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Top Of The World Tour 2023

Started by jadiggerdt, November 09, 2022, 03:38:32 AM

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gzarruk

Since we were talking about things we'd like to see from DT for future tours, I'll talk about something I'd love to see them do, but will never happen, really :P

It'd be great to see them do something like Yes' Union tour, were we see all the current + some former members touring together. Again, not gonna happen, but still :lol

cramx3

Quote from: gzarruk on March 27, 2023, 09:15:42 AM
Since we were talking about things we'd like to see from DT for future tours, I'll talk about something I'd love to see them do, but will never happen, really :P

It'd be great to see them do something like Yes' Union tour, were we see all the current + some former members touring together. Again, not gonna happen, but still :lol

It would be cool to see them do like half a set with MP and half set with MM.  But, personally, I'm not too interested in anyone else performing with DT from the past.  Maybe Kevin Moore, but I feel like he's so disassociated with the band that the interest is probably not quite there anymore. I personally don't care about DS at all so there's also that.   Dominici had his moment of return to DT.

EPIC Outro


It feels to me inevitable that Mike Portnoy will be featured in some big show with them, maybe for their 40th or 50th anniversary.

TAC

Quote from: cramx3 on March 27, 2023, 10:09:21 AM

It would be cool to see them do like half a set with MP and half set with MM. 

Unless it's DT's last and final show, I can't think of anything worse.
Quote from: wkiml on June 08, 2012, 09:06:35 AMwould have thought the same thing but seeing the OP was TAC i immediately thought Maiden or DT related
Quote from: Stadler on February 08, 2025, 12:49:43 PMI wouldn't argue this.

Cool Chris

Quote from: TAC on March 27, 2023, 02:23:12 PM
Quote from: cramx3 on March 27, 2023, 10:09:21 AM

It would be cool to see them do like half a set with MP and half set with MM. 

Unless it's DT's last and final show, I can't think of anything worse.

Half a set with Charlie and Derek?
Maybe the grass is greener on the other side because you're not over there fucking it up.

pg1067

Maybe I'm just not paying attention to the right bands, but is this something that other bands do?  Just bring back ex members for concerts (much less an entire tour)?  I don't see Maiden inviting Beetle Bailey on stage to sing with them or Ripper Owens with Judas Priest.

Yes's Union was a slightly different thing in that it was a merger of two versions of the band with a single member common to both.  WDADRu was a pretty unique thing to my knowledge, and it seemed a bit out of place to have Derek there.

Bringing MP back for more than one song, unless it's a last and final show ever (or an RRHOF induction - LOL), would just be a terrible idea that would have no lasting effect, except to send us back to the "which Mike is better?" debate that dominated the first half of the 2010s and which occasionally pops up now.

DreamerTV

I don't think DT have more than 2 world tour left at the level we've been accustomed to in terms of venues and audiences (which are slowly but steadily declining for years now), so i really think we're closer to having MP back in some form.

cramx3

Quote from: Cool Chris on March 27, 2023, 02:59:24 PM
Quote from: TAC on March 27, 2023, 02:23:12 PM
Quote from: cramx3 on March 27, 2023, 10:09:21 AM

It would be cool to see them do like half a set with MP and half set with MM. 

Unless it's DT's last and final show, I can't think of anything worse.

Half a set with Charlie and Derek?

:lol yeah thats much worse.  I don't see what's so bad about 90 minutes with MP and 90 minutes with MM on some final DT tour or something that's honoring their history.  Of course I don't think that's a good idea for the band to do consistently.

Awaken

Quote from: pg1067 on March 27, 2023, 04:44:10 PM
Maybe I'm just not paying attention to the right bands, but is this something that other bands do?  Just bring back ex members for concerts (much less an entire tour)?  I don't see Maiden inviting Beetle Bailey on stage to sing with them or Ripper Owens with Judas Priest.

Yes's Union was a slightly different thing in that it was a merger of two versions of the band with a single member common to both.  WDADRu was a pretty unique thing to my knowledge, and it seemed a bit out of place to have Derek there.

Bringing MP back for more than one song, unless it's a last and final show ever (or an RRHOF induction - LOL), would just be a terrible idea that would have no lasting effect, except to send us back to the "which Mike is better?" debate that dominated the first half of the 2010s and which occasionally pops up now.

I've seen Fate's Warning do this for some one off shows, but nothing for entire tours that I can remember. 

ReaperKK

Quote from: Cool Chris on March 27, 2023, 02:59:24 PM
Quote from: TAC on March 27, 2023, 02:23:12 PM
Quote from: cramx3 on March 27, 2023, 10:09:21 AM

It would be cool to see them do like half a set with MP and half set with MM. 

Unless it's DT's last and final show, I can't think of anything worse.

Half a set with Charlie and Derek?

Unless I'm working or traveling I'll always catch DT when it comes through but if Derek is touring with them that will be an immediate pass.

hunnus2000

Didn't they already do the Charlie and Derek thing years ago?

pg1067

Quote from: hunnus2000 on March 29, 2023, 02:10:16 PM
Didn't they already do the Charlie and Derek thing years ago?

They performed during the When Dream and Day Reunite show in 2004.  Charlie did To Live Forever and Met1, and Derek played on Met1 (with an extended instrumental jam/keyboard duel between Derek and JR).

TheBarstoolWarrior

was it a sensitive and somewhat contentious issue at the time that Derek or Charlie should be allowed back into the band?
Disclaimer: All opinions stated are my own unless otherwise specified. I do not personally know any present or former members of DT. From time to time where the context is or should be obvious, I may decline to explicitly label my words as opinion. I cannot predict the future.

nobloodyname

Quote from: TheBarstoolWarrior on March 29, 2023, 05:02:28 PM
was it a sensitive and somewhat contentious issue at the time that Derek or Charlie should be allowed back into the band?

If I remember rightly, over at MP.com, a) it just wasn't that big a deal really, and b) we generally thought it was pretty cool.

hefdaddy42

Quote from: TheBarstoolWarrior on March 29, 2023, 05:02:28 PM
was it a sensitive and somewhat contentious issue at the time that Derek or Charlie should be allowed back into the band?
They weren't allowed back into the band.  It was a one-off, and it was fun, but I never want to see it again.
Quote from: BlobVanDam on December 11, 2014, 08:19:46 PMHef is right on all things. Except for when I disagree with him. In which case he's probably still right.

EPIC Outro


Charlie's appearance with Dream Theater that night helped him make three albums I really enjoyed. It's sad he didn't make more music after that.

pg1067

Quote from: TheBarstoolWarrior on March 29, 2023, 05:02:28 PM
was it a sensitive and somewhat contentious issue at the time that Derek or Charlie should be allowed back into the band?

You mean in 2004 at the WDADRu show?  No.  I don't think anyone (including Charlie) has ever said or though Charlie should return to DT.  And, as far as I know, no one has ever seriously suggested anything about Derek returning.  WDADRu was just an anniversary show that MP arranged.  He also reached out to Kevin Moore to appear and play, but KM ignored the entreaty.

TAC

Quote from: EPIC Outro on March 30, 2023, 08:07:34 AM

Charlie's appearance with Dream Theater that night helped him make three albums I really enjoyed. It's sad he didn't make more music after that.

He made quite a bit.
Quote from: wkiml on June 08, 2012, 09:06:35 AMwould have thought the same thing but seeing the OP was TAC i immediately thought Maiden or DT related
Quote from: Stadler on February 08, 2025, 12:49:43 PMI wouldn't argue this.

TheBarstoolWarrior

I would support MP coming onstage to play a song or two on the farewell tour. Outside of that inevitable tour, I see no reason for it to occur. I am quite pleased, to say the least, with the MM acquisition and think everyone including MP has been better off for it musically speaking.
Disclaimer: All opinions stated are my own unless otherwise specified. I do not personally know any present or former members of DT. From time to time where the context is or should be obvious, I may decline to explicitly label my words as opinion. I cannot predict the future.

countoftuscany42

I have a good feeling this thread will see some activity in the near future  ;) :corn

TAC

Quote from: wkiml on June 08, 2012, 09:06:35 AMwould have thought the same thing but seeing the OP was TAC i immediately thought Maiden or DT related
Quote from: Stadler on February 08, 2025, 12:49:43 PMI wouldn't argue this.

TheBarstoolWarrior

Quote from: countoftuscany42 on April 05, 2023, 12:42:46 PM
I have a good feeling this thread will see some activity in the near future  ;) :corn

Why?
Disclaimer: All opinions stated are my own unless otherwise specified. I do not personally know any present or former members of DT. From time to time where the context is or should be obvious, I may decline to explicitly label my words as opinion. I cannot predict the future.

DTiwbwMP

Quote from: TheBarstoolWarrior on March 30, 2023, 05:56:45 PM
I would support MP coming onstage to play a song or two returning on the farewell tour. Outside of that inevitable tour, I see no reason for it to occur. I am quite pleased, to say the least, with the MM acquisition and think everyone including MP has been better off for it musically speaking.

;)

TheBarstoolWarrior

Quote from: DTwwbwMP on April 05, 2023, 08:52:53 PM
Quote from: TheBarstoolWarrior on March 30, 2023, 05:56:45 PM
I would support MP coming onstage to play a song or two returning on the farewell tour. Outside of that inevitable tour, I see no reason for it to occur. I am quite pleased, to say the least, with the MM acquisition and think everyone including MP has been better off for it musically speaking.

;)

It's over, man lol
Disclaimer: All opinions stated are my own unless otherwise specified. I do not personally know any present or former members of DT. From time to time where the context is or should be obvious, I may decline to explicitly label my words as opinion. I cannot predict the future.


devieira73

I've posted this on Official Bootlegs thread, but it makes more sense here.
The AVFTTOTW tour is ending next month, right? So, if DT will release an official live Blu-Ray, they already filmed any show or planning to film one of the next? I didn't see anything about it.

EPIC Outro

I hope we get some kind of live album, but it would be a real shame if it didn't feature ALL the songs they played across this tour.

TheBarstoolWarrior

If it were filmed we would know about it. At this point the only hope is to film one of the remaining venues.

We've had recordings of every tour for over a decade so it would indeed be a shame not to have a record of this, but I feel that is the direction this is going in. Perhaps the band feels that the Rio recording was good enough to suffice - I disagree!
Disclaimer: All opinions stated are my own unless otherwise specified. I do not personally know any present or former members of DT. From time to time where the context is or should be obvious, I may decline to explicitly label my words as opinion. I cannot predict the future.

Architeuthis

Quote from: TheBarstoolWarrior on April 07, 2023, 03:18:44 PM
If it were filmed we would know about it. At this point the only hope is to film one of the remaining venues.

We've had recordings of every tour for over a decade so it would indeed be a shame not to have a record of this, but I feel that is the direction this is going in. Perhaps the band feels that the Rio recording was good enough to suffice - I disagree!
We didn't get a recording of The Astonishing tour and IAWAB (the Japanese TV recording isn't official). Also you are right, the Rio recording is not a good representation of the Top of the World tour at all.

Laughingplace56

I almost always prefer to listen to live versions of any band's music if there's high quality versions available (with the exception of Chaos in Motion), so even if there's no official CD/DVD release, I'd be very happy with even a soundboard recording released through LNFA. If they only do it for the second set list of the tour though, I'd be a little sad if they don't release a live recording of TMoLS; it was incredible live on that tour!

Also, those "spring US dates" that JLB said were possible are clearly not happening so here's hoping it still happens in the summer/fall!

gzarruk

They have a show booked at the Budokan not too far from now. Even if they don't plan to record and release it, last time they were there the show got recorded anyway by a Japanene network, so there's hope at least for some pro-shot footage of this show that isn't the RIR thing.

TAC

Quote from: countoftuscany42 on April 05, 2023, 12:42:46 PM
I have a good feeling this thread will see some activity in the near future  ;) :corn

:corn
Quote from: wkiml on June 08, 2012, 09:06:35 AMwould have thought the same thing but seeing the OP was TAC i immediately thought Maiden or DT related
Quote from: Stadler on February 08, 2025, 12:49:43 PMI wouldn't argue this.

Lonk


gzarruk

Well, that post did spark some activity in the thread, didn't it?  :P