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Dream Theater: The Astonishing (now with moment of betrayal!)

Started by bosk1, November 06, 2015, 12:02:26 PM

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MirrorMask

Quote from: wolven74 on December 03, 2015, 11:03:18 AM
Quote from: LCArenas on December 03, 2015, 10:56:28 AM
Really loving the leaked track. I didn't think JLB was capable of reaching the high notes anymore until I heard the "CRUCIFYYY" chorus.
https://youtu.be/p8jKFJsXWpM

I'd hope it's fake, whatever it is.

It's a joke from when around the Octavarium era songs from James' solo album were passed off as DT's, Crucify is the opening track of Elements of Persuasion.

Architeuthis

Quote from: Nomaniac on December 03, 2015, 10:39:00 AM
Quote from: Architeuthis on December 03, 2015, 10:35:38 AM
Anyone notice the similarities to the new Meagadeth album cover (Dystopia). Looks like Nomacs hovering in a futuristic setting. I wonder if it's the same artist. Btw, the cover looks awesome on the new Megadeth and DT albums..

It has been discussed actually . . . wonder if it is related :huh:
Excuse me for not reading all 71 pages on this thread..   :\

wolven74

Quote from: MirrorMask on December 03, 2015, 11:06:25 AM
Quote from: wolven74 on December 03, 2015, 11:03:18 AM
Quote from: LCArenas on December 03, 2015, 10:56:28 AM
Really loving the leaked track. I didn't think JLB was capable of reaching the high notes anymore until I heard the "CRUCIFYYY" chorus.
https://youtu.be/p8jKFJsXWpM

I'd hope it's fake, whatever it is.

It's a joke from when around the Octavarium era songs from James' solo album were passed off as DT's, Crucify is the opening track of Elements of Persuasion.

Ok now I feel like a moron. I remember that, but with all the talk of leaks (apparently serious ones) I was like, "where's the ban button?" :lol

Nothingface

Among the largest of the planet
The giant squid - the architeuthis
How can this massive creature
Escape the hordes of searching eyes
Escape the wisdom of the wise
Escape the sonar, the bathyscaphe
Returns with countless plotted graphs?

Architeuthis - show yourself to us!

bosk1


noxon

Well, i could win that, but i'm disqualified since i already know ;)

Nomaniac

Quote from: Architeuthis on December 03, 2015, 11:10:32 AM
Quote from: Nomaniac on December 03, 2015, 10:39:00 AM
Quote from: Architeuthis on December 03, 2015, 10:35:38 AM
Anyone notice the similarities to the new Meagadeth album cover (Dystopia). Looks like Nomacs hovering in a futuristic setting. I wonder if it's the same artist. Btw, the cover looks awesome on the new Megadeth and DT albums..

It has been discussed actually . . . wonder if it is related :huh:
Excuse me for not reading all 71 pages on this thread..   :\

I was just saying it has been discussed matter-of-factly, not trying to attack you ;)

I don't blame you . . . like I've said I wouldn't wish reading this whole thread on anyone :lol

I just meant "I wonder if it is related" as in the two album covers. No worries . . . sorry for the misunderstanding :)

bosk1



Architeuthis

Quote from: Nothingface on December 03, 2015, 11:14:24 AM
Among the largest of the planet
The giant squid - the architeuthis
How can this massive creature
Escape the hordes of searching eyes
Escape the wisdom of the wise
Escape the sonar, the bathyscaphe
Returns with countless plotted graphs?

Architeuthis - show yourself to us!
That's why I don't post very often, always deep down in the shadowy depths hiding in the abyss. Gotta write a epic song about this..

MirrorMask

Quote from: bosk1 on December 03, 2015, 11:14:37 AM
Who will find it first?  :corn:

Assuming that a mod is not talking about leaked material... find WHAT?  :eek

Kotowboy

QuoteDream Theater: The Astonishing (now with premier of The Gift of Music!)

:justjen

Madman Shepherd

Quote from: LCArenas on December 03, 2015, 10:56:28 AM
Really loving the leaked track. I didn't think JLB was capable of reaching the high notes anymore until I heard the "CRUCIFYYY" chorus.

*shakes fist*

POOOOOOORRRTNOOOOYYYYYY!!!!!

Architeuthis

Quote from: Nomaniac on December 03, 2015, 11:15:52 AM
Quote from: Architeuthis on December 03, 2015, 11:10:32 AM
Quote from: Nomaniac on December 03, 2015, 10:39:00 AM
Quote from: Architeuthis on December 03, 2015, 10:35:38 AM
Anyone notice the similarities to the new Meagadeth album cover (Dystopia). Looks like Nomacs hovering in a futuristic setting. I wonder if it's the same artist. Btw, the cover looks awesome on the new Megadeth and DT albums..

It has been discussed actually . . . wonder if it is related :huh:
Excuse me for not reading all 71 pages on this thread..   :\

I was just saying it has been discussed matter-of-factly, not trying to attack you ;)

I don't blame you . . . like I've said I wouldn't wish reading this whole thread on anyone :lol

I just meant "I wonder if it is related" as in the two album covers. No worries . . . sorry for the misunderstanding :)
Oh shoot, sorry I misinterpreted what you said (my bad). Thanks for clarifying,  it's all good. :blush

Madman Shepherd

Quote from: theanalogkid7 on December 03, 2015, 10:56:49 AM
I'm not sure if anyone here is familiar, but every time I look at the NOMACs I can't help but think of the servitors from Destiny.



Forgive me if this comparison was made before, I haven't read all 71 pages!  Haha

And I can't help but think of Flight of the Navigator.

Compliance!


theanalogkid7

Quote from: Madman Shepherd on December 03, 2015, 11:27:08 AM
Quote from: theanalogkid7 on December 03, 2015, 10:56:49 AM
I'm not sure if anyone here is familiar, but every time I look at the NOMACs I can't help but think of the servitors from Destiny.



Forgive me if this comparison was made before, I haven't read all 71 pages!  Haha

And I can't help but think of Flight of the Navigator.

Compliance!



:rollin

Train of Naught

Is no one curious why bosk changed the title? I can't find the single   :| tried the obvious by clicking the :nomac: eyes

Kotowboy

Quote from: Train of Naught on December 03, 2015, 11:30:04 AM
Is no one curious why bosk changed the title? I can't find the single   :| tried the obvious by clicking the :nomac: eyes

ASK AND BE BANNED !!!!

r3d86


RoeDent


LCArenas

Quote from: Train of Naught on December 03, 2015, 11:30:04 AM
Is no one curious why bosk changed the title? I can't find the single   :| tried the obvious by clicking the :nomac: eyes
:itsatrap:


CDrice

Quote from: Train of Naught on December 03, 2015, 11:30:04 AM
Is no one curious why bosk changed the title? I can't find the single   :| tried the obvious by clicking the :nomac: eyes

Trolling us is the most obvious answer  :biggrin:

Kotowboy

Quote from: CDrice on December 03, 2015, 11:34:01 AM
Quote from: Train of Naught on December 03, 2015, 11:30:04 AM
Is no one curious why bosk changed the title? I can't find the single   :| tried the obvious by clicking the :nomac: eyes

Trolling us is the most obvious answer  :biggrin:
Trolling us by confirming the title of the first single.

Kotowboy

Quote from: Saxman on December 03, 2015, 11:32:59 AM
I wish I knew what I was allowed to discuss :mehlin

if you aren't sure. Don't discuss anything. And definitely don't link to any music on youtube or elsewhere.


Nomaniac

Quote from: Architeuthis on December 03, 2015, 11:24:12 AM
Oh shoot, sorry I misinterpreted what you said (my bad). Thanks for clarifying,  it's all good. :blush

I could have worded that better as well. But yeah no worries, things like that happen when you're not talking face to face, everything's good :)

Nomaniac


EraVulgaris

The fact that they release The Gift of Music as the first single also hints towards the idea that the first two songs a) won't be actual songs or b) will be instrumental, just because it wouldn't make sense to release a song from a rock opera that's set somewhere in the middle of the story. At least that's how I see it, I don't know how they handled that with SFAM.

Like a few people already said, I think Descent of the NOMACS will probably be some sort of introduction to the NOMACS (heavy, weird opening to the album) while Dystopian Overture will be serve the function Overture 1928 had on SFAM (thus, being instrumental).

I feel like the songs marked with the NOMACS will be tied together (using the same riffs or variations thereof) and am fairly certain that they will be some sort of music, but not the pretty kind. Maybe something heavily distorted,  maybe even noise or industrial-ish? It's also notable that the marked songs all sound like they would be NOMACS songs, even if there were no little NOMACS next to them (Descent of the NOMACS, The Hovering Sojourn, Digital Discord, Machine Chatter and Power Down all relate to the machines in some way)

Judging from the track list, I would guess that at least these songs are actual, longer songs:

The Gift of Music
A Savior in the Square
Heaven's Cove
Whispers on the Wind
Hymn of a Thousand Voices

Thats just 5 songs, but thats because I'm only listing the ones where I feel certain that they could be indeed actual, standalone songs. There probably are a few more. Judging from the structure of the last few tracks, I'm also feeling that Astonishing (even though it's the title track) won't be an overly long epic, but more of an epilogue. If I had to bet money on it, I would guess that Hymn of a Thousand Voices is the climax of the story. Our New World could be a short spoken intermission, Power Down will probably be the ending of the NOMACS (being the final part of the 5 part NOMACS "song") - the story would be pretty much over by this point. I can't see how Astonishing would make sense as a final kick-ass epic song here. It could be a lot like the latest Muse album where Drones (also the title track) feels a lot like it's the last part of the song before (The Globalist) and basically serves as a moody way to end the story.

That's just my thoughts. Oh, and I don't like the album cover that much.

Nothingface

Quote from: Kotowboy on December 03, 2015, 11:35:11 AM
Quote from: Saxman on December 03, 2015, 11:32:59 AM
I wish I knew what I was allowed to discuss :mehlin

if you aren't sure. Don't discuss anything. And definitely don't link to any music on youtube or elsewhere.

SEIG HEIL - ALL HAIL! SEIG HEIL!  :police:

bosk1


mirko_metal_88

I've listened to the song....and i love it.

I really like how they went in a kinda "soft" direction with sounds and riffs in general, it fits James' voice very well...looking forward to hear the whole thing

BlackInk


TheCountOfNYC

I already found it. I know obviously not to link it hear but for those who haven't heard it yet, just know that it's awesome. I'm more excited for this album than I already was and that's saying a lot.
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MirrorMask

Quote from: EraVulgaris on December 03, 2015, 11:39:34 AM
The fact that they release The Gift of Music as the first single also hints towards the idea that the first two songs a) won't be actual songs or b) will be instrumental, just because it wouldn't make sense to release a song from a rock opera that's set somewhere in the middle of the story. At least that's how I see it, I don't know how they handled that with SFAM.

An heavily edited version of Home with all the musical and lyrical references to Metropolis removed.