Portnoy invites the DT guys to play the 12 step with him

[BlobVanDam]

If MP makes a sound in the forest and nobody is around to hear it, does DTF still get all triggered?

[Bertielee]

If MP makes a sound in the forest and nobody is around to hear it, does DTF still get all triggered?

Bad faith, Blob, sorry. Facebook is a social media, it's not a "sound in the forest". He perfectly knows what kind of reaction such comment will trigger, even from his fanboys (not hinting you're one).

B.Lee

[CoT67]

If MP makes a sound in the forest and nobody is around to hear it, does DTF still get all triggered?

He won't be able to make a sound in the forest by himself, he needs the support and understanding of his loyal fans. He'll post a video on Facebook

[Kotowboy]

" I just made a sound in a forest and THEY weren't here to hear it.

You can't trust anyone these days : ) "

[ChuckSteak]

This topic turned into "Search and Destroy: The Life Crimes of Mike Portnoy".

[KevShmev]

If MP makes a sound in the forest and nobody is around to hear it, does DTF still get all triggered?

Bad faith, Blob, sorry. Facebook is a social media, it's not a "sound in the forest". He perfectly knows what kind of reaction such comment will trigger, even from his fanboys (not hinting you're one).

Yep. I think it was said that this whole thing shouldn't be an "us vs them" situation, but Portnoy has turned it into one.  I think he wants his hardcore fans to turn against DT as punishment for not letting him back in the band.

[Sir GuitarCozmo]

If MP makes a sound in the forest and nobody is around to hear it, does DTF still get all triggered?

Judging from the responses to this post, yes, clearly they do.

[Madman Shepherd]

If MP makes a sound in the forest and nobody is around to hear it, does DTF still get all triggered?

If MP burns down a forest and everyone is around to see it because he publicized it on Facebook, will his defenders claim "it was just a couple of trees"?

[BlobVanDam]

If MP makes a sound in the forest and nobody is around to hear it, does DTF still get all triggered?

If MP burns down a forest and everyone is around to see it because he publicized it on Facebook, will his defenders claim "it was just a couple of trees"?

Wow, talk about blowing it out of proportion.

[ReaperKK]

If MP makes a sound in the forest and nobody is around to hear it, does DTF still get all triggered?

careful with these micro-aggressions blob

[Kotowboy]

If Portnoy's post DT output is anything to go by - he's made A LOT of sounds that nobody will hear.

[Progmetty]

I think people who're downplaying MP's attitude are as silly as the people blowing it out of proportion. My take is that MP doesn't matter within the context of DT anymore and discussing his post-DT statements or actions in the DT section of the forums has no purpose but creating drama.

[Sir GuitarCozmo]

Completely real.

https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=1300245863326386&substory_index=0&id=116713035013014

Mike gives this kind of responses very very often.

For anyone who chose not to read this link, the next comment went like this:

Commenter: Dream Theatre may have been his baby and ya gotta respect the talent but Winery Dogs, Transatlantic, hell, even his drumming on Big Elf was, I dunno... more fun? You can hear the fun in his playing the last few years. Totally more into his post-DT.

Mike Portnoy: Shouldn't playing music and being in a band be FUN?? Yes, indeed I am very HAPPY with everything I am doing now...

THAT ASSHOLE!!  WHO THE HELL DOES HE THINK HE IS BEING HAPPY WITH EVERYTHING HE'S DOING NOW!!  I'M OUTRAGED!!

[bosk1]

Mike Portnoy...Chaossystem? 

[Darkstarshades]

Completely real.

https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=1300245863326386&substory_index=0&id=116713035013014

Mike gives this kind of responses very very often.

For anyone who chose not to read this link, the next comment went like this:

Commenter: Dream Theatre may have been his baby and ya gotta respect the talent but Winery Dogs, Transatlantic, hell, even his drumming on Big Elf was, I dunno... more fun? You can hear the fun in his playing the last few years. Totally more into his post-DT.

Mike Portnoy: Shouldn't playing music and being in a band be FUN?? Yes, indeed I am very HAPPY with everything I am doing now...

THAT ASSHOLE!!  WHO THE HELL DOES HE THINK HE IS BEING HAPPY WITH EVERYTHING HE'S DOING NOW!!  I'M OUTRAGED!!

So tell that to THEM!

[Sir GuitarCozmo]

Mike Portnoy...Chaossystem? 

Suddenly, everything makes sense.

So tell that to THEM!

[Train of Naught]

Pretty close, but not quite. Chaossystem would be more like: "So TELL that TO them" and "Shouldn't PLAYING music and being in a BAND be fun?"

[Darkstarshades]

Out of joke, if you scroll around his posts searching for people telling him to go back to DT, he usually answers with something like this...

"Ugh... STOP! THEY are the ones..."
or
"I tried but they wouldn't...

Whathever.

[Kotowboy]

I tried ...

Hey guys i'm quitting...

Ok ! We'll get a new drummer and film a new drummer documentary and go through all the legal shit we have to go through to get Mangini in the band etc etc etc.....

Hey guys can I come back ?

After all that ? Fuck no....

OMFG GUYSSSSSI TRIIIIEEDDDDDDDDDDDDD af 

[Ben_Jamin]

"Ugh... STOP! THEY are the ones..."

If he says this then I feel for him, being bombarded by these fans constantly asking for you to return to the band They(the fans) liked you in, must be exhausting.

I can understand what he means by THEY. But it's just the way he worded it makes it sound negative.

I'm not defending Mike and his actions, just stating that I'd be upset and frustrated if fans kept asking. Yes I wish he'd stop with his resentment but he is feeling deep regret with his decision and props to him for keeping on.

Also, I'm more interested in hearing how the 12 step suite in full would sound with whomever he chooses to play it with, than a DT reunion one-off.

[Madman Shepherd]

If MP makes a sound in the forest and nobody is around to hear it, does DTF still get all triggered?

If MP burns down a forest and everyone is around to see it because he publicized it on Facebook, will his defenders claim "it was just a couple of trees"?

Wow, talk about blowing it out of proportion.

I have a RIGHT to post my opinion about "forests!"

But seriously, maybe I did blow it out of proportion. Instead of burning forests I should have said burning bridges.

[BlobVanDam]

If MP makes a sound in the forest and nobody is around to hear it, does DTF still get all triggered?

If MP burns down a forest and everyone is around to see it because he publicized it on Facebook, will his defenders claim "it was just a couple of trees"?

Wow, talk about blowing it out of proportion.

I have a RIGHT to post my opinion about "forests!"

But seriously, maybe I did blow it out of proportion. Instead of burning forests I should have said burning bridges.

Bridges would be acceptable.

[Kotowboy]

Here's a question.

Suppose Mangini quit after The Astonishing tour and Portnoy got the position back ?

Do you think he'd go right back to super controlling "my baby" Mike Portnoy or would he be content with just being the drummer in DT again ?

I don't think it would happen immediately but maybe after a year or two.

[Madman Shepherd]

At this point, I think they would get a different drummer rather than Portnoy.  If they did actually get Portnoy back, I think there would be a lot of conditions on his participation. 

[Kotowboy]

Yes. In reality if Mangini left I think DT would be done.

[Ravenfoul]

Yes. In reality if Mangini left I think DT would be done.

I don't think so, personally. If anything I think it's only certain that DT would disband if Petrucci stepped down - although obviously LaBrie or Rudess leaving would be huge.

[BlobVanDam]

If MM left right now, I think they'd keep going for sure.

But I don't see the point of any of this hypothetical scenario discussion.

[Madman Shepherd]

If MM left right now, I think they'd keep going for sure.

But I don't see the point of any of this hypothetical scenario discussion.

News flash, Blob.  This is a message board.  95% of what we talk about here is pointless. 

[Kotowboy]

If MM left right now, I think they'd keep going for sure.

But I don't see the point of any of this hypothetical scenario discussion.

There's not much else to discuss between albums.

[Kotowboy]

If MM left right now, I think they'd keep going for sure.

But I don't see the point of any of this hypothetical scenario discussion.

News flash, Blob.  This is a message board.  95% of what we talk about here is pointless.

Also this.



I mean just look at me - i'm 95% pointless !!

[BlobVanDam]

If MM left right now, I think they'd keep going for sure.

But I don't see the point of any of this hypothetical scenario discussion.

News flash, Blob.  This is a message board.  95% of what we talk about here is pointless. 

Well this comes as news to me.






I always figured it was more like 99%.

[Madman Shepherd]

If MM left right now, I think they'd keep going for sure.

But I don't see the point of any of this hypothetical scenario discussion.

News flash, Blob.  This is a message board.  95% of what we talk about here is pointless. 

Well this comes as news to me.






I always figured it was more like 99%.

Ha.  Well the very important Van Halen discussion in this very thread proves that number is just too high!

BTW, I think Gary Cherone would make a great replacement for Mangini if he ever leaves. 

[MirrorMask]

Yes. In reality if Mangini left I think DT would be done.

I don't think so, personally. If anything I think it's only certain that DT would disband if Petrucci stepped down - although obviously LaBrie or Rudess leaving would be huge.

They didn't quit when Portnoy left, why should they quit once the drummer for three albums would leave?

I can only imagine what would be Portnoy's reaction if Mangini would step down of his own free will and the band would pick another drummer rather than welcoming him back.

Also - do you think the members who were reportedly more happy about his departure would welcome him back? or would they put their foot down?

[Sir GuitarCozmo]

If MM were ever to leave the band, I wouldn't come near this place for a minimum of 7 years.

[Orbert]

It will only be safe again after the statute of limitations has expired.