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Dream Theater: The Astonishing (now with moment of betrayal!)

Started by bosk1, November 06, 2015, 12:02:26 PM

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phospheneSOI

Ha, I heard the track when I was out. Just got in and thought "wonder what the DT forum thinks..." and come here to see 20 more odd pages than when I checked this morning. I guess it's to be expected.

Anyway I can't be bothered to read through it all, especially with all this Metropolis Pt 3 and auto-tune shite, but I reckon pretty much everyone is digging this. Sounds like it could have been released between SFAM and SDOIT.

I've been holding out that Dream Theater have one last great album in them, a final huzzah to make me feel the spirit of the old days. This is shaping up nicely.

King Postwhore

Quote from: alexofsweden on December 03, 2015, 02:26:00 PM
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Quote from: EraVulgaris on December 03, 2015, 01:52:50 PM
Quote from: ResultsMayVary on December 03, 2015, 01:42:25 PM
Quote from: jakepriest on December 03, 2015, 01:35:39 PM
I still don't hear the autotune even after focusing on it and replaying the part over and over.
Same here for me. I've re-listened to the timestamp provided 10+ times and I got nothing.  :huh:

I just went back to it and there is just something off about it. It's like "...people have no time for music anymore..." and it sounds like they tried to lower the pitch when LaBrie sings "time", so it sounds like "time[uaauw]", just between 1:22 and 1:23

Guys, It's has been made on purpose! Because people have no time for music anymoooaaahhhh

BTW, great single! :)

Actually, after listening a couple of times...the whole line "people just don't..." to the most audible "time" are actually wrongfully melodyned. Very very weird!! Why would they actually release a single with such a mistake! OR as you are saying...they might wanna make a statement within those lines

Don't point out flaws to women.  You'll never get laid.
"I don't like country music, but I don't mean to denigrate those who do. And for the people who like country music, denigrate means 'put down'." - Bon Newhart.

Lucien

Calling it now: the beginning of this video is Descent of the NOMACS and Dystopian Overture is a part of it

EraVulgaris

Quote from: kingshmegland on December 03, 2015, 02:38:52 PM
Quote from: alexofsweden on December 03, 2015, 02:26:00 PM
Quote from: Whrobmp on December 03, 2015, 02:20:51 PM
Quote from: EraVulgaris on December 03, 2015, 01:52:50 PM
Quote from: ResultsMayVary on December 03, 2015, 01:42:25 PM
Quote from: jakepriest on December 03, 2015, 01:35:39 PM
I still don't hear the autotune even after focusing on it and replaying the part over and over.
Same here for me. I've re-listened to the timestamp provided 10+ times and I got nothing.  :huh:

I just went back to it and there is just something off about it. It's like "...people have no time for music anymore..." and it sounds like they tried to lower the pitch when LaBrie sings "time", so it sounds like "time[uaauw]", just between 1:22 and 1:23

Guys, It's has been made on purpose! Because people have no time for music anymoooaaahhhh

BTW, great single! :)

Actually, after listening a couple of times...the whole line "people just don't..." to the most audible "time" are actually wrongfully melodyned. Very very weird!! Why would they actually release a single with such a mistake! OR as you are saying...they might wanna make a statement within those lines

Don't point out flaws to women.  You'll never get laid.

"So is that your real make-up or do you want to make a statement with that?"

Thematt202

Quote from: Lucien on December 03, 2015, 02:41:29 PM
Calling it now: the beginning of this video is Descent of the NOMACS and Dystopian Overture is a part of it

I think you're spot on!

genome

Can't hear anything auto-tuney. I think it's just his delivery.

noxon

Quote from: Thematt202 on December 03, 2015, 02:46:58 PM
Quote from: Lucien on December 03, 2015, 02:41:29 PM
Calling it now: the beginning of this video is Descent of the NOMACS and Dystopian Overture is a part of it

I think you're spot on!

If that's on the album i'll eat my socks.

Nomaniac

Alright guys, we don't have to get into a fight about the whole "autotune" thing. We can be civilized :lol

To me it doesn't even phase me at all and I'd rather just drop it ;)

Just one little mistake in the Melodyne it sounds like to my ears. Maybe others see it differently

But to people getting upset about the supposed "glitch" and to people getting upset at those people . . . let's just enjoy the song ;D

Progmetty

If this turns out to be really formulated like The Wall it would be such an exciting experience to hear the DT take on that format.

King Postwhore

Quote from: EraVulgaris on December 03, 2015, 02:43:28 PM
Quote from: kingshmegland on December 03, 2015, 02:38:52 PM
Quote from: alexofsweden on December 03, 2015, 02:26:00 PM
Quote from: Whrobmp on December 03, 2015, 02:20:51 PM
Quote from: EraVulgaris on December 03, 2015, 01:52:50 PM
Quote from: ResultsMayVary on December 03, 2015, 01:42:25 PM
Quote from: jakepriest on December 03, 2015, 01:35:39 PM
I still don't hear the autotune even after focusing on it and replaying the part over and over.
Same here for me. I've re-listened to the timestamp provided 10+ times and I got nothing.  :huh:

I just went back to it and there is just something off about it. It's like "...people have no time for music anymore..." and it sounds like they tried to lower the pitch when LaBrie sings "time", so it sounds like "time[uaauw]", just between 1:22 and 1:23

Guys, It's has been made on purpose! Because people have no time for music anymoooaaahhhh

BTW, great single! :)

Actually, after listening a couple of times...the whole line "people just don't..." to the most audible "time" are actually wrongfully melodyned. Very very weird!! Why would they actually release a single with such a mistake! OR as you are saying...they might wanna make a statement within those lines

Don't point out flaws to women.  You'll never get laid.

"So is that your real make-up or do you want to make a statement with that?"

I'm saying stop looking for the negative and enjoy that moment.
"I don't like country music, but I don't mean to denigrate those who do. And for the people who like country music, denigrate means 'put down'." - Bon Newhart.

JMSE

I'm so happy I'm blessed with ignorant ears for these auto tunning things. It'd hate it if something minor like one sec of vocal would be the main take away from a song  :lol

Loved the single and its "about to crash" vibe. It's a nice break from other first singles we got which were more on the heavy side. Now, the song is very good but that interview by JP is the thing that took my hype to "over 9000!" levels. For years they've said they would love to score a movie; so what do they do? they create their own story to score. Brilliant.

I said it over at the MP forum, I hope they release a special edition collector edition with a book like Steven Wilson has been doing.

Pragmaticcircus

Quote from: Lucien on December 03, 2015, 02:41:29 PM
Calling it now: the beginning of this video is Descent of the NOMACS and Dystopian Overture is a part of it

There's a few more videos (like a Sweetwater video) with Rudess, that would have parts of Astonishing on it too. But yes, I heard that recently and I'd be surprised if it wasn't.

CodyWanKenobi

My latest concept album "IV: Timber" IS OUT NOW!
linktree = STARCOMMANDStudios

Podaar


FsF

Bloody hell, now I can't unhear the Melodyne flub. At least we've sorted out what this album's early talking points are going to revolve around (ADTOE's IAW comparisons, DT12's cover artwork being cut off)...

Nomaniac

Quote from: FsF on December 03, 2015, 03:14:43 PM
Bloody hell, now I can't unhear the Melodyne flub. At least we've sorted out what this album's early talking points are going to revolve around (ADTOE's IAW comparisons, DT12's cover artwork being cut off)...

I know, I wish I never read the comment about it :lol . . . but yeah like I said let's just drop it and enjoy the song everyone ;)

noxon

I don't have the album, so I wouldn't know if it actually is on the album or not, but I'm pretty certain that those aren't.

The Presence of Frenemies

Anyone else get an OTBOA vibe in the section like 2:54-3:15? I've seen people referencing ATC a few times, but to me the OTBOA outro was the closest thing I felt any part of the song came to.

ResultsMayVary

Quote from: Podaar on December 03, 2015, 03:09:30 PM
Quote from: noxon on December 03, 2015, 02:50:50 PM
If that's on the album i'll eat my socks.

Quote from: noxon on December 03, 2015, 02:50:50 PM
If that's on the album i'll eat my socks.

Quote from: noxon on December 03, 2015, 02:50:50 PM
i'll eat my socks.

It's not on the album, guys.
I doubt Noxon has heard the entire album yet, but I wouldn't doubt him if he makes a claim like this.

edit: ninja'd by Noxon

Lucien

LYRICS:

Far in the distant future
Beyond the pages of our time
Cold-blooded wicked tyrants
Threatened the freedom of mankind

Corruption, lust, and greed
Define the new nobility
Changing the course of history

ARHYS:

I cross the vast North Empire
Most people struggle to survive
Living a meek existence
Where they're secluded ______

We are living day to day
Forced to bear the lion's share
People just don't have the time for music anymore
And no one seems to care

My friends have seen the Chosen One
The quest for freedom has begun
He will be the answer to our prayers

There walks a god among us
Who's seen the writing on the wall
He is the revolution
He'll be the one to save us all

My brother Gabriel
Is all the hope we need
Shining like a beacon in the night
Shepherd of Ravenskill, a reason to believe
Music is the gift he brings
The songbird stops to listen when he sings


----------------------------------------------------------

Feel free to help fill in the gaps I can't quite make out

olddtfan51@gmail.com

Hey Guys I just saw in Rolling Stone that the new album will be out January 29.  :omg: :metal :tup

Nomaniac

Quote from: Lucien on December 03, 2015, 03:45:21 PM
LYRICS:

Far in the distant future
Beyond the pages of our time
Cold-blooded wicked tyrant
(Dreamt?)  _____ in the freedom of mankind

Corruption, lust, and greed
Define the new nobility
Changing the course of history

ARHYS:

I cross the vast North Empire
Most people struggle to survive
Living a meek existence
Where they're secluded ______

We are living day to day
Forced to bear the lion's share
People just don't have the time for music anymore
And no one seems to care

My friends have seen the Chosen One
The quest for freedom has begun
He will be the answer to our prayers

There walks a god among us
Who's seen the writing on the wall
He is the revolution
He'll be the one to save us all

My brother Gabriel
Is all the hope we need
Shining like a beacon in the night
_____ of Ravenskill, a reason to believe
Music is the gift he brings
The song ___________ when he sings

Nice interpretation! Someone asked me to try to hear it out and mine came out a bit different (yours might be more spot on).

Far in the distant future
Beyond the pages of our time
Cold-blooded wicked tyrants
Threaten the freedom of mankind

Corruption, lust, and greed
Define the new nobility
Changing the course of history

Across the vast north empire
Most people struggle to survive
Living a meek existence
(Can't make out this line)

We are living day to day
Forced to bear the lion's share
People just don't have the time for music anymore
And no one seems to care

My friends have seen the chosen one
Our quest for freedom has begun
He will be the answer to our prayers

There walks a guy among us
Who's seen the writing on the wall
He is the revolution
He'll be the one to save us all

My brother Gabriel
Is all the hope we need
Shining like a beacon in the dark

(Can't make out this part) Ravenskill
A reason to believe
Music is the gift he brings
(Can't make out this line)

Perhaps this will help your blank parts and yours can correct the errors of mine :lol 

Nomaniac

Listening to it there are parts yours are definitely sound more right than mine :lol

noxon

"threaten the freedom"

"shepherd of ravenskill"

"the songbirds stop to listen "


Pax

Quote from: The Presence of Frenemies on December 03, 2015, 03:25:09 PM
Anyone else get an OTBOA vibe in the section like 2:54-3:15? I've seen people referencing ATC a few times, but to me the OTBOA outro was the closest thing I felt any part of the song came to.
First few notes sound like OTBOA intro as well

Nomaniac

Quote from: noxon on December 03, 2015, 03:58:57 PM
"threaten the freedom"

"shepherd of ravenskill"

"the songbirds stop to listen "

Good ear Noxon! Sounds about right ;)

Pax

Quote from: Lucien on December 03, 2015, 03:45:21 PM
LYRICS:

Far in the distant future
Beyond the pages of our time
Cold-blooded wicked tyrant
(Dreamt?)  _____ in the freedom of mankind

Corruption, lust, and greed
Define the new nobility
Changing the course of history

ARHYS:

I cross the vast North Empire
Most people struggle to survive
Living a meek existence
Where they're secluded ______

We are living day to day
Forced to bear the lion's share
People just don't have the time for music anymore
And no one seems to care

My friends have seen the Chosen One
The quest for freedom has begun
He will be the answer to our prayers

There walks a god among us
Who's seen the writing on the wall
He is the revolution
He'll be the one to save us all

My brother Gabriel
Is all the hope we need
Shining like a beacon in the night
_____ of Ravenskill, a reason to believe
Music is the gift he brings
The song ___________ when he sings


----------------------------------------------------------

Feel free to help fill in the gaps I can't quite make out
Who do you guys think is the writer of those lyrics? I think it might even be Myung...

Lucien


TH1RT3EN


TAC

Quote from: wkiml on June 08, 2012, 09:06:35 AMwould have thought the same thing but seeing the OP was TAC i immediately thought Maiden or DT related
Quote from: Stadler on February 08, 2025, 12:49:43 PMI wouldn't argue this.

Nomaniac

This is how it sounds to me now, Lucien do you differ in places? (No problem if so, we'll figure this out :lol)

Far in the distant future
Beyond the pages of our time
Cold-blooded wicked tyrants
Threaten the freedom of mankind

Corruption, lust, and greed
Define the new nobility
Changing the course of history
   
Across the vast north empire
Most people struggle to survive
Living a meek existence
While they're secludedly oppressed

We are living day to day
Forced to bear the lion's share
People just don't have the time for music anymore
And no one seems to care

My friends have seen the chosen one
Our quest for freedom has begun
He will be the answer to our prayers

There walks a God among us
Who's seen the writing on the wall
He is the revolution
He'll be the one to save us all

My brother Gabriel
Is all the hope we need
Shining like a beacon in the night

Shepherd of Ravenskill
Our reason to believe
Music is the gift he brings
The songbirds stop to listen when he sings

Lucien

Far in the distant future
Beyond the pages of our time
Cold-blooded wicked tyrants
Threatened the freedom of mankind

Corruption, lust, and greed
Define the new nobility
Changing the course of history

ARHYS:

I cross the vast North Empire
Most people struggle to survive
Living a meek existence
Where they're (secludedly oppressed [I really feel like this isn't it])

We are living day to day
Forced to bear the lion's share
People just don't have the time for music anymore
And no one seems to care

My friends have seen the Chosen One
Our quest for freedom has begun
He will be the answer to our prayers

There walks a god among us
Who's seen the writing on the wall
He is the revolution
He'll be the one to save us all

My brother Gabriel
Is all the hope we need
Shining like a beacon in the night

Shepherd of Ravenskill,
A reason to believe
Music is the gift he brings
The songbird stops to listen when he sings

noxon

Quote from: Nomaniac on December 03, 2015, 04:00:34 PM

Good ear Noxon! Sounds about right ;)

Well, I -have- heard it like 50 times already, so... Of course, some of it may be a mondegreen.

Nomaniac

Quote from: Lucien on December 03, 2015, 04:12:21 PM
Far in the distant future
Beyond the pages of our time
Cold-blooded wicked tyrants
Threatened the freedom of mankind

Corruption, lust, and greed
Define the new nobility
Changing the course of history

ARHYS:

I cross the vast North Empire
Most people struggle to survive
Living a meek existence
Where they're (secludedly oppressed [I really feel like this isn't it])

We are living day to day
Forced to bear the lion's share
People just don't have the time for music anymore
And no one seems to care

My friends have seen the Chosen One
Our quest for freedom has begun
He will be the answer to our prayers

There walks a god among us
Who's seen the writing on the wall
He is the revolution
He'll be the one to save us all

My brother Gabriel
Is all the hope we need
Shining like a beacon in the night

Shepherd of Ravenskill,
A reason to believe
Music is the gift he brings
The songbird stops to listen when he sings

I'll brb to listen along in 15 minutes, but it looks like we're making progress! Almost there! :D

Kotowboy

https://itun.es/gb/aOuq_

Album is on iTunes for pre order.

Says January 29th.

I will buy the single tomorrow. :)