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DT15: A View From The Top Of The World (Timeline for DT15)

Started by Max Kuehnau, February 18, 2020, 09:45:46 AM

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LKap13

Based on the snippets and the alien this is pretty much exactly what I've been envisioning. Extremely promising. Just need to get to Oct 22!

hefdaddy42

I got an email last night that my AVFTTOTW artbook set is being delayed to December.

So I've got THAT going for me...
Quote from: BlobVanDam on December 11, 2014, 08:19:46 PMHef is right on all things. Except for when I disagree with him. In which case he's probably still right.

faizoff

Quote from: hefdaddy42 on October 08, 2021, 07:00:32 AM
I got an email last night that my AVFTTOTW artbook set is being delayed to December.

So I've got THAT going for me...

Ooh no!
Devour Feculence!

bosk1

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Quote from: dream75 on October 07, 2021, 02:17:49 PM
it is very strange that for no one the best is the suite...

???

I think they mean that no one has said the epic is their favourite song yet. (don't remember if anyone's said that yet either)

Oh.  Well, only two people have said what their favorite is.  So, I guess it is literally true that "no one" has said that song is their favorite.  But out of such a small sample size, that doesn't really say anything.  :lol

I recall after Octavarium came out, after the first couple of listens, I wouldn't have called the title track my favorite, it was probably TROAE or Panic Attack. Epics need more time to sink in.

Exactly.  Certainly not everybody reacts that way, but a significant portion of us do.  DT music is dense and complex, and there is a LOT of it.  It takes time to digest and appreciate a 20+ minute song.  No matter how "straightforward" it might be by DT standards, I won't have internalized it enough to rank it after just a few listens. 

RodrigoAltaf

Just received the album THROUGH OFFICIAL CHANNELS (don't ban me!!!), and I'm going through my first listen. Two songs before the end I can already say this is Mangini's finest hour with DT, guys!!!!

Max Kuehnau

Quote from: RodrigoAltaf on October 08, 2021, 07:30:08 AM
Just received the album THROUGH OFFICIAL CHANNELS (don't ban me!!!), and I'm going through my first listen. Two songs before the end I can already say this is Mangini's finest hour with DT, guys!!!!
which btw, I'm happy to read your review of (of course innit)
All my natural instincts are begging me to stop
But somehow I carry on, heading for the top
A physical absurdity, a tremendous mental game
Helping me understand exactly who I am

LKap13

Quote from: RodrigoAltaf on October 08, 2021, 07:30:08 AM
Just received the album THROUGH OFFICIAL CHANNELS (don't ban me!!!), and I'm going through my first listen. Two songs before the end I can already say this is Mangini's finest hour with DT, guys!!!!

Liking it more than DoT? Let us know your initial impressions

RodrigoAltaf

Quote from: Max Kuehnau on October 08, 2021, 07:35:00 AM
Quote from: RodrigoAltaf on October 08, 2021, 07:30:08 AM
Just received the album THROUGH OFFICIAL CHANNELS (don't ban me!!!), and I'm going through my first listen. Two songs before the end I can already say this is Mangini's finest hour with DT, guys!!!!
which btw, I'm happy to read your review of (of course innit)

My initial reaction is...well you see, I have a pair of Asics that I keep in my mom's house. It's the shoes I wore in my best marathon ever - I finished it in 03h56min. Whenever I go back there I put these shoes on and go for a run. They're comfortable, reliable, they deliver in a GREAT WAY, and bring back a lot of memories. And to me, the signs of wear and tear do not matter one bit. I compare this album to that pair of shoes.

devieira73

Good to know, Rodrigo! If I feel this way about the album (and I'm pretty confident about that), I will be totally happy!

bosk1

:panicattack:  Rodrigo said the album smells bad and is falling apart at the seams!!!

RodrigoAltaf

Quote from: bosk1 on October 08, 2021, 07:52:34 AM
:panicattack:  Rodrigo said the album smells bad and is falling apart at the seams!!!

LOOOOOOL NO!!!!

I like it. Just finished my first listen, and this album is a great addition to their discography. The legacy lives on! I felt a bit underwhelmed by a few moments on it, but overall, these songs are going to sound amazing live. I liked everything except for Invisible Monsters and the fact that A View from the Top of the World lacks the sense of completion and grandiose that Octavarium or Illumination Theory give me at the end.

Kotowboy

This album may end being the "...oh yeah that album exists. I forgot about that one. " of their discog like When Dream and Day or Falling Into Infinity.

Not awesome. Not terrible. Just another DT album.

nobloodyname

Quote from: Kotowboy on October 08, 2021, 08:05:27 AM
This album may end being the "...oh yeah that album exists. I forgot about that one. " of their discog like When Dream and Day or Falling Into Infinity.

Not awesome. Not terrible. Just another DT album.

Not that I really care what people are saying about the album in advance, but that's actually what I took from Rodrigo's post about his running shoes (which I think was probably unintentional). I understand the attraction of an old pair of shoes but they're still just that. I'd like the album to grab my attention, chew me up and spit me out. Something that needs taming. Unrealistic to expect that after all these years, I know.

Only two weeks to go.

lovethedrake

Quote from: Kotowboy on October 08, 2021, 08:05:27 AM
This album may end being the "...oh yeah that album exists. I forgot about that one. " of their discog like When Dream and Day or Falling Into Infinity.

Not awesome. Not terrible. Just another DT album.

Haha the most troll comment ever.  I wouldn't take the bait people.

TAC

Based on Rodrigo's review of Senjutsu, we can safely say that if he loves the DT, it's going to blow.
Quote from: wkiml on June 08, 2012, 09:06:35 AMwould have thought the same thing but seeing the OP was TAC i immediately thought Maiden or DT related
Quote from: Stadler on February 08, 2025, 12:49:43 PMI wouldn't argue this.

devieira73

Quote from: RodrigoAltaf on October 08, 2021, 07:58:56 AM
Quote from: bosk1 on October 08, 2021, 07:52:34 AM
:panicattack:  Rodrigo said the album smells bad and is falling apart at the seams!!!

LOOOOOOL NO!!!!

I like it. Just finished my first listen, and this album is a great addition to their discography. The legacy lives on! I felt a bit underwhelmed by a few moments on it, but overall, these songs are going to sound amazing live. I liked everything except for Invisible Monsters and the fact that A View from the Top of the World lacks the sense of completion and grandiose that Octavarium or Illumination Theory give me at the end.
I'm pretty cofindent about it too. I listened to this song many times and... so it's OK. I think it will end at the bottom DT songs to me unfortunately. But I guess it's also a good sign that you think it's the worst from the album.

rab7

Quote from: nobloodyname on October 08, 2021, 08:15:39 AM
Quote from: Kotowboy on October 08, 2021, 08:05:27 AM
This album may end being the "...oh yeah that album exists. I forgot about that one. " of their discog like When Dream and Day or Falling Into Infinity.

Not awesome. Not terrible. Just another DT album.

Not that I really care what people are saying about the album in advance, but that's actually what I took from Rodrigo's post about his running shoes (which I think was probably unintentional). I understand the attraction of an old pair of shoes but they're still just that. I'd like the album to grab my attention, chew me up and spit me out. Something that needs taming. Unrealistic to expect that after all these years, I know.

Only two weeks to go.


If he had said "the album chewed me up and spat me out", someone would say "see I understand what you meant, but from that I got that the music will just leave me feeling wet and cold"

RodrigoAltaf

Quote from: lovethedrake on October 08, 2021, 08:15:59 AM
Quote from: Kotowboy on October 08, 2021, 08:05:27 AM
This album may end being the "...oh yeah that album exists. I forgot about that one. " of their discog like When Dream and Day or Falling Into Infinity.

Not awesome. Not terrible. Just another DT album.

Haha the most troll comment ever.  I wouldn't take the bait people.

I wouldn't be as drastic as Kotowboy. I like my old pair of running shoes, and I look forward to running with them every now and then! I'm on my second listen, and I must say the mix is way better than DOT, and the album is just as consistent. Speaking of running, this one and DOT are great albums to run to.

RodrigoAltaf

Quote from: TAC on October 08, 2021, 08:18:02 AM
Based on Rodrigo's review of Senjutsu, we can safely say that if he loves the DT, it's going to blow.

Are you saying you want a piece of me??? You got iiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiitttt!!!!

lovethedrake

I also wouldn't include FII in the category of "oh yea that album exists".    There is so much controversy and varying opinions around FII.   The album sounds very distinct as well.   

Many people love it, many people hate it but most agree that Trial of Tears is a classic. 

I think the "oh yeah that album exists" albums would be the self titled, SC and BC&SL IMO. 

But that phrase is also up for interpretation.

I now realize I took some of the bait as well  :rollin but at least not as it pertains to the new album.


devieira73

Quote from: RodrigoAltaf on October 08, 2021, 08:25:01 AM
Quote from: lovethedrake on October 08, 2021, 08:15:59 AM
Quote from: Kotowboy on October 08, 2021, 08:05:27 AM
This album may end being the "...oh yeah that album exists. I forgot about that one. " of their discog like When Dream and Day or Falling Into Infinity.

Not awesome. Not terrible. Just another DT album.

Haha the most troll comment ever.  I wouldn't take the bait people.

I wouldn't be as drastic as Kotowboy. I like my old pair of running shoes, and I look forward to running with them every now and then! I'm on my second listen, and I must say the mix is way better than DOT, and the album is just as consistent. Speaking of running, this one and DOT are great albums to run to.

By the way, on behalf of your knees, I think the cushioning of your beloved running shoes has already gone to space! ;D

RodrigoAltaf

Quote from: devieira73 on October 08, 2021, 08:40:41 AM
Quote from: RodrigoAltaf on October 08, 2021, 08:25:01 AM
Quote from: lovethedrake on October 08, 2021, 08:15:59 AM
Quote from: Kotowboy on October 08, 2021, 08:05:27 AM
This album may end being the "...oh yeah that album exists. I forgot about that one. " of their discog like When Dream and Day or Falling Into Infinity.

Not awesome. Not terrible. Just another DT album.

Haha the most troll comment ever.  I wouldn't take the bait people.

I wouldn't be as drastic as Kotowboy. I like my old pair of running shoes, and I look forward to running with them every now and then! I'm on my second listen, and I must say the mix is way better than DOT, and the album is just as consistent. Speaking of running, this one and DOT are great albums to run to.

By the way, on behalf of your knees, I think the cushioning of your beloved running shoes has already gone to space! ;D

Maybe...but they bring back so many cool memories!!!!

LKap13

I PREDICT this album is going to be excellent. More melodic and satisfying than recent releases

faizoff

Quote from: RodrigoAltaf on October 08, 2021, 07:30:08 AM
Just received the album THROUGH OFFICIAL CHANNELS (don't ban me!!!), and I'm going through my first listen. Two songs before the end I can already say this is Mangini's finest hour with DT, guys!!!!

Looking forward to your review.
Devour Feculence!

RodrigoAltaf

All the songs here are VERY melodic, even the heay beginning of Awaken the MAster. And although there are cool solos throughout, this album feels a lot more like a team effort, relying on the strength of the songs as opposed to jaw-dropping solos.

MinistroRaven

Quote from: RodrigoAltaf on October 08, 2021, 07:30:08 AM
Just received the album THROUGH OFFICIAL CHANNELS (don't ban me!!!), and I'm going through my first listen. Two songs before the end I can already say this is Mangini's finest hour with DT, guys!!!!

Agree on the Mangini part.

I also think the album is sonically superior to anything they have done in the MM era.

Instant favs:
Answering the Call
Sleeping Giant
AWFTTOTW

MinistroRaven


BeatriceNB

Quote from: Kotowboy on October 08, 2021, 08:05:27 AM
This album may end being the "...oh yeah that album exists. I forgot about that one. " of their discog like When Dream and Day or Falling Into Infinity.

Not awesome. Not terrible. Just another DT album.

I liked the snippets I heard, and the singles have fun moments. But this is my fear too; I don't love many DT albums to begin with, and D/T I always forget it exists, despite me being a huge Mangini era fan.

devieira73

The brazilian reviewer from Roadie Crew magazine, Daniel Dutra, described Transcending Time like something very 80's AOR (and called it wonderful masterpiece). I thought it very interesting... from the top of my head I can only remember DT making something like this with Innocence Faded.

LKap13

Quote from: RodrigoAltaf on October 08, 2021, 10:01:32 AM
All the songs here are VERY melodic, even the heay beginning of Awaken the MAster. And although there are cool solos throughout, this album feels a lot more like a team effort, relying on the strength of the songs as opposed to jaw-dropping solos.

Okay confirmed!

RodrigoAltaf

Quote from: devieira73 on October 08, 2021, 10:14:49 AM
The brazilian reviewer from Roadie Crew magazine, Daniel Dutra, described Transcending Time like something very 80's AOR (and called it wonderful masterpiece). I thought it very interesting... from the top of my head I can only remember DT making something like this with Innocence Faded.

Looking Glass too.

Ben_Jamin

Quote from: devieira73 on October 08, 2021, 10:14:49 AM
The brazilian reviewer from Roadie Crew magazine, Daniel Dutra, described Transcending Time like something very 80's AOR (and called it wonderful masterpiece). I thought it very interesting... from the top of my head I can only remember DT making something like this with Innocence Faded.

Innocence Faded is what Transcending Time reminded me of when I heard the snippets before they were taken down.

For me, I am getting a feeling based off The Alien, Invisible Monster, and the snippets similar to how I feel with Systematic Chaos. It's a feeling I haven't felt since then, and I have felt with all the albums before. Although, each album since SC do have moments individually, but have not reached it as a whole.

devieira73

Quote from: RodrigoAltaf on October 08, 2021, 11:12:07 AM
Quote from: devieira73 on October 08, 2021, 10:14:49 AM
The brazilian reviewer from Roadie Crew magazine, Daniel Dutra, described Transcending Time like something very 80's AOR (and called it wonderful masterpiece). I thought it very interesting... from the top of my head I can only remember DT making something like this with Innocence Faded.

Looking Glass too.
True, how I could forget it? I really love The Looking Glass - my second fave from DT12!

hunnus2000

Well if Transcending Time reminds some of IF then I hope they do a better job because IF leaves me wanting more. Kind of like PBT leaves some listeners like allllllmmmmmmmoooooosssssstttttt - an epic but not quite.

CirclesSquared