DT15: A View From The Top Of The World (Timeline for DT15)

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TheBarstoolWarrior

Quote from: Bacong on October 15, 2021, 11:19:45 PM
Quote from: TheBarstoolWarrior on October 15, 2021, 12:06:12 PM
next 7 days is going to be painful lol. I am hoping that Amazon ships my album early. I am getting the impression that people think the 2 singles are the weakest songs on the record, which would be great.

invisible monster is def the worst song on the record

Which is the best?
Disclaimer: All opinions stated are my own unless otherwise specified. I do not personally know any present or former members of DT. From time to time where the context is or should be obvious, I may decline to explicitly label my words as opinion. I cannot predict the future.

Fritzinger

Quote from: Pax on October 15, 2021, 10:26:40 AM
Does the album (especially the epic) have some insane instrumental atonal-like sections, like ITPOE (the reckoning), or that sick section form Haken's Crystallized?

I hope I'm allowed to say this, otherwise please delete!

Yes it does.

Bacong

Quote from: TheBarstoolWarrior on October 16, 2021, 07:41:23 AM
Quote from: Bacong on October 15, 2021, 11:19:45 PM
Quote from: TheBarstoolWarrior on October 15, 2021, 12:06:12 PM
next 7 days is going to be painful lol. I am hoping that Amazon ships my album early. I am getting the impression that people think the 2 singles are the weakest songs on the record, which would be great.

invisible monster is def the worst song on the record

Which is the best?

they're all very similar.

DTiwbwMP

Quote from: Bacong on October 15, 2021, 11:19:45 PM
Quote from: TheBarstoolWarrior on October 15, 2021, 12:06:12 PM
next 7 days is going to be painful lol. I am hoping that Amazon ships my album early. I am getting the impression that people think the 2 singles are the weakest songs on the record, which would be great.

invisible monster is def the worst song on the record

DEFINITELY! :tup


Glasser

#4554
Quote from: DTwwbwMP on October 16, 2021, 09:59:51 AM
Quote from: Bacong on October 15, 2021, 11:19:45 PM
Quote from: TheBarstoolWarrior on October 15, 2021, 12:06:12 PM
next 7 days is going to be painful lol. I am hoping that Amazon ships my album early. I am getting the impression that people think the 2 singles are the weakest songs on the record, which would be great.

invisible monster is def the worst song on the record

DEFINITELY! :tup

I actually love both singles. I think you will appreciate them more listening to the album start to finish. The problem with singles, especially in this genre is we have a tendency to dissect every damn note because we are trying to decode where the album is headed. Truth is when you hear the full album you have more to digest and less time to sit with a single for weeks of frustration.

geeeemo

Quote from: Glasser on October 16, 2021, 10:12:18 AM
Quote from: DTwwbwMP on October 16, 2021, 09:59:51 AM
Quote from: Bacong on October 15, 2021, 11:19:45 PM
Quote from: TheBarstoolWarrior on October 15, 2021, 12:06:12 PM
next 7 days is going to be painful lol. I am hoping that Amazon ships my album early. I am getting the impression that people think the 2 singles are the weakest songs on the record, which would be great.

invisible monster is def the worst song on the record

DEFINITELY! :tup

I actually love both singles. I think you will appreciate them more listening to the album start to finish. The problem with singles, especially in this genre is we have a tendency to dissect every damn note because we are trying to decode where the album is headed. Truth is when you hear the full album you have more to digest and less time to sit with a single for weeks of frustration.

This could be true for some, but when I came on board to DT music, they had all their discography thru TA. I got into them by bouncing around all the albums, finding favorite songs. Then after awhile would listen to the entire album to see if there was more great stuff. Only Scenes and TA bettered themselves by listening to them as a whole for me. However, there were Numerous songs that took loads of listens to "get". And many (Octavarium, BAI, This is the Life for example) became favorites later.

SeRoX

According to most reviews I've read there is less hype about the title song but more hype for Sleeping Giant and Awaken the Master. For DoT, the band seemed to hype about Pale Blue DoT but people like At Wit's End and even Barstool Warrior more.

We'll see how it goes in one week.

TheBarstoolWarrior

Disclaimer: All opinions stated are my own unless otherwise specified. I do not personally know any present or former members of DT. From time to time where the context is or should be obvious, I may decline to explicitly label my words as opinion. I cannot predict the future.

Blazinarps

Quote from: Fritzinger on October 16, 2021, 09:02:06 AM
Quote from: Pax on October 15, 2021, 10:26:40 AM
Does the album (especially the epic) have some insane instrumental atonal-like sections, like ITPOE (the reckoning), or that sick section form Haken's Crystallized?

I hope I'm allowed to say this, otherwise please delete!

Yes it does.

I was surprised the *Mozart section* was so atonal.

dparrott

Quote from: Dream Team on October 16, 2021, 06:58:26 AM
Quote from: TheBarstoolWarrior on October 15, 2021, 04:20:29 PM
Or if you subscribe to a streaming service it'll probably be available there at midnight.

Yeah I use a streaming service. My question was regarding having a hard copy for the road trip.

Yea good luck streaming this album on a road trip!  :lol  That's a looooot of data.  If there's a reason for CD's to be made it's DT.

Trav

Has anyone heard anything from lasercd.com about when the art book will ship?

Glasser

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Quote from: Trav86 on October 16, 2021, 02:16:54 PM
Has anyone heard anything from lasercd.com about when the art book will ship?

Hit them up, Ken answers emails pretty quickly.

Architeuthis

Quote from: DTwwbwMP on October 16, 2021, 09:59:51 AM
Quote from: Bacong on October 15, 2021, 11:19:45 PM
Quote from: TheBarstoolWarrior on October 15, 2021, 12:06:12 PM
next 7 days is going to be painful lol. I am hoping that Amazon ships my album early. I am getting the impression that people think the 2 singles are the weakest songs on the record, which would be great.

invisible monster is def the worst song on the record

DEFINITELY! :tup
Well if invisible monster is the worst song, then that's great news!  I love that song, so it means that it's all up hill from there and the album is gonna be amazing..   :coolio

TAC

Quote from: Architeuthis on October 16, 2021, 03:22:33 PM
Quote from: DTwwbwMP on October 16, 2021, 09:59:51 AM
Quote from: Bacong on October 15, 2021, 11:19:45 PM
Quote from: TheBarstoolWarrior on October 15, 2021, 12:06:12 PM
next 7 days is going to be painful lol. I am hoping that Amazon ships my album early. I am getting the impression that people think the 2 singles are the weakest songs on the record, which would be great.

invisible monster is def the worst song on the record

DEFINITELY! :tup
Well if invisible monster is the worst song, then that's great news!  I love that song, so it means that it's all up hill from there and the album is gonna be amazing..   :coolio

It's better than the worst song on every other Mangini Era album.
Quote from: wkiml on June 08, 2012, 09:06:35 AMwould have thought the same thing but seeing the OP was TAC i immediately thought Maiden or DT related
Quote from: Stadler on February 08, 2025, 12:49:43 PMI wouldn't argue this.

Trav

Quote from: TAC on October 16, 2021, 03:28:37 PM
Quote from: Architeuthis on October 16, 2021, 03:22:33 PM
Quote from: DTwwbwMP on October 16, 2021, 09:59:51 AM
Quote from: Bacong on October 15, 2021, 11:19:45 PM
Quote from: TheBarstoolWarrior on October 15, 2021, 12:06:12 PM
next 7 days is going to be painful lol. I am hoping that Amazon ships my album early. I am getting the impression that people think the 2 singles are the weakest songs on the record, which would be great.

invisible monster is def the worst song on the record

DEFINITELY! :tup
Well if invisible monster is the worst song, then that's great news!  I love that song, so it means that it's all up hill from there and the album is gonna be amazing..   :coolio

It's better than the worst song on every other Mangini Era album.

I hadn't thought about it. But, yeah.

sfam2112

Quote from: Glasser on October 16, 2021, 02:41:02 PM
Quote from: Trav86 on October 16, 2021, 02:16:54 PM
Has anyone heard anything from lasercd.com about when the art book will ship?

Hit them up, Ken answers emails pretty quickly.

Indeed. I got a fast reply. This is the response I got:

QuoteWe start shipping this Monday and Tuesday.

UndercoverMyung

https://www.blabbermouth.net/news/dream-theater-keyboardist-says-first-two-singles-from-a-view-from-the-top-of-the-world-are-not-fully-representative-of-album/

"DREAM THEATER Keyboardist Says First Two Singles From 'A View From The Top Of The World' Are Not Fully Representative Of Album"

"So anybody who's listening to this and hasn't heard the album yet, know that there's a whole lot more going on stylistically than either of those songs."

TheBarstoolWarrior

Quote from: TAC on October 16, 2021, 03:28:37 PM
Quote from: Architeuthis on October 16, 2021, 03:22:33 PM
Quote from: DTwwbwMP on October 16, 2021, 09:59:51 AM
Quote from: Bacong on October 15, 2021, 11:19:45 PM
Quote from: TheBarstoolWarrior on October 15, 2021, 12:06:12 PM
next 7 days is going to be painful lol. I am hoping that Amazon ships my album early. I am getting the impression that people think the 2 singles are the weakest songs on the record, which would be great.

invisible monster is def the worst song on the record

DEFINITELY! :tup
Well if invisible monster is the worst song, then that's great news!  I love that song, so it means that it's all up hill from there and the album is gonna be amazing..   :coolio

It's better than the worst song on every other Mangini Era album.

Actually that is a great way of thinking about it! It is indeed better than Build Me Up, Along for the Ride, every song on the Astonishing, but hmmm...Distance Over Time? I'd say the weakest song there is Fall Into the Light, Room 137 or Viper King. It's a close call tbh.
Disclaimer: All opinions stated are my own unless otherwise specified. I do not personally know any present or former members of DT. From time to time where the context is or should be obvious, I may decline to explicitly label my words as opinion. I cannot predict the future.

TAC

Fall Into The Light is awesome!!


I'd take Invisible Monster over Room 137, Out Of Reach, and Paralyzed.
Quote from: wkiml on June 08, 2012, 09:06:35 AMwould have thought the same thing but seeing the OP was TAC i immediately thought Maiden or DT related
Quote from: Stadler on February 08, 2025, 12:49:43 PMI wouldn't argue this.

KevShmev

Fall into the Light might be the best song of the Mangini era.  I would say it is in that convo with At Wit's End, Three Days, Ravenskill, Bridges in the Sky and Breaking All Illusions.

TheBarstoolWarrior

Quote from: TAC on October 16, 2021, 06:24:47 PM
Fall Into The Light is awesome!!


I'd take Invisible Monster over Room 137, Out Of Reach, and Paralyzed.

I really like the instrumental section on FITL. I think it's the chorus that I don't like.

Maybe IM is better than Room 137 though I've begun to appreciate that groove more. I think Out of Reach might be DT's most underrated ballad.
Disclaimer: All opinions stated are my own unless otherwise specified. I do not personally know any present or former members of DT. From time to time where the context is or should be obvious, I may decline to explicitly label my words as opinion. I cannot predict the future.

SeRoX

Musically one of the best but it suffers lacking interesting vocal melodies.

TAC

Invisible Monster sounds like it could've come off of DT12. I'm honestly surprised at the grief it's getting.

Like DTwwbwMP says, if IM is the worst song, this is a hell of an album.



Quote from: UndercoverMyung on October 16, 2021, 06:17:59 PM
https://www.blabbermouth.net/news/dream-theater-keyboardist-says-first-two-singles-from-a-view-from-the-top-of-the-world-are-not-fully-representative-of-album/

"DREAM THEATER Keyboardist Says First Two Singles From 'A View From The Top Of The World' Are Not Fully Representative Of Album"

"So anybody who's listening to this and hasn't heard the album yet, know that there's a whole lot more going on stylistically than either of those songs."

I feel like JR  has maybe heard some criticisms. I don't know why else he'd say something like this. I feel like The Alien is exactly representative of the album.


Quote from: TheBarstoolWarrior on October 16, 2021, 06:27:49 PM
I think Out of Reach might be DT's most underrated ballad.

I think Out Of Reach is literally one of the worst songs they've ever done. :)
Quote from: wkiml on June 08, 2012, 09:06:35 AMwould have thought the same thing but seeing the OP was TAC i immediately thought Maiden or DT related
Quote from: Stadler on February 08, 2025, 12:49:43 PMI wouldn't argue this.

UndercoverMyung

Quote from: TAC on October 16, 2021, 06:29:47 PM
Invisible Monster sounds like it could've come off of DT12. I'm honestly surprised at the grief it's getting.

Like DTwwbwMP says, if IM is the worst song, this is a hell of an album.



Quote from: UndercoverMyung on October 16, 2021, 06:17:59 PM
https://www.blabbermouth.net/news/dream-theater-keyboardist-says-first-two-singles-from-a-view-from-the-top-of-the-world-are-not-fully-representative-of-album/

"DREAM THEATER Keyboardist Says First Two Singles From 'A View From The Top Of The World' Are Not Fully Representative Of Album"

"So anybody who's listening to this and hasn't heard the album yet, know that there's a whole lot more going on stylistically than either of those songs."

I feel like JR  has maybe heard some criticisms. I don't know why else he'd say something like this. I feel like The Alien is exactly representative of the album.


Quote from: TheBarstoolWarrior on October 16, 2021, 06:27:49 PM
I think Out of Reach might be DT's most underrated ballad.

I think Out Of Reach is literally one of the worst songs they've ever done. :)

He actually says later in the interview that The Alien is a good representation of the album compared to IM.

TAC

Quote from: wkiml on June 08, 2012, 09:06:35 AMwould have thought the same thing but seeing the OP was TAC i immediately thought Maiden or DT related
Quote from: Stadler on February 08, 2025, 12:49:43 PMI wouldn't argue this.

TheBarstoolWarrior

I could see Alien being representative. I just hope the rest is a little less predictable than Alien :)
Disclaimer: All opinions stated are my own unless otherwise specified. I do not personally know any present or former members of DT. From time to time where the context is or should be obvious, I may decline to explicitly label my words as opinion. I cannot predict the future.

darkshade

I'm not saying Out Of Reach is amazing, but it has its moments.

I like ADTOE, but the only songs I cherry pick with any regularity since ADTOE is:

Barstool Warrior
Viper King
Behind the Veil
At Wit's End

SeRoX

Quote from: TAC on October 16, 2021, 06:29:47 PM

I think Out Of Reach is literally one of the worst songs they've ever done. :)

One of the best, I think. It's because OOR is the only song that has Kevin Moore touch. (Sorry, I miss Kevin's melodies so much.) Kinda darker, haunting and yet simple sound. I just love it.

KevShmev

I love Out of Reach. That is my probably my 3rd favorite from the last album behind Fall into the Light and At Wit's End. 

TAC

Quote from: darkshade on October 16, 2021, 06:36:54 PM
I'm not saying Out Of Reach is amazing, but it has its moments.


Yeah, the moment it ends. :P

Quote from: TheBarstoolWarrior on October 16, 2021, 06:35:49 PM
I could see Alien being representative. I just hope the rest is a little less predictable than Alien :)

I don't find The Alien predictable at all. It took me a number of listens to figure it out.
Quote from: wkiml on June 08, 2012, 09:06:35 AMwould have thought the same thing but seeing the OP was TAC i immediately thought Maiden or DT related
Quote from: Stadler on February 08, 2025, 12:49:43 PMI wouldn't argue this.

UndercoverMyung

Quote from: TAC on October 16, 2021, 06:34:04 PM
Well, there you go! :lol

Yeah I probably should've said that in my original comment about the article  :lol
My bad

TheBarstoolWarrior

One thing I will say about Alien...I like the lyrics and the subject matter a lot. The lyrics have gotten better and better since BCSL.
Disclaimer: All opinions stated are my own unless otherwise specified. I do not personally know any present or former members of DT. From time to time where the context is or should be obvious, I may decline to explicitly label my words as opinion. I cannot predict the future.

darkshade

Quote from: TAC on October 16, 2021, 06:39:51 PM
Quote from: darkshade on October 16, 2021, 06:36:54 PM
I'm not saying Out Of Reach is amazing, but it has its moments.


Yeah, the moment it ends. :P

Quote from: TheBarstoolWarrior on October 16, 2021, 06:35:49 PM
I could see Alien being representative. I just hope the rest is a little less predictable than Alien :)

I don't find The Alien predictable at all. It took me a number of listens to figure it out.

I like the JP lead. I would have preferred it as a softer ballad.
Serox mentioned Kevin Moore influence, and I agree. I hear OOR progressing and it's like, "don't Systematic Chaos my Kevin Moore" when I hear Out of Reach.

lovethedrake

Love out of reach.  Sounds like a 90's dream theater ballad which is a very good thing.

erwinrafael

The last word I would use to describe The Alien is predictable.