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*Official* A View from the Top of the World discussion thread

Started by bosk1, October 21, 2021, 07:41:07 AM

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DreamerTV

Quote from: MirrorMask on November 09, 2022, 04:29:44 AM
Well, for starters in Italy they won't pass by Milan again, so they might indeed have a different cities schedule....

As far as i can see, they're playing smaller venues in different areas (Napoli is a first for them, for instance) - all seated, at least in Italy.
The prices are really, really high though.

Wim Kruithof

In Tilburg I know for sure it's small but not seated. At least not in the pit, it's were Transatlantic recorded the Live in Europe dvd. Best location in all Holland, if you ask me.

SwedishGoose

They will come to Stockholm, Sweden this time.... only Gothenburg last time. So I am happy.

Schurftkut

70,- a ticket for Groningen. I actually love seeing them again in a bit smaller venue this time around :-)

SwedishGoose

Got a ticket for the golden circle in Stockholm now....

No more tickets today..... both Peter Gabriel and Dream Theater were more expensive than I really want to pay

bosk1

Kev, can I resubmit mine, or do you already have my selections in the spreadsheet?  I hate to create more work, but I realized I somehow made a HUGE omission (given my personal favorites list).  It's just a matter of inserting one singer and moving everyone below down a spot.

Deadeye21

Quote from: bosk1 on November 13, 2022, 07:33:09 PM
Kev, can I resubmit mine, or do you already have my selections in the spreadsheet?  I hate to create more work, but I realized I somehow made a HUGE omission (given my personal favorites list).  It's just a matter of inserting one singer and moving everyone below down a spot.

Bosk, I think you posted this on the wrong thread.

gzarruk

Quote from: Deadeye21 on November 13, 2022, 08:12:54 PM
Quote from: bosk1 on November 13, 2022, 07:33:09 PM
Kev, can I resubmit mine, or do you already have my selections in the spreadsheet?  I hate to create more work, but I realized I somehow made a HUGE omission (given my personal favorites list).  It's just a matter of inserting one singer and moving everyone below down a spot.

Bosk, I think you posted this on the wrong thread.

It happens to the best of us :lol

bosk1


gzarruk

Didn't know where to post this, but the current lineup (Petrucci, Myung, LaBrie, Rudess, Mangini) is already the longest running DT lineup ever. 12 years! :metal

Max Kuehnau

Quote from: gzarruk on November 16, 2022, 08:08:31 AM
Didn't know where to post this, but the current lineup (Petrucci, Myung, LaBrie, Rudess, Mangini) is already the longest running DT lineup ever. 12 years! :metal
and long may they continue
All my natural instincts are begging me to stop
But somehow I carry on, heading for the top
A physical absurdity, a tremendous mental game
Helping me understand exactly who I am

bosk1

As I'm listening now, I just wanted to chime in to say that both Invisible Monster and Transcending Time (probably my initial bottom 2 on an album that is so consistently good that "bottom" has little meaning) are SO good!

TAC

Quote from: bosk1 on November 16, 2022, 10:31:31 AM
As I'm listening now, I just wanted to chime in to say that both Invisible Monster and Transcending Time (probably my initial bottom 2 on an album that is so consistently good that "bottom" has little meaning) are SO good!

It's a great album.
Quote from: wkiml on June 08, 2012, 09:06:35 AMwould have thought the same thing but seeing the OP was TAC i immediately thought Maiden or DT related
Quote from: Stadler on February 08, 2025, 12:49:43 PMI wouldn't argue this.

geeeemo

This album is better than d/t. The only caveat is the d/t has At Wit's end.
A View has no skips and any song could be a favorite on any given day.

Stadler

Quote from: bosk1 on November 16, 2022, 10:31:31 AM
As I'm listening now, I just wanted to chime in to say that both Invisible Monster and Transcending Time (probably my initial bottom 2 on an album that is so consistently good that "bottom" has little meaning) are SO good!

I agree on the consistency, but just for conversational purposes, and to attest to that consistency, you've listed my favorite (Transcending Time) and least favorite (Invisible Monster) songs on the album.

hefdaddy42

Quote from: Stadler on November 16, 2022, 11:36:54 AM
Quote from: bosk1 on November 16, 2022, 10:31:31 AM
As I'm listening now, I just wanted to chime in to say that both Invisible Monster and Transcending Time (probably my initial bottom 2 on an album that is so consistently good that "bottom" has little meaning) are SO good!

I agree on the consistency, but just for conversational purposes, and to attest to that consistency, you've listed my favorite (Transcending Time) and least favorite (Invisible Monster) songs on the album.
Same here.
Quote from: BlobVanDam on December 11, 2014, 08:19:46 PMHef is right on all things. Except for when I disagree with him. In which case he's probably still right.

Dream Team

Quote from: gzarruk on November 16, 2022, 08:08:31 AM
Didn't know where to post this, but the current lineup (Petrucci, Myung, LaBrie, Rudess, Mangini) is already the longest running DT lineup ever. 12 years! :metal

That's crazy! The lineup from 1999-2009 packed a LOT into those years so it seemed longer than it was I guess.

TAC

Quote from: Dream Team on November 17, 2022, 06:35:46 AM
Quote from: gzarruk on November 16, 2022, 08:08:31 AM
Didn't know where to post this, but the current lineup (Petrucci, Myung, LaBrie, Rudess, Mangini) is already the longest running DT lineup ever. 12 years! :metal

That's crazy! The lineup from 1999-2009 packed a LOT into those years so it seemed longer than it was I guess.

Well, only one more studio album than the 2011-current lineup. They each have 3 live releases.
Quote from: wkiml on June 08, 2012, 09:06:35 AMwould have thought the same thing but seeing the OP was TAC i immediately thought Maiden or DT related
Quote from: Stadler on February 08, 2025, 12:49:43 PMI wouldn't argue this.

goo-goo

Quote from: geeeemo on November 16, 2022, 11:20:57 AM
This album is better than d/t. The only caveat is the d/t has At Wit's end.
A View has no skips and any song could be a favorite on any given day.

The beauty about music is everyone has different opinions and tastes. I find d/t way better than Top of the World. Feels more organic, more consistent, and everyone was together when writing the album. The writing sessions were different with Top of the World due to the pandemic so I feel James' presence was not as consistent as with the d/t writing sessions. And this is where, in my opinion, d/t has way better constructed vocal melodies than Top of the World, which is what I believe has not made Top of the World, up high in my album rankings in the Mangini era.

EPIC Outro


As far as two back-to-back DT albums, DOT and AVFTTOTW compliment each other REALLY well.

gzarruk

Quote from: EPIC Outro on November 24, 2022, 06:26:27 PM

As far as two back-to-back DT albums, DOT and AVFTTOTW compliment each other REALLY well.

Same as with ADTOE/DT12 :tup

... and TA is a double, so technically it compliments itself really well :P

TheBarstoolWarrior

DoT and View are also great back-to-back. Actually, they could be part of a double disc set.
Disclaimer: All opinions stated are my own unless otherwise specified. I do not personally know any present or former members of DT. From time to time where the context is or should be obvious, I may decline to explicitly label my words as opinion. I cannot predict the future.

Wim Kruithof

Quote from: gzarruk on November 25, 2022, 10:43:22 AM
... and TA is a double, so technically it compliments itself really well :P

Lol... and I'll agree as well.

wolfking

Quote from: goo-goo on November 17, 2022, 07:48:54 AM
Quote from: geeeemo on November 16, 2022, 11:20:57 AM
This album is better than d/t. The only caveat is the d/t has At Wit's end.
A View has no skips and any song could be a favorite on any given day.

The beauty about music is everyone has different opinions and tastes. I find d/t way better than Top of the World. Feels more organic, more consistent, and everyone was together when writing the album. The writing sessions were different with Top of the World due to the pandemic so I feel James' presence was not as consistent as with the d/t writing sessions. And this is where, in my opinion, d/t has way better constructed vocal melodies than Top of the World, which is what I believe has not made Top of the World, up high in my album rankings in the Mangini era.

Agree.  DOT is better than A View in every single possible way imaginable IMO.

Mladen

Both pale in comparison to The Astonishing, though. Significantly.

Architeuthis

Quote from: Mladen on December 20, 2022, 02:47:14 AM
Both pale in comparison to The Astonishing, though. Significantly.
I'm glad somebody is willing to say that, and I agree on the most part.  I have been listening to d/t a lot lately though, and View.

TheBarstoolWarrior

prediction: the next album will create a DT 'trinity' (of sorts) from DoT to DT16. 
Disclaimer: All opinions stated are my own unless otherwise specified. I do not personally know any present or former members of DT. From time to time where the context is or should be obvious, I may decline to explicitly label my words as opinion. I cannot predict the future.

The Letter M

Quote from: TheBarstoolWarrior on December 20, 2022, 02:01:43 PM
prediction: the next album will create a DT 'trinity' (of sorts) from DoT to DT16.

If it's another 60-75 minute non-concept album with 6-10 songs, then I could see that happening, but I could also see them wanting to change gears again and do something completely different after DOT/AVFTTOTW.

-Marc.

TheBarstoolWarrior

Quote from: The Letter M on December 20, 2022, 02:04:52 PM
Quote from: TheBarstoolWarrior on December 20, 2022, 02:01:43 PM
prediction: the next album will create a DT 'trinity' (of sorts) from DoT to DT16.

If it's another 60-75 minute non-concept album with 6-10 songs, then I could see that happening, but I could also see them wanting to change gears again and do something completely different after DOT/AVFTTOTW.

-Marc.

I would prefer something a little different - I realize that could mean a lot of things- but I suspect it will be exactly what you describe though. If the songwriting is super strong (as it was for much of DoT and some of View), I'll be happy but probably still be looking for something to differentiate it from the previous 2 efforts.
Disclaimer: All opinions stated are my own unless otherwise specified. I do not personally know any present or former members of DT. From time to time where the context is or should be obvious, I may decline to explicitly label my words as opinion. I cannot predict the future.

Kram

Quote from: TheBarstoolWarrior on December 20, 2022, 02:16:00 PM
Quote from: The Letter M on December 20, 2022, 02:04:52 PM
Quote from: TheBarstoolWarrior on December 20, 2022, 02:01:43 PM
prediction: the next album will create a DT 'trinity' (of sorts) from DoT to DT16.

If it's another 60-75 minute non-concept album with 6-10 songs, then I could see that happening, but I could also see them wanting to change gears again and do something completely different after DOT/AVFTTOTW.

-Marc.

I would prefer something a little different - I realize that could mean a lot of things- but I suspect it will be exactly what you describe though. If the songwriting is super strong (as it was for much of DoT and some of View), I'll be happy but probably still be looking for something to differentiate it from the previous 2 efforts.
The last two albums are great but I would welcome something different.

Glasser

I would love to hear them to an old school prog rock album musically like Rush Hemispheres and 2112.

gzarruk

I'd like to see something different too, and I'm sure they will, but I'm having a hard time trying to picture what that could be so far in their career. They've done pretty much everyting within the genere.

Mladen

Quote from: The Letter M on December 20, 2022, 02:04:52 PM
Quote from: TheBarstoolWarrior on December 20, 2022, 02:01:43 PM
prediction: the next album will create a DT 'trinity' (of sorts) from DoT to DT16.

If it's another 60-75 minute non-concept album with 6-10 songs, then I could see that happening, but I could also see them wanting to change gears again and do something completely different after DOT/AVFTTOTW.

-Marc.
Last time they decided to do something completely different, they lost a quarter of their fanbase. I think we know what to expect from them nowadays.

DoctorAction

Base tracks recorded live together. No click track. Dial back the super-neat production. Leave the rough edges in there. Be fantastic to hear the guys play TOGETHER like that.

bosk1

Given that they don't like recording in any of the aspects you described, I think any of that is a long shot.