off. Trial of Tears: I appreciate some of this song, but 13 minutes is a loooooong time to stay at that tempo. Also not a fan of the way James says "it's rainen" over and over again. If it had been "rainING" it would be less grating on the ears. Cool guitar solo. Breaking the Fourth Wall is the best version for me. Also, the only song to make every list? Please n . . . . .

  3 Under a Glass Moon
  4 Breaking all Illusions
  5 Only a Matter of Time
  6 The Killing Hand
  7 In the Name of God
  8 The Count of Tuscany
  9 The Great Debate
11 Outcry
12 Overture 1928
14 Blind Faith
15 Fatal Tragedy
16 One Last Time
17 Home
18 Illumination Theory
19 Beyond This Life
20 Lost Not Forgotten
21 Surrounded
22 A View From the Top of the World
24 This is the Life
25 Beneath the Surface
26 A New Beginning
27 Take the Time
28 Fall Into the Light
29 Bridges in the Sky
30 The Best of Times
31 Afterlife
32 Scarred
33 Disappear
35 S2N
38 Constant Motion
39 Behind the Veil
40 The Enemy Inside
41 Pale Blue Dot
42 The Root of All Evil
46 Misunderstood
48 A Fortune in Lies
51 Barstool Warrior
52 Our New World
53 At Wit's End
54 Wither
55 The Alien
56 Lifting Shadows off a Dream
57 Surrender to Reason
58 Raise the Knife
59 Innocence Faded
61 I Walk Beside You
62 Endless Sacrifice
63 Awaken the Master
64 The Looking Glass
65 Wait for Sleep
66 The Bigger Picture
67 A Nightmare to Remember
68 Sleeping Giant
69 Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence
70 The Ministry of Lost Souls
71 Pull Me Under
72 The Dance of Eternity
75 Panic Attack
76 Transcending Time
78 Ytse Jam
79 Sacrificed Sons
80 Strange Deja-Vu
81 The Gift of Music
84 Answering the Call
88 The Mirror
92 Voices
93 Another Day
94 Trial of Tears
95 On the Backs of Angels
97 The Shattered Fortress


Missed the top 100: Never Enough, Vacant, Forsaken, New Millennium, Through Her Eyes, To Live Forever, Honor thy Father, The Dark Eternal Night, The Silent Man, Hollow Years, Hell's Kitchen, These Walls, Caught in a Web, Lie, This Dying Soul, Peruvian Skies, As I Am, Erotomania, Stream of Consciousness, 6:00, Space-Dye Vest, The Spirit Carries On, Lines in the Sand, ITPoE, Finally Free, The Glass Prison

Highest Ranker Of: Only a Matter of Time, Outcry, Under a Glass Moon

jingle.boy

I'll be very surprised if ToT is the ONLY song to receive votes from all 66 participants.  But then again, this is DTF.  :lol

ToT... 31 for me.  It's great, but not Top 6 great.
Home ... 27.  Ditto.  But it's got WOMP WOMP.

Who's the joker that left Home off their list.  C'mon... fess up!
Quote from: ReaperKK on July 28, 2018, 07:12:37 PMI didn't know I could handle another 10 inches and it was rough but in the end I'm glad I did it.
Quote from: Zydar on May 30, 2012, 03:56:46 AMI'll have to find something to blow
Quote from: Zydar on February 21, 2025, 02:29:56 AMI wish it was just the ball-sack.

nobloodyname

Home's a really good tune although I am surprised at it finishing number five!

Trial of Tears is just majestic and the kind of material I wish they'd write more of.

PixelDream

I didn't expect Trial of Tears to be this high. I like it, but I've never been crazy about it. I echo the sentiment that 'It's rainèn' over and over isn't all that great to listen to. The solo section is pretty awesome.

Home is one of their very best. It soon grew out to be my favorite song from SFAM, but I have definitely overplayed it throughout the years. Especially the LSFNY version.

ReaperKK

Quote from: jingle.boy on February 06, 2024, 05:32:11 AM
I'll be very surprised if ToT is the ONLY song to receive votes from all 66 participants.  But then again, this is DTF.  :lol

ToT... 31 for me.  It's great, but not Top 6 great.
Home ... 27.  Ditto.  But it's got WOMP WOMP.

Who's the joker that left Home off their list.  C'mon... fess up!

Well it might not be the only, I haven't read ahead to see how many people voted for the last 4.

Mladen

Trial of tears was my #18. One of the more unique epics. It's moody, it's melancholic, and it occasionally rocks out. One of the several songs on Falling into infinity that I truly love. Seeing this live in 2014 was special, James nailed it.

Home was my #41. A great song from my favorite Dream Theater album. Though I did rank quite a few SFAM songs above it, it's still brilliant.


Lonk

Quote from: jingle.boy on February 06, 2024, 05:32:11 AM
I'll be very surprised if ToT is the ONLY song to receive votes from all 66 participants.  But then again, this is DTF.  :lol

ToT... 31 for me.  It's great, but not Top 6 great.
Home ... 27.  Ditto.  But it's got WOMP WOMP.

Who's the joker that left Home off their list.  C'mon... fess up!
They already confessed, it was HOF! *Dramatic sound*

Zydar

Trial Of Tears - 23

Definitely a very good song, but it's missing that certain something that prevents it from being even higher on my ranking. Great chorus though.

Home - 15

WOMP WOMP. Truly a great song, and one of the many highlights on SFAM. Lots of cool riffs and melodies.

Evermind

Quote from: jingle.boy on February 06, 2024, 05:32:11 AM
I'll be very surprised if ToT is the ONLY song to receive votes from all 66 participants.  But then again, this is DTF.  :lol

Well, out of the Top 4, one song didn't make my list, so that leaves only three other possibilities for 66 votes.
Quote from: Train of Naught on May 28, 2020, 10:57:25 PMThis first band is Soen very cool swingy jazz fusion kinda stuff.

Stadler

157. The Dark Eternal Night
155. Hell's Kitchen
154. S2N
150. The Killing Hand
146. Disappear
145. Vacant
143. Honor Thy Father
142. Ytsejam
139. Panic Attack
138. Wither
135. Only A Matter Of Time
132. Barstool Warrior
127. Lines In The Sand
125. Stream Of Consciousness
124. Through Her Eyes
123. Never Enough
122. The Alien
121. Afterlife
120. A Fortune In Lies
118. In The Presence Of Enemies
117. Breaking All Illusions
109. Outcry
105. Sleeping Giant
104. Surrender To Reason

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100.Scarred
99.  No chance of making the list at this point
98.  Another Day
97.  Awaken The Master
96.  Behind The Veil
95.  The Great Debate
94.  No chance of making the list at this point
93.  No chance of making the list at this point
92.  No chance of making the list at this point
91.  The Glass Prison
90.  On The Backs Of Angels
89.  No chance of making the list at this point
88.  No chance of making the list at this point
87.  Finally Free
86.  No chance of making the list at this point
85.  Constant Motion
84.  Beneath The Surface
83.  At Wit's End
82.  Peruvian Skies
81.  Space Dye Vest
80.  The Enemy Inside
79.  The Count Of Tuscany
78.  Hollow Years
77.  Fatal Tragedy
76.  The Shattered Fortress
75.  No chance of making the list at this point
74.  No chance of making the list at this point
73.  Lie
72.  No chance of making the list at this point
71.  No chance of making the list at this point
70.  No chance of making the list at this point
69.  The Mirror
68.  A Nightmare To Remember
67.  The Silent Man
66.  The Root Of All Evil
65.  The Spirit Carries On
64.  No chance of making the list at this point
63.  No chance of making the list at this point
62.  As I Am
61.  These Walls
60.  No chance of making the list at this point
59.  The Gift of Music
58.  Illumination Theory
57.  The Bigger Picture
56.  One Last Time
55.  Pale Blue Dot
54.  Answering The Call
53.  Trial Of Tears Strong chance of making the list
52.  Lost Not Forgotten
51.  Fall Into The Light
50.  No chance of making the list at this point
49.  No chance of making the list at this point
48.  Endless Sacrifice
47.  No chance of making the list at this point
46.  A New Beginning
45.  No chance of making the list at this point
44.  Forsaken
43.  A View From The Top Of The World
42.  Slim chance of making the list at this point
41.  The Looking Glass
40.  The Ministry Of Lost Souls
39.  No chance of making the list at this point
38.  The Dance Of Eternity
37.  Beyond This Life
36.  New Millenium
35.  Lifting Shadows Off A Dream
34.  Wait For Sleep
33.  Transcending Time
32.  Blind Faith
31.  The Best Of Times
30.  Erotomania
29.  Six Degrees Of Inner Turbulence
28.  Our New World
27.  In The Name Of God
26.  Bridges In The Sky
25.  Raise The Knife
24.  6:00
23.  I Walk Beside You
22.  Slim chance of making the list at this point
21.  Sacrificed Sons
20.  Take The Time
19.  Caught In A Web
18.  No chance of making the list at this point
17.  Lock to make the list
16.  Lock to make the list
15.  Under A Glass Moon
14.  To Live Forever
13.  Home Lock to make the list
12.  Slim chance of making the list
11.  Surrounded
10.  Lock to make the list
9.    Innocence Faded
8.    Pull Me Under
7.    This Dying Soul
6.    Misunderstood
5.    This Is The Life
4.    Overture 1928
3.    Strange Deja Vu
2.    Voices
1.    No chance of making the list at this point

jingle.boy

I'm surprised you have 3 "locks" and 3 "slim".  The top 4 is a foregone conclusion.
Quote from: ReaperKK on July 28, 2018, 07:12:37 PMI didn't know I could handle another 10 inches and it was rough but in the end I'm glad I did it.
Quote from: Zydar on May 30, 2012, 03:56:46 AMI'll have to find something to blow
Quote from: Zydar on February 21, 2025, 02:29:56 AMI wish it was just the ball-sack.

SwedishGoose

Trial of Tears was my number 9. A totally awesome song from a not as awesome album. Great composition from start to finish with great contributions by everyone.  So glad this got a mention by everyone as it is soo fricking good. Love the small soundbits and percussion sounds that add soo much to the feeling especially in the Wasteland....
Home ended up at spot 14. One of a bunch of highlights on SFAM. Definetely one of Dream Theaters many masterpieces.... moans and all

My ranking so far

1 Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence (9)
5 Take the Time (17)
6 Another Day (38)
7 Space-Dye Vest (30)
8 One Last Time (46)
9 Trial of Tears (6)
11 The Dance of Eternity (33)
12 The Spirit Carries On (26)
13 Surrounded (20)
14 Home (5)
15 Voices (7)
16 Pull Me Under (14)
17 The Mirror (27)
18 Finally Free (19)
19 The Silent Man (66)
20 Illumination Theory (25)
21 Caught In a Web (51)
22 6:00 (34)
24 Scarred  (12)
25 Fatal Tragedy  (13)
27 Wait For Sleep (44t)
28 Through Her Eyes  (74)
32 Awaken the Master (81)
33 Sleeping Giant (85)
35 Beyond This Life (24)
36 Strange Deja Vu (18)
37 Our New World (93)
38 Innocence Faded (42)
40 Lifting Shadows Off a Dream (35)
41 A View from the Top of the World (49t)
44 The Great Debate (53)
45 To Live Forever (76)
46 Under a Glass Moon (16)
47 Lie (47t)
48 Erotomania (40)
50 Answering the Call (75)
54 Beneath the Surface (64)
56 The Count of Tuscany (10)
57 Pale Blue Dot (62)
59 Transcending Time (90)
63 Bridges In the Sky (23)
64 Sacrificed Sons (63)
65 The Looking Glass (92)
66 Hollow Years (59)
61 At Wit's End ( 37)
62 Stream of Consciousness  (39)
73 As I Am (43)
74 The Root of All Evil(36)
75 The Alien (69)
76 Breaking All Illusions (8)
77 A Nightmare To Remember (49t)
78 Misunderstood (31)
81 Behind the Veil (89)
86 Peruvian Skies (44t)
87 Surrender To Reason (83)
88 Ytse Jam (67)
89 Forsaken (95)
90 The Glass Prison (15)
91. The Gift of Music (98)
94. Never Enough (100)
96 Endless Sacrifice (29)
99 These Walls (54)
100 Honor Thy Father (71)


Highest ranker of
8 One Last Time (46), 1 Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence (9)

Not rated
Wither (99), Vacant (97), Afterlife (96), S2N (94), A New Beginning (91), This is the Life (88), New Millennium (87), Constant Motion (86), The Enemy Inside (84), Only a Matter of Time (82), I Walk Beside You (80), The Shattered Fortress (79), A Fortune In Lies (78), The Best Of Times (78), Lost Not Forgotten (73), Fall Into the Light (72), The Dark Eternal Night (70), The Killing Hand (68), Raise The Knife (65), The Ministry of Lost Souls (61), The Bigger Picture (60), Outcry (58),  Hell's Kitchen (57), On The Backs Of Angels (56), Panic Attack (55), Barstool Warrior (52), This Dying Soul (47t), Disappear (41), Overture 1928 (32), Lines In The Sand (28), In the Presence of Enemies (22),  Blind Faith (21), In the Name of God (11)

Rated: 60
Not rated: 33

jammindude

Trial of Tears - 6

Hey! I nailed the aggregate again!  Truly a wonderful song from beginning to end and definitely the highlight of FII

Home - 77

And there it is. The single most overrated song in the DT catalog.  I love the instrumental second half, which is the only reason it made the list at all. But I find the first half to be a bit of a plodding, slogfest.  But I still manage to get into the spirit of things whenever they do it live.

Stadler

Quote from: jammindude on February 06, 2024, 06:18:07 AM
Trial of Tears - 6

Hey! I nailed the aggregate again!  Truly a wonderful song from beginning to end and definitely the highlight of FII

Home - 77

And there it is. The single most overrated song in the DT catalog.  I love the instrumental second half, which is the only reason it made the list at all. But I find the first half to be a bit of a plodding, slogfest.  But I still manage to get into the spirit of things whenever they do it live.

My number 103 says "hold my beer".    ;D ;D :heart

Fonzie

Quote from: Lonk on February 06, 2024, 04:55:17 AM
Quote from: Fonzie on February 05, 2024, 11:37:31 PM
1 8 10 14 15 16 for me.
I expect to be in the minority with my 1, but it will give me my 4th high placer.
If you are sure your #1 is still on the board, that makes it a top 6. How is that being in the minority?  Want to talk about being in the minority, wait until Stadler reveals his #1  :)

yeah, absolutely see your point!
I figured my number one wasn't going to be 'the most popular number one' is what I was drunkenly trying to articulate, lol.

hefdaddy42

6 Trial of Tears - I was right with the consensus on this one, # 6 for me.  Just a gorgeous, beautiful song.

5 Home - I love it, just not quite as much as the rest of you.  It came in at # 19 for me.  BTW, cheers to DT for figuring out a way to bring the WOMP WOMP from Tainted Love into a prog song.


And with that, the Top 4 will be my top 4, in some order.
Quote from: BlobVanDam on December 11, 2014, 08:19:46 PMHef is right on all things. Except for when I disagree with him. In which case he's probably still right.

TheOutlawXanadu

Trial of Tears is probably my number one, but I certainly won't complain about finishing at six!

DragonAttack

06.   Trial Of Tears (#45) I like the NY chorus.  I didn't own FII until after the '08 tour.  When MP was in front of his drum kit playing chimes and such at the beginning of the encore, I thought they were going to play 'Xanadu'. :lol :lol

05.   Home (#60)  a highlight watching JP during the anniversary tour. 

71/96 ****
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axeman90210

Trial of Tears- #7 on my list. Just an absolute stunner of a song start to finish. I'm particularly fond of the vocal section right after the solo leading into the last chorus.

Home- I was just a touch lower than the consensus #15 on my list. All hail the WOMP WOMP, a monster of a song. Love the chorus, and I've always liked how the (great) guitar solo transitions directly into the little lead line used repeatedly to feed into the chorus.


Fonzie

There's a subtlety about the ensemble playing in ToT that is gorgeous.
There are times I want to wrestle the guitar out of JP 's hands, and tell him to chill the fuck out, but then you get a performance like in BtFW and all is well in the world. So good. My number 1.

Home is pretty good, but it doesn't have the same dynamic and emotional range.
My number 10.

pg1067

Big catch-up day for me.

13. Fatal Tragedy - Just an excellent song from the first moments to the last.  I had it at #10.

12. Scarred - My favorite song on Awake by a pretty good margin.  I LOVE the bass intro and the changing moods of the song.  I had it at #7.

11. In the Name of God - This song was released in the midst of a very chaotic time in my life, and it took me a while to warm up to it, but holy hell!  I had it at #8.

10. The Count of Tuscany - Gotta say I'm a little surprised to see this this high.  It's really good, but it's not without its faults.  I had it at #16.

9. Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence - I REALLY don't get some of the absolute panning of this piece.  It's not perfect, but it's pretty damn close.  I don't consider it a single song, but taken as a whole, I had it at #4.

8. Breaking All Illusions - Hands down the best song on ADTOE.  I had it at #12.

7. Voices - I don't love it as much as Scarred, and I didn't initially care for it, but it still came in at #20 for me.

6. Trial of Tears - A nice song (and maybe the best on a mediocre album), but #6 is absurdly high.  Not a surprise, though, given where it ranked last time, but I don't get the devotion this song gets.  I had it at #52, which makes it the second top 20 song not in my top 50 (UAGM being the other).

5. Home - Such a perfect way to write a "Metropolis Part 2" but not call it that.  An absolute epic.  I had it at #6.


Rankings of these songs compared to last time.

13. Fatal Tragedy – 18 (+5)
12. Scarred – 9 (-3)
11. In the Name of God – 11 (+0)
10. The Count of Tuscany – 14 (+4)
9. Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence – 12 (+2)
8. Breaking All Illusions – 6 (-2)
7. Voices – 5 (-2)
6. Trial of Tears – 7 (+1)
5. Home – 8 (-3)

Not surprisingly, very little movement, and there won't be much (if any) movement with the final 4, which is the same final 4 as last time (and my top 3 and #5).

I'll save the album rankings for the end, but everything is locked.

Evermind

Trial of Tears - #46 - like but don't love it. Surprised it's this high. I agree with whoever said 13 minutes is a long time to stay in this tempo.

Home - #20 - this song slaps. It's only this low because DT has a lot of great songs. I could see it rising higher next time I make my list.
Quote from: Train of Naught on May 28, 2020, 10:57:25 PMThis first band is Soen very cool swingy jazz fusion kinda stuff.

energythief

Home got robbed. Should have been WAY higher.  :metal  I'm proud to be the #1 vote. My favourite DT song of all time.

hefdaddy42

Quote from: energythief on February 06, 2024, 09:59:34 AM
Home got robbed. Should have been WAY higher.  :metal  I'm proud to be the #1 vote. My favourite DT song of all time.
It is physically impossible for it to be WAY higher.
Quote from: BlobVanDam on December 11, 2014, 08:19:46 PMHef is right on all things. Except for when I disagree with him. In which case he's probably still right.

Indiscipline


MirrorMask

06. Trial Of Tears

Didn't expect this one so high, but I'm not gonna complain, and I figured it would have been FII's best ranking song. It was my 15, 9 positions lower, and I remember listening to it recently and being floored by it. So atmospheric, moody, painting a scene with music, without the need to use "too many notes" so to speak, all in all one of their best songs of the '90s and I definitively wish and hope they do something like this on the next album.

05. Home

So close, it was my number 7. One of the crowning masterpiece of their "Mona Lisa" (random thought - I reserve the doubt to think that in Blind Faith "I painted my own Mona Lisa" is a reference to SFAM), a fun song to sing or hum along to (wha wha! wha wha!) and a bombastic chorus. The reprise of the Metropolis theme is fantastic. In retrospect, the sex noises are a bit cringey but whatever, this song rules and is probably the one that works most as an hypothetical "Metropolis pt. 2 as a single song", because of the musical and lyrical reprises.

Wim Kruithof

I love Home but do not like listen to the moan-part... the version on Greatest Hit I listen the most.

Only 26 / 11 / 2 and 1 left...

100: Untethered Angel
099: Anna Lee
098: A Savior In the Square
097: Invisible Monster
096: Beyond This Life    72
095: I Walk Beside You     15
094: S2n     spot on
093: Never Enough     7
092: The Great Debate     39
091: Caught In a Web     40
090: The Alien     21
089: Only a Matter of Time     7
088: Surrender to Reason     5
087: Forsaken     8
086: Through Her Eyes     12
085: The Silent Man     19
084: Constant Motion     2
083: Fall Into the Light     11
082: The Best of Times     5
081: Repentance
080: Wait for Sleep     36
079: On the Backs of Angels     23
078: Behind the Veil     11
077: Afterlife     19
076: Hollow Years     17
075: Ravenskill
074: Sacrified Sons     9
073: 6:00     39
072: Erotomania     32
071: Prophets of War
070: These Walls     16
069: Innocence Faded     27
068: The Enemy Inside     15
067: Pale Blue Dot     3
066: Fatal Tragedy     53
065: Another Day     27
064: Pull Me Under     50
063: Disappear     22
062: Peruvian Skies     18
061: Misunderstood     30
060: A Fortune in Lies     18
059: Hell's Kitchen     2
058: Status Seeker
057: A Rite of Passage
056: A Nightmare to Remember     6
055: Blind Faith     34
054: The Looking Glass     38
053: Raise the Knife     12
052: Under a Glass Moon     36
051: Panic Attack     5
050: Wither     49
049: Lifting Shadows Off a Dream     14
048: Transcending Time     42
047: Home     42
046: Barstool Warrior     6
045: The Root of All Evil     9
044: Ytse Jam     23
043: The Spirit Carries On     17
042: The Killing Hand     26
041: Sleeping Giant     44
040: Answering the Call     45
039: Another Hand - The Killing Hand
038: The Dance of Eternity     5
037: The Bigger Picture     23
036: Lines In the Sand     8
035: Bombay Vindaloo
034: As I Am     9
033: At Wit's End   4
032: Another Won
031: Endless Sacrifice     2
030: Space-Dye Vest     spot on
029: Awaken the Master     52
028: Stream of Conciousness     11
027: Honor Thy Father     44
026:
025: Lie     22
024: One Last Time     22
023: In the Name of God     12
022: Finally Free     3
021: Voices     13
020: Breaking All Illusions     13
019: Trial of Tears     14
018: Outcry     47
017: Beneath the Surface     49
016: The Shattered Fortress     63
015: The Mirror     12
014: This Dying Soul     33
013: The Glass Prison     2
012: Bridges In the Sky     11
011:
010: The Ministry of Lost Souls     51
009: Scarred     3
008: Surrounded     12
007: A View From the Top of the World     42
006: In the Presence of Enemies     16
005: Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence     4
004: Illumination Theory     21 highest
003: The Count of Tuscany     7
002:
001:

not ranked: 12 The Gift of Music / Vacant / Our New World / A New Beginning / This Is the Life / New Millennium / To Live Forever / Lost Not Forgotten / The Dark Eternal Night / Overture 1928 / Strange Deja Vu / Take the Time

devieira73

Trial of Tears (my #7). Is there a Top 10 DT song that isn't a masterpiece? ToT deserves all the praise and I would highlight the extremely tasty and cool grooves MP/JM played on all the song and that keyboad solo by Derek, with that AMAZING funky rhythm guitar by JP.

Home (my # 28). Love the intro, the killer soloing and the outro. I kind of "forgive" those TOOL's 46 & 2 very inspired bass lines, since I think JM took them and managed to perfected them. Amazing song!

Setlist Scotty

Quote from: jammindude on February 06, 2024, 06:18:07 AM
Trial of Tears - 6

Hey! I nailed the aggregate again!  Truly a wonderful song from beginning to end and definitely the highlight of FII

Home - 77

And there it is. The single most overrated song in the DT catalog.  I love the instrumental second half, which is the only reason it made the list at all. But I find the first half to be a bit of a plodding, slogfest.  But I still manage to get into the spirit of things whenever they do it live.
Knowing how you despise Home (or I guess the first half of it), I was surprised to see it make your list. Funny that you nailed ToT for the correct position. After a couple close calls, I ranked Home exactly at the aggregate for the first time.  :lol
Quote from: BlobVanDam on November 13, 2015, 07:37:14 PMAs a basic rule, if you hate it, you must solely blame Portnoy. If it's good, then you must downplay MP's contribution to the band as not being important anyway, or claim he's just lying. It's the DTF way.
Quote from: TAC on July 10, 2024, 08:26:41 AMPOW is awesome! :P

Indiscipline

Trial of Tears: 6. A song, a painting, a movie, and a poem in the same package.

Home: 51. Great riff, great lick, great chorus.

The Score so far:

2 - Scarred
3 - The Spirit Carries On
4 - Lines in the Sand
5 - In the Presence of Enemies
6 - Trial of Tears
7 - Misunderstood
9 - Space-Dye Vest
10 -  Voices
11 - Beyond This Life
13 - Breaking All Illusions
14 - Stream of Consciousness
16 - Under a Glass Moon
17 - Bridges in the Sky
19 - Illumination Theory
21 - A New Beginning
23 - Disappear
24 - Pull Me Under
25 - Surrounded
26 - Fatal Tragedy
27 - The Best of Times
28 - Outcry
31 - Erotomania
32 - Strange Deja-Vu
33 - Surrender to Reason
34 - Take the Time
35 - Finally Free
36 - This Is the Life
38 - Hell's Kitchen
39 - The Count of Tuscany
42 - Another Day
43 - One Last Time
45 - Vacant
46 - The Gift of Music
47 - Beneath the Surface
48 - The Silent Man
49 - Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence
50 - In the Name of God
51 - Home
54 - Peruvian Skies
55 - The Dance of Eternity
56 - The Bigger Picture
61 - Wait for Sleep
64 - Blind Faith
65 - Pale Blue Dot
68 - Our New World
69 - Overture 1928
70 - Innocence Faded
71 - Behind the Veil
72 - The Looking Glass
76 - Lifting Shadows Off a Dream
77 - At Wit's End
78 - Lie
79 - Hollow Years
87 - Ytse Jam
88 - The Mirror
89 - Through Her Eyes
90 - Lost Not Forgotten
91 - 6:00
92 - The Killing Hand
93 - Endless Sacrifice
95 - Barstool Warrior
96 - Fall Into the Light
97 - A Fortune in Lies

Not Ranked: 33

jammindude

Quote from: Setlist Scotty on February 06, 2024, 11:36:37 AM
Quote from: jammindude on February 06, 2024, 06:18:07 AM
Trial of Tears - 6

Hey! I nailed the aggregate again!  Truly a wonderful song from beginning to end and definitely the highlight of FII

Home - 77

And there it is. The single most overrated song in the DT catalog.  I love the instrumental second half, which is the only reason it made the list at all. But I find the first half to be a bit of a plodding, slogfest.  But I still manage to get into the spirit of things whenever they do it live.
Knowing how you despise Home (or I guess the first half of it), I was surprised to see it make your list. Funny that you nailed ToT for the correct position. After a couple close calls, I ranked Home exactly at the aggregate for the first time.  :lol

"Despise" is a very strong term. The first half is just kind of "there" and I really don't get what the big deal is. It just seems like such a "one note" chugga chugga for a band like DT and it feels like something that I've heard done so much by so many other bands. It's almost cliche I guess.

It's ok.  I just don't get the hype.