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Distance over Time - New Single "Untethered Angel"

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Kocak

Quote from: noxon on December 06, 2018, 11:51:38 AM
Finding stock image is ridiculously easy because there exists search engines that literally specialises in that sort of thing, like TinEye. Put in an image in there, and you'll find other places it's been used. So people know DT uses stock images, and they put it in the search engine and finds other results  containing the pieces :P It's been happening since Octavarium :P

Why not work with someone else?

King Postwhore

Quote from: ariich on December 06, 2018, 11:42:49 AM
Quote from: kingshmegland on December 06, 2018, 11:13:57 AM
Now everybody has to search out if it was something similar.
Sure but they've kind of brought it on themselves. It doesn't stop me thinking the artwork (both for the album and the single) looks great, but I do find it funny how quickly and easily people can find the stock images Syme uses. And it's still all irrelevant to the question of whether the music is good.

It's a shame if it ruins the joy of a new release for you, but for me it makes no difference and if anything I find it fairly entertaining.

I honestly could care less.  Get me the music.

Quote from: jingle.boy on December 06, 2018, 11:17:02 AM
Quote from: kingshmegland on December 06, 2018, 11:13:57 AM
Got to say, you are all ruining the joy

First day on the Internet, sir?
Quote from: jingle.boy on December 06, 2018, 11:17:02 AM
Quote from: kingshmegland on December 06, 2018, 11:13:57 AM
Got to say, you are all ruining the joy

First day on the Internet, sir?

Humanity is killing me. :lol

Quote from: Anguyen92 on December 06, 2018, 11:30:17 AM
Quote from: kingshmegland on December 06, 2018, 11:13:57 AM
Got to say, you are all ruining the joy of a new release.  I saw the picture and though is was so cool.  Now everybody has to search out if it was something similar.

I could give a rat's ass about that.  It looks great.

Stuff like singles and album release day is like Christmas.  People should not ruin Christmas for Little Timmy.

Absolutely.

"I don't like country music, but I don't mean to denigrate those who do. And for the people who like country music, denigrate means 'put down'." - Bon Newhart.

bosk1

Quote from: Kocak on December 06, 2018, 11:57:28 AM
Quote from: noxon on December 06, 2018, 11:51:38 AM
Finding stock image is ridiculously easy because there exists search engines that literally specialises in that sort of thing, like TinEye. Put in an image in there, and you'll find other places it's been used. So people know DT uses stock images, and they put it in the search engine and finds other results  containing the pieces :P It's been happening since Octavarium :P

Why not work with someone else?

Because they don't want to, and they like Syme's work. 

King Postwhore

Quote from: Kocak on December 06, 2018, 11:57:28 AM
Quote from: noxon on December 06, 2018, 11:51:38 AM
Finding stock image is ridiculously easy because there exists search engines that literally specialises in that sort of thing, like TinEye. Put in an image in there, and you'll find other places it's been used. So people know DT uses stock images, and they put it in the search engine and finds other results  containing the pieces :P It's been happening since Octavarium :P

Why not work with someone else?

this is a guess on my part.  John loves Rush, he's modeled the live show like Rush would with the visuals so they need a more structured setlist and he likes Syme's work.
"I don't like country music, but I don't mean to denigrate those who do. And for the people who like country music, denigrate means 'put down'." - Bon Newhart.

bosk1

I don't really get the complaining.  I mean, I get that some people don't like that art form (using combination and manipulation of stock images to create a final work).  But I don't understand the voicing of the same criticism over and over as if this is a new thing.  It's like someone acting surprised because this album features guitars and vocals, and complaining that DT once again used the tired trope of having guitars and vocals on an album.  It's what they do.  And they like working with Syme, which is why they have for almost every album since Octavarium.  It's what they do. 

Adami

Quote from: bosk1 on December 06, 2018, 12:12:01 PM
It's like someone acting surprised because this album features guitars and vocals,

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Kocak

Quote from: bosk1 on December 06, 2018, 12:12:01 PM
I don't really get the complaining.  I mean, I get that some people don't like that art form (using combination and manipulation of stock images to create a final work).  But I don't understand the voicing of the same criticism over and over as if this is a new thing.  It's like someone acting surprised because this album features guitars and vocals, and complaining that DT once again used the tired trope of having guitars and vocals on an album.  It's what they do.  And they like working with Syme, which is why they have for almost every album since Octavarium.  It's what they do.

I guess, for me, it's like, if Dream Theater were to release an album of mashups, I'd be disappointed. Same thing with the artwork. There's so much talent out there for DT to tap into.

Another_Won

For me it's kind of fun to look for the stock images and see how it all came together.  I save all the stock images in the same folder with the rest of the artwork.

ToT-147

I'm with kingshmegland here.. They are a band, and make music, let's not get confused..

Can we discuss about the artwork?.. Sure.. And have different opinions about it?.. Absolutely.. But it seems very silly to complain this much about the cover of a SINGLE..

ariich

Quote from: bosk1 on December 06, 2018, 12:12:01 PM
DT once again used the tired trope of having guitars and vocals on an album.
Leaked info.

Banned.

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Architeuthis

Quote from: ariich on December 06, 2018, 12:30:37 PM
Quote from: bosk1 on December 06, 2018, 12:12:01 PM
DT once again used the tired trope of having guitars and vocals on an album.
Leaked info.

Banned.
Whoa! You have the authority to ban Bosk??  That's bad-ass!  :metal.      Jk

Pettor

Don't understand complaints about the concept of using stock images. Is the artwork good? That is really what matters and I don't see why it has to be original set pieces to be good.

Progmetty

Quote from: mikeyd23 on December 06, 2018, 11:14:14 AM
:facepalm: Of course my first comment was how much I liked the artwork.   :lol

Same here.
For the people saying they don't understand the complaints; I honestly can't comprehend how this is okay or justifiable, isn't the art work an integral part of the overall statement and vibe of the album? and further on the album's legacy? Shouldn't it be solely identifiable solely to that album?
That guy is an artist as much as a DJ is an artist, I can't believe he's getting paid to do this.. How many people here CAN'T do this?
I suspect DT themselves are not aware at all of this, cause I really doubt they know and just don't care like that. A shit ton of their fans could have done an original job, hell they could have commissioned fuckin blob and he would came up with something original and more attached to the music of the album.
That's all I'm gonna say about that, I haven't spoken out about it before but my fuse just burnt out with this one.

bosk1

Quote from: Progmetty on December 06, 2018, 12:42:28 PM
Quote from: mikeyd23 on December 06, 2018, 11:14:14 AM
:facepalm: Of course my first comment was how much I liked the artwork.   :lol

Same here.
For the people saying they don't understand the complaints; I honestly can't comprehend how this is okay or justifiable, isn't the art work an integral part of the overall statement and vibe of the album? and further on the album's legacy? Shouldn't it be solely identifiable solely to that album?
That guy is an artist as much as a DJ is an artist, I can't believe he's getting paid to do this.. How many people here CAN'T do this?
I suspect DT themselves are not aware at all of this, cause I really doubt they know and just don't care like that. A shit ton of their fans could have done an original job, hell they could have commissioned fuckin blob and he would came up with something original and more attached to the music of the album.
That's all I'm gonna say about that, I haven't spoken out about it before but my fuse just burnt out with this one.

What a strange way of looking at things.

And I have no idea why you would think that band don't know that Syme uses stock images.  Again, they work with him because they like his work.  It's that simple.  If you don't like it, you're entitled to that, but I don't know what more can be said.

ariich

Quote from: Architeuthis on December 06, 2018, 12:36:01 PM
Quote from: ariich on December 06, 2018, 12:30:37 PM
Quote from: bosk1 on December 06, 2018, 12:12:01 PM
DT once again used the tired trope of having guitars and vocals on an album.
Leaked info.

Banned.
Whoa! You have the authority to ban Bosk??  That's bad-ass!  :metal.      Jk
I don't know about authority, but I have the ability to ban Bosk and have, on a couple of occasions, banned Bosk.

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bosk1

Quote from: ariich on December 06, 2018, 12:53:01 PM
Quote from: Architeuthis on December 06, 2018, 12:36:01 PM
Quote from: ariich on December 06, 2018, 12:30:37 PM
Quote from: bosk1 on December 06, 2018, 12:12:01 PM
DT once again used the tired trope of having guitars and vocals on an album.
Leaked info.

Banned.
Whoa! You have the authority to ban Bosk??  That's bad-ass!  :metal.      Jk
I don't know about authority, but I have the ability to ban Bosk and have, on a couple of occasions, banned Bosk.

And he doesn't even need all six infinity stones.

cramx3

I guess this is another case where I do like the album art, but am a little let down by the fact it's just another reworked image from the internet and not an original piece of art all around.  I do like all the art I've seen, but just knowing how easy it was and how common it is used is kind of a let down.  I would love for the music which is so artistic and original to have the images associated with it also be artistic and original.  There's just so much missed potential especially because I really dig the ideas behind these artworks.

noxon

The DJ comparison is apt. Is a DJ making a beat for a rapper not an artist? Artists like Daft Punk or Prodigy use a lot of samples of famous tracks in their stuff and create cool songs:

https://youtu.be/I85DUucY_ek

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ZYLp5uX9Yw

It's a tool in a toolbox, and a very valid one at that. Using stock image is no worse than using samples in songs - heck. "HOLD IT NOW; WAIT A MINUTE; COME ON!"

Kocak

It's after midnight where I am, am I allowed to comment on the single?

noxon


cramx3

Quote from: noxon on December 06, 2018, 12:58:50 PM
The DJ comparison is apt. Is a DJ making a beat for a rapper not an artist? Artists like Daft Punk or Prodigy use a lot of samples of famous tracks in their stuff and create cool songs:

https://youtu.be/I85DUucY_ek

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ZYLp5uX9Yw

It's a tool in a toolbox, and a very valid one at that. Using stock image is no worse than using samples in songs - heck. "HOLD IT NOW; WAIT A MINUTE; COME ON!"

Very true and good point, but I also when hearing samples in other music kind of find it a bit unoriginal even if used in an original way.

gzarruk

Quote from: ToT-147 on December 06, 2018, 12:19:04 PM
I'm with kingshmegland here.. They are a band, and make music, let's not get confused..

Can we discuss about the artwork?.. Sure.. And have different opinions about it?.. Absolutely.. But it seems very silly to complain this much about the cover of a SINGLE..

Completely agree with this. It's the artwork for a single, really no one will even remember it after a couple weeks. We're here for the music.

Architeuthis

Quote from: bosk1 on December 06, 2018, 12:53:34 PM
Quote from: ariich on December 06, 2018, 12:53:01 PM
Quote from: Architeuthis on December 06, 2018, 12:36:01 PM
Quote from: ariich on December 06, 2018, 12:30:37 PM
Quote from: bosk1 on December 06, 2018, 12:12:01 PM
DT once again used the tired trope of having guitars and vocals on an album.
Leaked info.

Banned.
Whoa! You have the authority to ban Bosk??  That's bad-ass!  :metal.      Jk
I don't know about authority, but I have the ability to ban Bosk and have, on a couple of occasions, banned Bosk.

And he doesn't even need all six infinity stones.
:lol

Progmetty

Quote from: bosk1 on December 06, 2018, 12:52:57 PM
And I have no idea why you would think that band don't know that Syme uses stock images.

Cause I'd like to believe they care about being original.
Is originality not a factor here at all? Is it no longer part of the package of what makes something great? I'm truly asking cause I don't understand y'all's argument for this, to me the argument is "Ah who gives a fuck where it came from, it looks good and that's all that matters", am I understanding this right?
I haven't said a word about the unicyclist or the robot with the skull, somehow this pushed me over the top.

Quote from: bosk1 on December 06, 2018, 12:52:57 PM
Again, they work with him because they like his work.  It's that simple.  If you don't like it, you're entitled to that, but I don't know what more can be said.

First thing I said about this was I like it, until I found out it's another reworked stock image. But if I understand your point correctly, that is it doesn't matter, then you're 100% right about there being nothing else to be said.
Maybe I just need to get with the times, that's how things work now.

SeRoX

Well, in Turkey I listened the single more than once...

Waiting for the world.

King Postwhore

Quote from: bosk1 on December 06, 2018, 12:53:34 PM
Quote from: ariich on December 06, 2018, 12:53:01 PM
Quote from: Architeuthis on December 06, 2018, 12:36:01 PM
Quote from: ariich on December 06, 2018, 12:30:37 PM
Quote from: bosk1 on December 06, 2018, 12:12:01 PM
DT once again used the tired trope of having guitars and vocals on an album.
Leaked info.

Banned.
Whoa! You have the authority to ban Bosk??  That's bad-ass!  :metal.      Jk
I don't know about authority, but I have the ability to ban Bosk and have, on a couple of occasions, banned Bosk.

And he doesn't even need all six infinity stones.

You know I will photoshop this. :lol
"I don't like country music, but I don't mean to denigrate those who do. And for the people who like country music, denigrate means 'put down'." - Bon Newhart.

bosk1


ariich


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bosk1


Dublagent66

Another song title referencing "Angel".  How original.  Why don't they just call it On The Backs Of Restless and Untethered Angels?  :lol :|

Podaar


ariich

Nice. :lol

If bosky is Thanos, presumably that makes me one of the Black Order/Children of Thanos?

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MinistroRaven


King Postwhore

"I don't like country music, but I don't mean to denigrate those who do. And for the people who like country music, denigrate means 'put down'." - Bon Newhart.

Podaar