Portnoy invites the DT guys to play the 12 step with him

[BlobVanDam]

Wikipedia says Anthony played on 3 tracks, and Eddie played the rest.

[Bertielee]

I didn't know MP was to play for VH. Oh, the VH discussion is off?

B.Lee

[Destiny Of Chaos]

When an esteemed Mod like Hef partakes in the Van Halen posts, it's safe to say that it's not crucial to stay on topic for a thread of this importance.

[Mosh]

I didn't realize that Michael Anthony wasn't on it, either.  Now that I think about it, it makes sense, as I do remember that he left when Sammy left.

I think it was a situation where he was still in the band but just didn't play on the album because of band drama or whatever. He's in the videos and afaik played on the tour. 

He did leave for good after the train wreck of a reunion tour with Sammy though.

[Sir GuitarCozmo]

I saw VH on the VHIII tour.  I was used to the standard "wall of Marshalls".

There were three speaker cabinets on the stage.

Three.

WTF?

[TAC]

When an esteemed Mod like Hef partakes in the Van Halen posts, it's safe to say that it's not crucial to stay on topic for a thread of this importance.

[Sir GuitarCozmo]

"thread of this importance" implies that there is importance to the thread.  There isn't really.  It's the usual suspects carrying on the same "MP sucks" bitchfest.  This thread has long outlived its usefulness, IMO, which is why we're discussing Van Halen.

[bosk1]

I saw VH on the VHIII tour.  I was used to the standard "wall of Marshalls".

There were three speaker cabinets on the stage.

Three.

WTF?

Yeah, but in fairness, the proverbial "wall of Marshalls" that some '80s bands used was fakery in most if not all cases.  Meniketti has some stories about that.  He saw it from some of the bigger bands they opened for early on, such as AC/DC.  When Y&T got big enough to headline, they did the same thing.  Except instead of buying empty cabinets, Dave made them himself in his garage.  So, yeah, a LOT of bands had the huge walls of speakers back then, but most were empty cabinets that were just there for looks.

[Madman Shepherd]

Even Dream Theater used fake amps.  I think JP had 3-4 cabinets and I think only one was real. 

Sorry for being off topic and bringing up Dream Theater in a Van Halen thread

[mikeyd23]

Even Dream Theater used fake amps.  I think JP had 3-4 cabinets and I think only one was real. 

Sorry for being off topic and bringing up Dream Theater in a Van Halen thread

Yeah, for the last couple DT tours, the only cabinets that have actually been plugged in and used sit off-stage, mic'ed up under a blanket, not visible to the audience. The cabinets on stage are there for looks (and probably Boogie promo purposes) only.

[Sir GuitarCozmo]

Yeah, but in fairness, the proverbial "wall of Marshalls" that some '80s bands used was fakery in most if not all cases.  Meniketti has some stories about that.  He saw it from some of the bigger bands they opened for early on, such as AC/DC.  When Y&T got big enough to headline, they did the same thing.  Except instead of buying empty cabinets, Dave made them himself in his garage.  So, yeah, a LOT of bands had the huge walls of speakers back then, but most were empty cabinets that were just there for looks.

Oh, I know the cabinets are all fakes and not actually pushing any sound, but as noted, it IS for looks.  It's a total rock and roll move.  Showmanship.  It's one of the things I love about a good rock band.  But even knowing they're empty cabs, coming in to see the almighty Van Halen and finding 3 cabinets on stage was a little underwhelming.

[Darkstarshades]

Well, JR is making music out of a NOMAC, so I don't see why JP can't make sounds out of an empty carcass.

[Sir GuitarCozmo]

Empty carcass = the MP dead horse DTF continues to beat?

[Darkstarshades]

Empty carcass = the MP dead llama DTF continues to beat?

The NOMAC is real... right?

[Sir GuitarCozmo]

[Orbert]

Well, JR is making music out of a NOMAC, so I don't see why JP can't make sounds out of an empty carcass.

But can he call life from a cold metal frame?

[Sir GuitarCozmo]

Have you seen his new keyboard stand?

[Orbert]

Sadly, I have not.

[Sir GuitarCozmo]

I don't know if he has one, but it seemed like the most useful interpretation of "cold metal frame", with regards to JR. 

[hefdaddy42]

When an esteemed Mod like Hef partakes in the Van Halen posts, it's safe to say that it's not crucial to stay on topic for a thread of this importance.

The album's official title is Van Halen III, not Van Halen 3.  The band showed remarkably consistent inconsistency in using "3" on the spine and on the disc.

[Prog Snob]

Have you seen his new keyboard stand?

Who? Mike Portnoy or Van Halen? 

[Sir GuitarCozmo]

Have you seen his new keyboard stand?

Who? Mike Portnoy or Van Halen? 

Mic Michaeli, from Europe.  Please try to keep up.

[Orbert]

The album's official title is Van Halen III, not Van Halen 3.  The band showed remarkably consistent inconsistency in using "3" on the spine and on the disc.

Usually it's not the band, though.  The marketing suits decide what goes on the spine, and the artwork on the disc itself could be reasoned away as "just the artwork".

My CD of Chicago's second album (official title: Chicago) says "Chicago II" on the spine.  My CD of their fifth album (Chicago V) says "Chicago" on the spine.  And the best one is the first album (The Chicago Transit Authority) which says "Chicago Transit Authority I" on the spine, both dropping "The" and adding "I".

[Kotowboy]

Speaking of Van Halen -


- you know who's a massive douchebag ?


Mike Portnoy.

[Prog Snob]

Have you seen his new keyboard stand?

Who? Mike Portnoy or Van Halen? 

Mic Michaeli, from Europe.  Please try to keep up.

[Kotowboy]

Wait...Americans pronounce it Poomah ?




We Brits pronounce it like Pew Mah. . .

[Orbert]

Yeah but you guys say a lot of things wrong, so...

[SystematicThought]

Didn't JP scale back to just the one working amp on this tour? I always liked the wall he had with the album artwork on it or something from the booklet.

Eddie on the last few tours went back to the wall, even the disastrous 2004 tour. Was the III concert good, Coz?

[mikeyd23]

Didn't JP scale back to just the one working amp on this tour? I always liked the wall he had with the album artwork on it or something from the booklet.

He still had two dummie Boogie 4x12 cabinets on stage with two of his new signature heads on top. I believe the heads were plugged in as backups, but the actual heads he was using were mounted in his rack.

[Prog Snob]

Yeah but you guys say a lot of things wrong, so...

If you really want to make Kotow cry, just start dumping tea bags in front of him. 

[Prog Snob]

Didn't JP scale back to just the one working amp on this tour? I always liked the wall he had with the album artwork on it or something from the booklet.

He still had two dummie Boogie 4x12 cabinets on stage with two of his new signature heads on top. I believe the heads were plugged in as backups, but the actual heads he was using were mounted in his rack.

JP uses Dimmu Borgir's cabinets?

[mikeyd23]

JP uses Dimmu Borgir's cabinets?

Let's see if I can do this right....

Yup

[Sir GuitarCozmo]

Eddie on the last few tours went back to the wall, even the disastrous 2004 tour. Was the III concert good, Coz?

Best I recall, it was.  5/7/98.  Gund Arena in Cleveland, OH.  Also:

Speaking of Van Halen -


- you know who's a massive douchebag ?


Mike Portnoy.

Is this really necessary?  We ALL get it.  You don't like Mike Portnoy.

[TAC]

This thread needs one of these:

[Anguyen92]

^^ Yeah, unless DT changes their mind on it, or MP makes a significant (note the word, significant, not a facebook post responding to the fans) comment regarding them not attending, I don't see how much more we can discuss in this thread.