*Official* A View from the Top of the World discussion thread

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cramx3

I'm actually shocked you have a few progressive metal bands nominated.  I'm not sure DT wins this, but they have about as good of a shot as the others.  I'm not sure there's a huge popularity difference between these bands.  Gojira seems hot right now though, I would pick that song over the others personally too.

Ben_Jamin

Quote from: cramx3 on November 23, 2021, 01:18:57 PM
I'm actually shocked you have a few progressive metal bands nominated.  I'm not sure DT wins this, but they have about as good of a shot as the others.  I'm not sure there's a huge popularity difference between these bands.  Gojira seems hot right now though, I would pick that song over the others personally too.

All the bands on there are good. Hats off to the Grammys for actually having great contenders for this category.

I'm having a hard time deciding who might come out. I am guessing Gojira as well. Although Mastodon and Rob Zombie are up there.

cramx3

I'd be shocked if Rob Zombie won, his music is not deserving IMO and I'm saying that as someone who enjoys his new album.  It's just not on the same level as the others, but what do I know.

LKap13

Grammy's over there saying DT greatest this and that...pfft

devieira73

https://fb.watch/9u2clZk3Nh/

"Dream Theater are so honored to be nominated for a GRAMMY this year in the Best Metal Performance category! 'The Alien' was the first track that we wrote for the new album when we all convened to write last October. We are thrilled to have it be recognized in this way. We are in some amazing company with this year's nominees and wish them all the best of luck! #Grammys"

Madman Shepherd

Quote from: Architeuthis on November 23, 2021, 01:12:56 PM
Quote from: gmillerdrake on November 23, 2021, 12:03:43 PM
Quote from: lonestar on November 23, 2021, 11:04:21 AM
Not sure if it got mentioned elsewhere, but The Alien gets a Grammy nod for Best metal Performance.

That's pretty cool...I did see that. It'd be great for these guys to get a win even though we all know the Grammy's are a popularity contest and those who win aren't necessarily 'the best'. But, for the longevity of their career and the fact that they submitted for consideration so you know they'd like to get one....I hope they eventually get the recognition.
True story, it is more of a popularity contest.  Some of the bands on the list are Gojira, Mastadon, and Rob Zombie. The likelyhood of DT winning that is slim, even though The Alien is probably the most musical song in the category.   I'm sure the other songs are a lot shorter and the judges will gravitate towards that, but who knows.
Dream Theater definitely deserves an accolade in this dept..   :tup

Because it is a popularity contest and the Grammys have no credibility *especially* in this category, they may look at the fact that this is DT's 3rd nomination and be like, "yeah, lets vote for them."

I think they have a pretty good chance of winning.

cramx3

I'd say they have a solid shot but honestly it's my least favorite song on the album. I'd be rooting so much harder if I didn't like some of the other nominated songs better.

Architeuthis

Quote from: cramx3 on November 24, 2021, 08:06:33 AM
I'd say they have a solid shot but honestly it's my least favorite song on the album. I'd be rooting so much harder if I didn't like some of the other nominated songs better.
I listened to the Gojira song,  and is nowhere near as good as The Alien imo. It did have some cool drumming in it though.

geeeemo

Quote from: Architeuthis on November 24, 2021, 11:07:34 AM
Quote from: cramx3 on November 24, 2021, 08:06:33 AM
I'd say they have a solid shot but honestly it's my least favorite song on the album. I'd be rooting so much harder if I didn't like some of the other nominated songs better.
I listened to the Gojira song,  and is nowhere near as good as The Alien imo. It did have some cool drumming in it though.

I listened to all of them. I was not familiar with any of the songs, but had seen Gojira in concert. I like Gojira ok, but not that type of vocals. The only other one I kind of liked was the Mastadon song, but like the Alien better. What I love about The Alien, is that when if finishes I think, wow! It has a great ending and doesn't feel like a 10 minute song.

cramx3

Gojira is not for everyone, I don't expect DT fans to pick them over DT.  To me, I just really loved that entire album and that may actually be my favorite track from the album. 


gmillerdrake

Quote from: cramx3 on November 24, 2021, 08:06:33 AM
I'd say they have a solid shot

'IF' it were being truly judged on the 'best' song for the category DT would win hands down. Listening to all the songs (or at least the ones I could get through) there really isn't much competition to be had here. DT stands out as the clear 'better' song.

geeeemo

So what is the difference between best song and best performance? 

wolfking

Quote from: gmillerdrake on November 24, 2021, 12:52:23 PM
Quote from: cramx3 on November 24, 2021, 08:06:33 AM
I'd say they have a solid shot

'IF' it were being truly judged on the 'best' song for the category DT would win hands down. Listening to all the songs (or at least the ones I could get through) there really isn't much competition to be had here. DT stands out as the clear 'better' song.

I'd easily take the Mastodon song over DT.

bosk1


TAC

Quote from: wkiml on June 08, 2012, 09:06:35 AMwould have thought the same thing but seeing the OP was TAC i immediately thought Maiden or DT related
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Setlist Scotty

Quote from: wolfking on November 24, 2021, 06:17:13 PM
Quote from: gmillerdrake on November 24, 2021, 12:52:23 PM
Quote from: cramx3 on November 24, 2021, 08:06:33 AM
I'd say they have a solid shot

'IF' it were being truly judged on the 'best' song for the category DT would win hands down. Listening to all the songs (or at least the ones I could get through) there really isn't much competition to be had here. DT stands out as the clear 'better' song.

I'd easily take the Mastodon song over DT.
Was gonna give a clever comeback but decided to give it and the other 3 other nominees a spin just so I could fairly judge them, and quite honestly, all of them except for the Deftones track were better than I expected, despite the fact that I'm not a fan of any of them. In particular, the Mastodon had parts that I actually liked (a first for me). That said, I'd still take The Alien over all of them in a heartbeat!
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TheBarstoolWarrior

when I listen to the Alien, I just hear a band that is lightyears ahead of the other grammy nominees, and a song that pretty damn good. The only reason I even criticize it is because I am a DT fan  :biggrin:
Disclaimer: All opinions stated are my own unless otherwise specified. I do not personally know any present or former members of DT. From time to time where the context is or should be obvious, I may decline to explicitly label my words as opinion. I cannot predict the future.

gzarruk

Quote from: TAC on November 24, 2021, 06:48:04 PM
Quote from: bosk1 on November 24, 2021, 06:46:20 PM
I'd easily take Mastodon over a root canal.

The root of all evil canal.

:lol

Tried listening to Mastodon once... not my cup of tea at all.

wolfking

Jeez, you really can't say anything remotely negative about DT or say you like something better than DT on this side of the forum hey.

bosk1


Enigmachine

"I'd easily take the Mastodon song over DT." followed by a quip, a pun, someone about to make a comeback but actually saying the song's pretty good, someone saying that they simply vastly prefer DT to the others and someone saying Mastodon isn't for them. It's hardly being shouted down, really.

For what it's worth, I think both the Mastodon and DT track are fantastic, although I haven't yet listened to Hushed and Grim. My preference would probably depend on if I was in the mood for something either visceral and cathartic, or intricate and grandiose. Love the energy of both.

Buddyhunter1

I'm hoping for a Gojira win as that's easily my favorite song there, but I like The Alien and Pushing The Tides as well so it's cool that they were nominated!

I like Deftones but I really hope Genesis doesn't win. NOT one of their better songs.
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gmillerdrake

Just saw that Mastadon performed on Seth Meyers recently so that should pretty much seal up the Grammy for them. It is a popularity contest so the fact they're at least getting that C level celebrity style exposure gives them a leg up.

Ben_Jamin

Quote from: gmillerdrake on November 25, 2021, 11:05:56 AM
Just saw that Mastadon performed on Seth Meyers recently so that should pretty much seal up the Grammy for them. It is a popularity contest so the fact they're at least getting that C level celebrity style exposure gives them a leg up.

Seth Meyers also had Mario, Gojira's Drummer, on as a guest drummer.


Elite

Quote from: Architeuthis on November 23, 2021, 01:12:56 PM
the most musical song in the category.

What does this mean?

Genuine question, I don't get why you would use the word 'musical' to describe a song, since every song is per definition 'musical'. seems like a strange adjective to use.
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countoftuscany42

I wouldn't read too much into a late night appearance, they've been on late night before and Brann has done Seth Meyer's guest drummer spot in the past.  I would only consider that a leg up over DT who likely won't get that type of exposure, at least not with a song as long as The Alien, but Deftones, Gojira, and Rob Zombie are all huge artists for the US rock/metal festival circuit and are probably all more mainstream than DT.  One of the strongest lineups of Grammy metal nominees that I can remember, and honestly anything feels like it could take the award with DT as the "underdog" choice.  I'm pulling for DT but would be thrilled for Mastodon or Gojira too  :metal

nikatapi

Pretty cool group of nominees, i only haven't heard Rob Zombie's song, but the rest are all great and in the top of my lists for this year. Of course i'd hope that DT would win, but i'll be happy with Mastodon / Gojira as well.

Architeuthis

Quote from: Elite on November 25, 2021, 11:30:54 AM
Quote from: Architeuthis on November 23, 2021, 01:12:56 PM
the most musical song in the category.

What does this mean?

Genuine question, I don't get why you would use the word 'musical' to describe a song, since every song is per definition 'musical'. seems like a strange adjective to use.
I meant even though it is in the metal category,  the Alien is more melodic with catchier hooks and a lot more instrumentation used to the full.  The song is loaded with beautiful guitar solos, keyboard solos, and very complex rhythm sections.  Nice soaring vocal melodies to top it all off.   
I think it's safe to say that some songs are more musical than others. Even within DTs music.  Barstool Warrior is more musical than Burning My Soul etc..  😁

Dream Team

Anyone remember how DT ever got nominated the first time? Kinda bizarre when you think about it. Was it for On The Backs Of Angels?

cramx3

If this were a popularity context, Rob Zombie would win. Pretty sure he's the biggest name on the list, but that song is probably the worst on the list. (and I do actually like it, and his new album).

Also, from what I see, it looks like Mastadon performed Teardrinker not Pushing the Tides on Seth Myers.  I like both songs, but Teardrinker is a more melodic and catchier song IMO.  If that were up for a grammy, I might have favored it over Gojira.

gzarruk

Quote from: Dream Team on November 26, 2021, 07:16:54 AM
Anyone remember how DT ever got nominated the first time? Kinda bizarre when you think about it. Was it for On The Backs Of Angels?

Yeah, it was for OTBOA. I still remember MP making comments about how the nomination wasn't really because of the song but because of their 25+ year career. Man, was he bitter back then :lol

hunnus2000

What was the second time they were nominated for a grammy?

Madman Shepherd

Quote from: hunnus2000 on November 26, 2021, 09:52:23 AM
What was the second time they were nominated for a grammy?

1st time: On the Backs of Angels
2nd time: The Enemy Inside

I remember reading an interview where someone asked them if they were attending the grammys again and they were like, "Nah. First time we couldn't pass up because we weren't sure if we'd ever get the opportunity again."  I think they even had to cancel a show to go. They weren't going to do that a second time. Probably won't do it this time. It was funny watching them be interviewed on the red carpet because the interviewer clearly didn't know who they were but had to pretend to be super enthusiastic. Weird ass pageantry if you ask me.