DT15: A View From The Top Of The World (Timeline for DT15)

[Kotowboy]

This.

But I don't over listen to them. I've listened to Alien in full about 5 times in total.

[Elite]

This.

But I don't over listen to them. I've listened to Alien in full about 5 times in total.

That's about 4,5 times more than I have

[Kotowboy]

[BeatriceNB]

I'm always torn on that line of reasoning because I tend to gravitate towards bands that always do something very different.

I think it was Alex Lifeson who, in speaking about the style change from MP to Signals, said something along the lines of "as soon as we felt like we had succeeded at a certain sound, we immediately knew it was time to do something else." (I'm paraphrasing from memory, but it was something like that.)

That's why I LOVE Rush. Because the S/T sounds like a completely different band than 2112, which sounds like a totally different band than Moving Pictures, which sounded like a totally different band than Power Windows, which sounded like a totally different band than Clockwork Angels.

Haken is another one. Visions felt like a pure DT homage album, so for the next album they knocked it out of the park doing something completely different...which was subsequently followed up by something that bordered on alienating fans of the previous two albums.

I still love Pain of Salvation because their "core sound" keeps shifting around to the point that I don't know that they have a "core sound" anymore beyond the label of "interesting"

And I've only just started to get into King Gizzard and the Lizard Wizard who have done a thrash album, and a psychedelic pop album (along with a handful of other genres)...not having a "core sound" makes it more interesting somehow.

I think you'll enjoy Kayo Dot, or really just all of Toby Driver's discography. Very diverse, all over the place sound, yet very distinctive and unique. Yusef Lateef Jazz-inspired Prog (Blue Lambency Downward) Mathcore-like Metal madness (Hubardo), abstract Doom (Dowsing Anemone...), Atmospheric ballads (Madonnawhore, They Are The Shield), Satoshi Kon-inspired synth stuff (Plastic House On Base Of Sky), Modern Classical (Tartar Lamb I & II, Ichneumonidae), even an improvisational Dark Ambient project (the band Bloodmist).

You were intentionally listening to St Anger? 

I think it's pretty good. The riffs are really good, and the snare is iconic. I enjoy it way more than AJFA and their debut together, to be honest.

Any music that is described as "drone" or "noise"...I'm out

Your loss 

[TheBarstoolWarrior]

I have no clue if there is another single coming. I was just recalling that someone a few pages back said he talked to an InsideOut rep who said he had no idea when/if.

I am dying for some more music here so I hope there is indeed something else coming.

[LKap13]

Alright here's one for Glasser and anyone else who's heard the album.

D/T production vs. new album production
D/T JP vs. new album JP
D/T Labrie vs new album Labrie
D/T JR vs new album JR
D/T Myung vs new album Myung
D/T MM vs new album MM
D/T overall vs new album overall

Excited to hear this! Having only heard the alien, I'm imagining the new album to be a sonically and melodically better version of D/T

[Trav]

Any music that is described as "drone" or "noise"...I'm out

Your loss 

I'm okay with that. 

[IDontNotDoThings]

apparently we may not be getting another single

? The new single will be released this week

[Glasser]

Name one DT album that you love every song equally.

Awake
Images

See, I told you you couldn't name one.

[TheBarstoolWarrior]

Name one DT album that you love every song equally.

Awake
Images

See, I told you you couldn't name one.

Glasser - Awaken the Master or Bridges in the Sky?

[Glasser]

Name one DT album that you love every song equally.

Awake
Images

See, I told you you couldn't name one.

Glasser - Awaken the Master or Bridges in the Sky?

Bridges

[Glasser]

Same, same

To be serious though, I wish I loved it, but I don't.  It's not a big deal to me.  I'll still buy the album on the day and spin it and see.  Maybe a second single might change my mind.

Name one DT album that you love every song equally. DT screwed this up BIG in my opinion. They should have released a good trailer of the album and not a single. This is not a Taylor Swift album. Progressive technical music should not be promoted the same as pop or any other genre. I judge an album in it's entirety. The Alien is a piece of the puzzle and puzzles make sense and are better  completed. This is how I personally feel on this.

Invisible Monster or Behind the Veil?

Surrender To Reason. Seriously... Invisible Monster.

Since some people believe Invisible Monster will be a single, could you possibly give us a short description of the song?

The more I listen it could've been on "DT".

[TheBarstoolWarrior]

what's the level of cheese on the album?

[LKap13]

D/T production vs. new album production
D/T JP vs. new album JP
D/T Labrie vs new album Labrie
D/T JR vs new album JR
D/T Myung vs new album Myung
D/T MM vs new album MM
D/T overall vs new album overall

Anyone else want the answer to these? 

[Glasser]

what's the level of cheese on the album?

-1 out of 10.

[bosk1]

D/T production vs. new album production
D/T JP vs. new album JP
D/T Labrie vs new album Labrie
D/T JR vs new album JR
D/T Myung vs new album Myung
D/T MM vs new album MM
D/T overall vs new album overall

Anyone else want the answer to these? 

no

[the_silent_man]

The album is 4 weeks away now guys, just chill and be patient.
Plenty of new music coming out in the next few weeks to enjoy. If you're constantly on here looking for new info, the wait will seem so much longer.

I'm excited as well, but I have not listened to the alien (and won't a second single either, if there is one) as this time i want the full experience on release day. I personally don't want the whole thing ruined before release.

[nobloodyname]

I'm excited as well, but I have not listened to the alien (and won't a second single either, if there is one) as this time i want the full experience on release day. I personally don't want the whole thing ruined before release.

I've not listened to it, either. And I actually feel no desire, or need, to. That's not say I'm not looking forward to the album because I am; I guess I personally am just not as obsessive about DT as I was back in the mid-2000s when I went to multiple shows on each tour, went across to the US and Italy to watch them, bought every single related release etc.

And, as you say, it's only four weeks away. Maybe it's because I'm relatively old now but four weeks will pass in the blink of an eye. Which is both and

[Stadler]

D/T production vs. new album production
D/T JP vs. new album JP
D/T Labrie vs new album Labrie
D/T JR vs new album JR
D/T Myung vs new album Myung
D/T MM vs new album MM
D/T overall vs new album overall

Anyone else want the answer to these? 

I don't understand the question, frankly. 

[TheBarstoolWarrior]

I'm excited as well, but I have not listened to the alien (and won't a second single either, if there is one) as this time i want the full experience on release day. I personally don't want the whole thing ruined before release.

I've not listened to it, either. And I actually feel no desire, or need, to. That's not say I'm not looking forward to the album because I am; I guess I personally am just not as obsessive about DT as I was back in the mid-2000s when I went to multiple shows on each tour, went across to the US and Italy to watch them, bought every single related release etc.

And, as you say, it's only four weeks away. Maybe it's because I'm relatively old now but four weeks will pass in the blink of an eye. Which is both and

Just pretend you are dealing with your mid-2000s self here

...except I've only gone on multiple shows once, because the shows were nearby, and only buy the studio albums.

[Kocak]

New single Invisible Monster out in NZ.

[hefdaddy42]

D/T production vs. new album production
D/T JP vs. new album JP
D/T Labrie vs new album Labrie
D/T JR vs new album JR
D/T Myung vs new album Myung
D/T MM vs new album MM
D/T overall vs new album overall

Anyone else want the answer to these? 

I don't understand the question, frankly.

He's asking for comparisons between the last album (Distance Over Time) and the current album, in those various categories.

[Lonk]

New single Invisible Monster out in NZ.

Interesting

[Dream Team]

Any music that is described as "drone" or "noise"...I'm out

Your loss 

I'm okay with that. 

Smart choice!

[ZirconBlue]

New single Invisible Monster out in NZ.

Is "Invisible Monster" the name of MP's newest kit?

[LKap13]

30 second teaser on YouTube

[Lonk]

30 second teaser on YouTube

So looks like this will be the (one of?) the music video they recorded?

[CDrice]

Interesting. Seems a bit out of nowhere, but I'll take it! Sounds like it will be less relentless than The Alien.

[nobloodyname]

From Twitter: "Pre-save/follow at the link below to see a teaser of our new single 'Invisible Monster', out September 22!"

[TheBarstoolWarrior]

I dont want to make too many judgements based on 30 seconds of music, but was a little taken back by how blatantly close that guitar riff sounds to Scenes Overture

[hunnus2000]

The entire song is on YT.

Edited to say - scratch that. The video is unavailable.

[jayvee3]

Available on Apple Music in Australia. Great track. Not as relentless as The Alien, good build up, cool chorus and trimmed off any fat to keep it concise. Nothing too over the top for me, but a nice track. Will just listen to it the twice though and now wait for the album 👍

[Chino]

I dont want to make too many judgements based on 30 seconds of music, but was a little taken back by how blatantly close that guitar riff sounds to Scenes Overture

My thought 2 seconds in as well.

[Aristocrats as Puppy]

The single sounds like a mixture of so many past DT tunes that I am quite baffled to be honest figuring out which songs they remind me. The start of vocal melody is really cool, but later it just becomes an Outcry+ Moment of Betrayal+ some other Astonishin hodgepodge, particularly the middle section of the vocal lines appeared quite lacking. I am really hating this 'old dream theater' sounding parts, more than inspiration they sound hollow, I mean, come on, within a 7 minutish song I can recognize so many past dt songs that, ah whatever. This song has some exciting sections of brilliant music dotted with so many dt references that I am not sure how to feel about the Invisible Monster (A snake devouring its own tail, much?)

[rab7]

The single sounds like a mixture of so many past DT tunes that I am quite baffled to be honest figuring out which songs they remind me. The start of vocal melody is really cool, but later it just becomes an Outcry+ Moment of Betrayal+ some other Astonishin hodgepodge, particularly the middle section of the vocal lines appeared quite lacking. I am really hating this 'old dream theater' sounding parts, more than inspiration they sound hollow, I mean, come on, within a 7 minutish song I can recognize so many past dt songs that, ah whatever. This song has some exciting sections of brilliant music dotted with so many dt references that I am not sure how to feel about the Invisible Monster (A snake devouring its own tail, much?)

It sounds like Untethered Angel and Paralyzed made a baby. It shares UA's structure, but with a shorter instrumental section, and feels like Paralyzed