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Dream Theater: The Astonishing (now with moment of betrayal!)

Started by bosk1, November 06, 2015, 12:02:26 PM

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Setlist Scotty

Quote from: bosk1 on November 09, 2015, 01:32:22 PM
-Encore:  You Not Me; You Not Me II (Reprise)
Will that be with the polka breakdown, the dubstep extended guitar solo, the extra verses about how it's not about you or me but about them, or will it be the black metal single edit?
Quote from: BlobVanDam on November 13, 2015, 07:37:14 PMAs a basic rule, if you hate it, you must solely blame Portnoy. If it's good, then you must downplay MP's contribution to the band as not being important anyway, or claim he's just lying. It's the DTF way.
Quote from: TAC on July 10, 2024, 08:26:41 AMPOW is awesome! :P

BelichickFan

Quote from: Train of Naught on November 09, 2015, 02:11:39 PM
Someone mentioned somewhere that it might be spoken tracks by these NOMACS, meaning they're not really seen as songs, just something to round up the concept, and as they're first and last on Act 1 it seems very plausible.
Especially with "Dystopian Overture" being the second track, I could see a short, spoken track leading into a instrumental "overture" with "The Gift of Music" being the first with sung vocals.

TAC

Quote from: wkiml on June 08, 2012, 09:06:35 AMwould have thought the same thing but seeing the OP was TAC i immediately thought Maiden or DT related
Quote from: Stadler on February 08, 2025, 12:49:43 PMI wouldn't argue this.

bosk1

Quote from: Setlist Scotty on November 09, 2015, 02:26:48 PM
Quote from: bosk1 on November 09, 2015, 01:32:22 PM
-Encore:  You Not Me; You Not Me II (Reprise)
Will that be with the polka breakdown, the dubstep extended guitar solo, the extra verses about how it's not about you or me but about them, or will it be the black metal single edit?
Yes.

TAC

Bosk, knock it off!



Is it me or are The Vanishing Forest and The Northern Highlands newly labeled?
Quote from: wkiml on June 08, 2012, 09:06:35 AMwould have thought the same thing but seeing the OP was TAC i immediately thought Maiden or DT related
Quote from: Stadler on February 08, 2025, 12:49:43 PMI wouldn't argue this.

Kotowboy


CDrice

I'm still waiting to see if the name under the Silver Head Mountains will be YOLO

Or maybe it will be the country of Yoonaughtmeeh

Pax

So, the hypothesis that we'll have 10 songs on both acts based on the number of empty slots on the site has been disproven.

I'm a bit disappointed to see that many songs in the first act, it increases the chance we'll only have lots of short songs like in DT12
Hoping for three +10 min songs, is that too much to ask, DT?? :(

CDrice

Well Scenes has 12 songs and Falling Into Infinity has 11. Both albums have a good variety in song length, some shorter ones and some longer than 10 minutes. So I don't think you need to worry about that.

Kotowboy

Quote from: Pax on November 09, 2015, 03:20:33 PM
So, the hypothesis that we'll have 10 songs on both acts based on the number of empty slots on the site has been disproven.

I'm a bit disappointed to see that many songs in the first act, it increases the chance we'll only have lots of short songs like in DT12
Hoping for three +10 min songs, is that too much to ask, DT?? :(

You never know it might be two songs split up into 11 segments.


For arguments sake - 80 minute CD by 11 songs is an average of 7.5 minutes per song.

fadetoblackdude7

#325
Some BA song titles....A Savior In The Square is particular is an awesome title.

Kotowboy

It's better than the working title : A Sausage In The Street.

Nearmyth

I really hope DT goes for a more unpredictable and creative approach than the standard "concept album." It would be very easy to just do the same formula as SFAM and call it a day, i.e. like most concept albums. Just throw something at as we won't expect in terms of music, function, and form

Lucien

Quote from: bosk1 on November 09, 2015, 01:32:22 PM
Quote from: Lucien on November 09, 2015, 11:57:13 AM
Now I speculate the European The Astonishing shows will just be the album. Since 2 discs of 80 minutes = 2 hours 40 minutes. Even if the discs are only 60 -70 minutes each there'd probably be an intermission of 10-20 minutes between act 1 and 2.

Well, I wasn't supposed to reveal this, but since you are SO close, it doesn't really hurt at this point.  According to information I have directly from the band, the live shows will consist of:
-The Astonishing:  Act I
-intermission
-The Astonishing:  Act II
-Encore:  You Not Me; You Not Me II (Reprise)

:clap:

Now how close am I really?

Darkstarshades

The encore will obviously be A Nightmare to Remember with extended ending jam. The song will last around 24 minutes.

With the Day after Day part being sung by JM, who will reveal his powerful demonic voice from beyond.


CDrice

Quote from: Darkstarshades on November 09, 2015, 04:39:37 PM
The encore will obviously be A Nightmare to Remember with extended ending jam. The song will last around 24 minutes.

With the Day after Day part being sung by JM, who will reveal his powerful demonic voice from beyond.

It's a miracle he lived, it's a blessing no one died
By nature's inflexible grace, everyone survived

BAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAASS

King Postwhore

The kingshmegland is looking forward to The Astonishing.   
"I don't like country music, but I don't mean to denigrate those who do. And for the people who like country music, denigrate means 'put down'." - Bon Newhart.

Kotowboy


ResultsMayVary

Seeing all these posts about how people are disappointed because there's two discs (probably) of music or how they're disappointed because there's "too many" songs in the first act?

I hate to be rude, but this seems like you're looking for something to complain about. Why are we bitching about this information? Unless you know something I don't, there's no way to tell what this album is even remotely like.

Come on, people.

Calvin6s

Stop complaining about complaining.   :-*

ResultsMayVary


ToT-147

Quote from: The Letter M on November 09, 2015, 11:27:15 AM
ACT I
1. Descent of the NOMACS
2. Dystopian Overture
3. The Gift of Music
4. The Answer
5. A Better Life
6. Lord Nafaryus
7. A Savior in the Square
8. When Your Time Has Come
9. Act of Faythe
10. Three Days
11. The Hovering Sojourn

All first letters of each title form: DDTT* A LA WATT

*(plural DT)

So this means they're with more power and energy than ever!..






SO ENERGY... POWAAA!!

BlobVanDam

Are they really going to have a song called Lord Nafaryus? This is TCOT level stuff here.


liran95

Quote from: BlobVanDam on November 09, 2015, 08:15:27 PM
Are they really going to have a song called Lord Nafaryus? This is TCOT level stuff here.

Well, maybe when being looked at individually.
It makes sense in the context of the album.

BlobVanDam

Quote from: liran95 on November 09, 2015, 08:28:49 PM
Quote from: BlobVanDam on November 09, 2015, 08:15:27 PM
Are they really going to have a song called Lord Nafaryus? This is TCOT level stuff here.

Well, maybe when being looked at individually.
It makes sense in the context of the album.

And TCOT makes sense in context too. I'm just saying, there is now a DT song called Lord Nafaryus. Let it sink in. :lol

bl5150

Nothing wrong with it Blob..........you fairy ass  ;D

Cool Chris

Challenge to dtf.org members: Find words that rhyme with "Nafaryus."

GO!
Maybe the grass is greener on the other side because you're not over there fucking it up.

bl5150

Quote from: bl5150 on November 09, 2015, 08:35:10 PM
Nothing wrong with it Blob..........you fairy ass  ;D

That's where you were meant to say "I'm Nafaryus"   :P

Progmetty

What was the leaked material that prompted the new thread? I just wanna know so I wouldn't talk about it. Is it the artwork from the Italian DT fb page?

BlobVanDam

Quote from: Progmetty on November 09, 2015, 08:57:24 PM
What was the leaked material that prompted the new thread? I just wanna know so I wouldn't talk about it. Is it the artwork from the Italian DT fb page?

I think it was just a couple of bits of character artwork, found by guessing some filenames. There could be more I missed though, as I wasn't around when it got deleted. We'll probably see it soon with the next official update anyway.

Raise the Drum

It's weird, being a DT fan, I don't remember if I've ever felt the sensation of getting a lot of new songs at same time.
I was kinda getting used to the "11 - 12" songs format with ADTOE and DT12. And by the time of 6DOIT ( a double album like The Ashtonishing) I wasn't that much into DT. I started to follow them like "move by move" when TOT came out.

Progmetty

This is all very exciting, I only hope the album length doesn't mean no Texas in the NA tour this time around too.

Darkstarshades

Let's think of Abbreviations now for each track, let's name the official ones!

adastra

SPOILER ALERT:  I had a dream last night;  The first CD of The Astonishing contains 3 songs (8min, 8min , 15min) and the drums sounded amazing! :D  And guess what..... The first song was On The Backs Of Angels with a different title.

Lucien

Quote from: adastra on November 09, 2015, 09:12:47 PM
SPOILER ALERT:  I had a dream last night;  The first CD of The Astonishing contains 3 songs (8min, 8min , 15min) and the drums sounded amazing! :D  And guess what..... The first song was On The Backs Of Angels with a different title.

Not really a spoiler when we already know it isn't true  :lol