*Official* The Astonishing discussion thread

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bosk1

The credits roll on the screens at the end is also a nice effect.

King Postwhore

Sure was. They got the "play" feeling down perfect.
"I don't like country music, but I don't mean to denigrate those who do. And for the people who like country music, denigrate means 'put down'." - Bon Newhart.

darkshade

DT should play the opening 3 tracks, walk off stage, then come back and James would say "Thanks guys, it's been a great evening, drive home safe" and the band proceeds to play the rest of the album as their encore. They can eat their cake and not encore the title track.

fadetoblackdude7

Quote from: kingshmegland on May 10, 2016, 04:34:15 PM
Sure was. They got the "play" feeling down perfect.

That was cool. I was savoring every moment cuz there's probably never gonna be a show like this from them. 10/10

MirrorMask

Talking about the end of the show, anyone else went completely nuts (the hype of the show and album finishing surely helped) when the Majesty symbol appeared on screen?  ;D

Dream Team

Pretty sure my fave vocal passage on TA is in MLF beginning with "Don't leave me now . . . ". There are a ton of others.

AngelBack

Quote from: Dream Team on May 12, 2016, 06:04:00 PM
Pretty sure my fave vocal passage on TA is in MLF beginning with "Don't leave me now . . . ". There are a ton of others.

Mine too, James tone and emotion on those few lines rivals his best to me.

BelichickFan

Quote from: Dream Team on May 12, 2016, 06:04:00 PM
Pretty sure my fave vocal passage on TA is in MLF beginning with "Don't leave me now . . . ". There are a ton of others.
Mine is :

Gabriel, my son
I see the tide is turning
Can the Chosen One
Keep her fire burning?
I would trade my life
Just for one last moment

Use your gift, I beg
Make life begin again
Make life begin again!


Yum.

Shooters1221

Quote from: BelichickFan on May 13, 2016, 08:57:33 AM
Quote from: Dream Team on May 12, 2016, 06:04:00 PM
Pretty sure my fave vocal passage on TA is in MLF beginning with "Don't leave me now . . . ". There are a ton of others.
Mine is :

Gabriel, my son
I see the tide is turning
Can the Chosen One
Keep her fire burning?
I would trade my life
Just for one last moment

Use your gift, I beg
Make life begin again
Make life begin again!


Yum.

I have many vocal favs on TA also, but the one that always sticks when I am pissed is..

Heed my words
Justice will be served


:xbones

erwinrafael

Fav vocal lines would be the exchange between Arhys and Faythe in Ravenskill. Amazing.

RoeDent

Apart from those mentioned, my favourite vocal line is in Lord Nafaryus. JLB's theatrical delivery on "Such a foolish young man/Doesn't seem to understand", then the evil streak comes in on "So let me be perfectly clear!"

fischermasamune

It is a slightly girly passage, but I really like "There's a reeeeeason now I see" and the variations.

RoeDent

It's funny that the Astonishing pre-release thread took c. 2½ months (Nov 6-Jan 21) to reach 200 pages, and this post-release thread has taken 3½ months (Jan 29-present) and counting just to reach 100 pages. :lol

SystematicThought

Quote from: Dream Team on May 12, 2016, 06:04:00 PM
Pretty sure my fave vocal passage on TA is in MLF beginning with "Don't leave me now . . . ". There are a ton of others.
The little flair he puts on "now" is awesome!

Mladen

Yep, that's a very subtle touch.

I have way too many favorite James moments on the albums. I would probably toss a coin to pick between "Open eyes, help me see which choice is right!" and the entire "How dare you step inside my home?" section.

ReaPsTA

Quote from: Dream Team on May 12, 2016, 06:04:00 PM
Pretty sure my fave vocal passage on TA is in MLF beginning with "Don't leave me now . . . ". There are a ton of others.

This one's great.

I have to give the cop out answer and say there's too many to pick a best one. Although my favorite right now is near the end of Path That Divides, the "You dare defy your prince" part. Does a really good job with the character and his delivery's really intense and menacing.

V_R11

#3446
Has anyone else noticed the tiny fact that every other person is mentioned by name at some point,but Daryus and Xander are always just called sons?

Prog Snob

I did notice that. I'm guessing wherever their name was required, "son" made the lyrics flow better.

SebastianPratesi

Quote from: V_R11 on May 16, 2016, 04:23:25 AM
Has anyone else noticed the tiny fact that every other person in mentioned by name at some point,but Daryus and Xander are always just called sons?
Xander is mentioned, in "The Path That Divides":

- By the Narrator, although not by his full name ('Confused and deathly afraid, X watched his hero be brave')
- By Daryus ('Well, you just threw your life away, along with Xander's dreams')

But yeah, Daryus is never mentioned, I think.

V_R11

Quote from: SebastianPratesi on May 16, 2016, 05:17:34 AM
Quote from: V_R11 on May 16, 2016, 04:23:25 AM
Has anyone else noticed the tiny fact that every other person is mentioned by name at some point,but Daryus and Xander are always just called sons?
Xander is mentioned, in "The Path That Divides":

- By the Narrator, although not by his full name ('Confused and deathly afraid, X watched his hero be brave')
- By Daryus ('Well, you just threw your life away, along with Xander's dreams')

But yeah, Daryus is never mentioned, I think.

Damn it,I did a quick scan through the lyrics before posting this, and forgot about those parts in TPTD  :lol :facepalm:
But they never mention Daryus by name. Just a little thing that caught my eye

Destiny Of Chaos

Xander's name is uttered in "A Tempting Offer" as well.

cramx3

Quote from: Destiny Of Chaos on May 16, 2016, 09:05:26 AM
Xander's name is uttered in "A Tempting Offer" as well.

"and best of all, Xandar would be free" I think is the line

Destiny Of Chaos

Quote from: cramx3 on May 16, 2016, 09:50:00 AM
Quote from: Destiny Of Chaos on May 16, 2016, 09:05:26 AM
Xander's name is uttered in "A Tempting Offer" as well.

"and best of all, Xandar would be free" I think is the line

He'll never want again....it's such an easy choice...

Love that song and James' delivery in it.

DarkLord_Lalinc

A Tempting Offer is one of my favorites off the album. The chord progression is so amazing.

bosk1

Quote from: DarkLord_Lalinc on May 16, 2016, 10:12:50 AM
A Tempting Offer is one of my favorites off the album. The chord progression is so amazing.
Agreed.  I hate to keep repeating myself, but the 4 song run from Ravenskill through The X Aspect (excluding the NOMAC interlude as a "song") is my favorite part of the album.  Those 4 are among the strongest on the album, and to have them back to back is just incredible.

MirrorMask

Today I was listening to the album going to and back from work. I take the subway which at a certain point, in the suburbs, comes up from the ground and travels at street level. The exact moment during Losing Faythe when the "Gabriel, my son" part comes in, the subway came up in the surface and I was greeted by the cool late evening sun. It was a glorious moment  :D

Dirty30

Having a twenty-one year old daughter, I absolutely love how James sings: "To think I didn't notice the way you looked at her! Now come down from your throne and let me bring you back to earth." The menace in his voice captures a doting father perfectly.    :yarr

Prog Snob

Quote from: cramx3 on May 16, 2016, 09:50:00 AM
Quote from: Destiny Of Chaos on May 16, 2016, 09:05:26 AM
Xander's name is uttered in "A Tempting Offer" as well.

"and best of all, Xandar would be free" I think is the line

I remember it now.

TAC

Quote from: bosk1 on May 16, 2016, 10:25:01 AM
Quote from: DarkLord_Lalinc on May 16, 2016, 10:12:50 AM
A Tempting Offer is one of my favorites off the album. The chord progression is so amazing.
Agreed.  I hate to keep repeating myself, but the 4 song run from Ravenskill through The X Aspect (excluding the NOMAC interlude as a "song") is my favorite part of the album.  Those 4 are among the strongest on the album, and to have them back to back is just incredible.

OK, so I LOVE The Astonishing. But I also feel that the criticisms of too many slow parts is totally fair. And this passage is an example. I feel like Chosen, which by itself is a fine song, breaks up that whole passage and makes it feel a little choppy.
Quote from: wkiml on June 08, 2012, 09:06:35 AMwould have thought the same thing but seeing the OP was TAC i immediately thought Maiden or DT related
Quote from: Stadler on February 08, 2025, 12:49:43 PMI wouldn't argue this.

cramx3

Quote from: Dirty30 on May 16, 2016, 12:58:26 PM
Having a twenty-one year old daughter, I absolutely love how James sings: "To think I didn't notice the way you looked at her! Now come down from your throne and let me bring you back to earth." The menace in his voice captures a doting father perfectly.    :yarr

Do you have a pic?  :biggrin:

emtee

Quote from: bosk1 on May 16, 2016, 10:25:01 AM
Quote from: DarkLord_Lalinc on May 16, 2016, 10:12:50 AM
A Tempting Offer is one of my favorites off the album. The chord progression is so amazing.
Agreed.  I hate to keep repeating myself, but the 4 song run from Ravenskill through The X Aspect (excluding the NOMAC interlude as a "song") is my favorite part of the album.  Those 4 are among the strongest on the album, and to have them back to back is just incredible.

I would expand that to include A Life Left Behind thru A New Beginning. Easily my favorite part of the album.

bosk1

Quote from: TAC on May 16, 2016, 01:20:53 PM
Quote from: bosk1 on May 16, 2016, 10:25:01 AM
Quote from: DarkLord_Lalinc on May 16, 2016, 10:12:50 AM
A Tempting Offer is one of my favorites off the album. The chord progression is so amazing.
Agreed.  I hate to keep repeating myself, but the 4 song run from Ravenskill through The X Aspect (excluding the NOMAC interlude as a "song") is my favorite part of the album.  Those 4 are among the strongest on the album, and to have them back to back is just incredible.

OK, so I LOVE The Astonishing. But I also feel that the criticisms of too many slow parts is totally fair. And this passage is an example. I feel like Chosen, which by itself is a fine song, breaks up that whole passage and makes it feel a little choppy.
I disagree.  Chosen is one of my favorite ballads they have ever written.  And story-wise, I feel like it is a great interlude between Ravenskill, where we get a sense of foreboding because Faythe's and Gabriel's plan is coming together but we know Daryus' machinations are going to cause problems, and A Tempting Offer, where we see that come to fruition.  It is fitting that we get that interlude right at that spot, and Gabriel's role as the chosen one is fitting to be expanded upon at that time because his role actually is expanded by virtue of him accepting Faythe's invitation to persuade her father. 

In contrast, Act of Faythe interrupts the flow of When Your Time Has Come and Three Days.  But the problem is, it is necessary to introduce Faythe and develop her character, and it doesn't really fit anywhere else, so it kinda gets shoehorned in.  Chosen isn't that.  It actually fits perfectly where it is.

bosk1

Quote from: emtee on May 16, 2016, 01:21:58 PM
Quote from: bosk1 on May 16, 2016, 10:25:01 AM
Quote from: DarkLord_Lalinc on May 16, 2016, 10:12:50 AM
A Tempting Offer is one of my favorites off the album. The chord progression is so amazing.
Agreed.  I hate to keep repeating myself, but the 4 song run from Ravenskill through The X Aspect (excluding the NOMAC interlude as a "song") is my favorite part of the album.  Those 4 are among the strongest on the album, and to have them back to back is just incredible.

I would expand that to include A Life Left Behind thru A New Beginning. Easily my favorite part of the album.
A Life Left Behind is good, but doesn't quite rise to the level of the four I cited.  And while I don't dislike A New Beginning, I am not as crazy about it as some.  The latter instrumental half is really good, but the first half doesn't grab me nearly as much.  Both are still really good songs, but if I'm picking out the strongest run of songs on the album, I'm not going to include those.

MirrorMask

My favorite run would be the beginning, basically everything from the start until When your Time has Come, extend that even to Three Days.

Mladen

Can I pick my favorite run of songs? From Act of Faythe up to and including Ravenskill. That includes The Hovering sojourn.  :metal