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Started by RoeDent, December 11, 2013, 02:26:09 AM

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RoeDent

2014 will be a big year for significant anniversaries of Dream Theater albums. Five of them, no less.

5 years since Black Clouds & Silver Linings (2009)
10 years since Live at Budokan (2004)
15 years since Scenes from a Memory (1999)
20 years since Awake (1994)
25 years since When Dream and Day Unite (1989)

:eek  :metal

Sycsa

I think it's time they played:
- The Shattered Fortress
- Instrumedley II
- SDV (as in Space-Dye Vest, although I easily prefer Strange Déjá-Vu)

Even though it might be a good opportunity, I don't think they'll play with MP before the 30th anniversary.

Ad134

Quote from: Sycsa on December 11, 2013, 02:34:12 AM
I think it's time they played:
- The Shattered Fortress
- Instrumedley II
- SDV (as in Space-Dye Vest, although I easily prefer Strange Déjá-Vu)

Even though it might be a good opportunity, I don't think they'll play with MP before the 30th anniversary.
I'm pretty sure they're never going to do another live medley again (JP stated his dislike of medleys in the DTF interview).



Please, please, please give us a full performance of Awake.

RoeDent

I don't think they'll play The Shattered Fortress, because it relies too much on the other 12SS songs, and as it's so personal to MP (much more so than any other songs he wrote), it would be weird.

In my opinion, of course.

Sycsa

All of them are longs shots, obviously, but if they were ever going to play them, this is the best opportunity.

Dream Team

Quote from: Ad134 on December 11, 2013, 02:56:42 AM
Quote from: Sycsa on December 11, 2013, 02:34:12 AM
I think it's time they played:
- The Shattered Fortress
- Instrumedley II
- SDV (as in Space-Dye Vest, although I easily prefer Strange Déjá-Vu)

Even though it might be a good opportunity, I don't think they'll play with MP before the 30th anniversary.
I'm pretty sure they're never going to do another live medley again (JP stated his dislike of medleys in the DTF interview).



Please, please, please give us a full performance of Awake.

That would be way too difficult for James at this point.

Also, minor quibble, the 5-yr anniversary of SC is not significant at all.

cramx3

Neither is the budokan anniversary.

Id think there would be a decent amount of awake songs on the next tour and maybe a song from wdadu. They played two already with MM, maybe those two cone back up but id like to see some of the other songs.

RoeDent

Quote from: Dream Team on December 11, 2013, 06:12:13 AM

Also, minor quibble, the 5-yr anniversary of SC is not significant at all.

I think you mean BC&SL

Quote from: cramx3 on December 11, 2013, 06:17:41 AM
Neither is the budokan anniversary.


Yes I know, but they're still anniversaries of album releases. Just pointing them out, is all. Whether they're celebrated in any way shape or form (nothing wrong with giving them a spin on their "big day") is, of course, entirely up to you.

JiM-Xtreme

This kind of goes to demonstrate the startling regularity with which DT come out with new albums. Every year will be the anniversary of something.

I really hope they don't go crazy with the anniversary thing. I know they've alluded to doing a little special something already but I just hope it doesn't detract too much from the "here and now" DT.

I personally think if anything, they'll be giving some extra recognition to Awake and SFAM. And by that I mean, incorporate a select few songs into the Evening With setlist, and not necessarily in sequence. They've already teased the return of SDV (at some point - I think).

I don't know, I just feel that the days in which they would play past albums in their entirety are long gone. But I would love to be proved wrong when I go to see them in Feb!  :biggrin:

cramx3

I agree. I see the anniversary nod being maybe a few extra songs than normal from those albums. Definitely not a whole album live thing. Although I wouldn't mind all of DT12 on this coming tour but I believe that isn't happening.

RoeDent

Quote from: cramx3 on December 11, 2013, 11:17:32 AM
Although I wouldn't mind all of DT12 on this coming tour but I believe that isn't happening.

Well, they managed to get all of ADTOE (a longer album) on the last tour, and that wasn't an "Evening With" tour.

Setlist Scotty

Interesting that there are so many (multiples of 5) anniversaries this coming year. I wouldn't give the L@B anniversary much thought, but I hope that there will be decent representations of each of the studio albums in the upcoming setlists - especially WDaDU and BCaSL as I think it's safe to expect that Awake and SFaM will both be represented well on the upcoming tour.

I agree with whoever posted about them doing a second Instrumedley - it would be perfect for them to do something like that based around the 12 Step Suite songs but include other instrumental bits of songs that they'll never otherwise play (TBoT, NE, etc). Another thing that I think would be cool is for them to do a 20 minute condensed version of SFaM - like a SFaM version of the original Metropolis part II, which would leave more room in the set for other songs. But I know that these are both pipe dreams that will never happen now since JP's taken the sole lead of the band, and he hates medleys.
Quote from: BlobVanDam on November 13, 2015, 07:37:14 PMAs a basic rule, if you hate it, you must solely blame Portnoy. If it's good, then you must downplay MP's contribution to the band as not being important anyway, or claim he's just lying. It's the DTF way.
Quote from: TAC on July 10, 2024, 08:26:41 AMPOW is awesome! :P

Theme Dreater

I hope I'm able to see DT on this upcoming tour, it really sounds like it's gonna be excellent. Four of these anniversaries are for some of top favorite DT albums, so I have a feeling I'll be ecstatic with any setlist they decide to play.

cramx3

The idea of a SFAM medley is really cool, as for instrumedley 2 idea that's pretty cool as well but I'm thinking they'll do Enigma Machine and Overture 1928 as instrumentals on this tour as serious possibilities.

ZirconBlue

Quote from: Ad134 on December 11, 2013, 02:56:42 AM

I'm pretty sure they're never going to do another live medley again (JP stated his dislike of medleys in the DTF interview).


I think he's been stating his dislike of medleys since like 1986.

emtee

In the chat with DTF members JP said he hated medleys and it seemed the other guys felt the same way. I would be
surprised if they ever played another medley.

Since Awake is still my favorite DT album the thought of heavy representation excites me...thinking of the entire album
as a 2nd set at a couple select places (and recorded for future release) really excites me. But I doubt that will happen.

Setlist Scotty

Quote from: ZirconBlue on December 13, 2013, 10:20:46 AM
Quote from: Ad134 on December 11, 2013, 02:56:42 AM
I'm pretty sure they're never going to do another live medley again (JP stated his dislike of medleys in the DTF interview).
I think he's been stating his dislike of medleys since like 1986.
LOL! Perhaps. But in any case, I'm guessing that MP convinced JP to do the medleys since he was the one who wrote all the setlists. More than likely, part of MP's reasoning was the fact that with a growing catalog of material, there'd be no way to play everything they'd want to, so the medley served the purpose of fitting more stuff in to a 2 hour (or less) show.

You'll notice that once they started to do the Evening With tours, the medleys seemed to disappear completely, aside from the Instrumedley. So I'd guess that one of the agreements made was that they wouldn't do medleys on the Evening With tours, since there would have been more time to play more songs.

I guess that's one area that JP won't ever follow his WWRD® mentality.
Quote from: BlobVanDam on November 13, 2015, 07:37:14 PMAs a basic rule, if you hate it, you must solely blame Portnoy. If it's good, then you must downplay MP's contribution to the band as not being important anyway, or claim he's just lying. It's the DTF way.
Quote from: TAC on July 10, 2024, 08:26:41 AMPOW is awesome! :P

Marion Crane

Quote from: RoeDent on December 11, 2013, 11:31:04 AM
Quote from: cramx3 on December 11, 2013, 11:17:32 AM
Although I wouldn't mind all of DT12 on this coming tour but I believe that isn't happening.

Well, they managed to get all of ADTOE (a longer album) on the last tour, and that wasn't an "Evening With" tour.

God I hope they don't play all of DT12 on this tour

Sycsa

Quote from: Marion Crane on December 13, 2013, 10:59:46 AM
Quote from: RoeDent on December 11, 2013, 11:31:04 AM
Quote from: cramx3 on December 11, 2013, 11:17:32 AM
Although I wouldn't mind all of DT12 on this coming tour but I believe that isn't happening.

Well, they managed to get all of ADTOE (a longer album) on the last tour, and that wasn't an "Evening With" tour.

God I hope they don't play all of DT12 on this tour
Mangini said he hopes they will play "every freakin' minute of it". Since it's a given that FAS will be the show opener and IT will be played, seeing how short the rest of the songs are, it's the safest bet ever that they'll find their place in the setlist, at least in rotation. I would be counting on TEI, AFTR and hopefully EM to be played every night.

DarkLord_Lalinc

Quote from: Sycsa on December 11, 2013, 02:34:12 AM
I think it's time they played:
- The Shattered Fortress

I don't see that happening. Never.

Setlist Scotty

Quote from: Sycsa on December 13, 2013, 11:11:44 AM
Since it's a given that FAS will be the show opener and IT will be played, seeing how short the rest of the songs are, it's the safest bet ever that they'll find their place in the setlist, at least in rotation. I would be counting on TEI, AFTR and hopefully EM to be played every night.
For once, I fully agree with everything you said.  :)
Quote from: BlobVanDam on November 13, 2015, 07:37:14 PMAs a basic rule, if you hate it, you must solely blame Portnoy. If it's good, then you must downplay MP's contribution to the band as not being important anyway, or claim he's just lying. It's the DTF way.
Quote from: TAC on July 10, 2024, 08:26:41 AMPOW is awesome! :P

gmillerdrake

Quote from: DarkLord_Lalinc on December 13, 2013, 11:14:58 AM
Quote from: Sycsa on December 11, 2013, 02:34:12 AM
I think it's time they played:
- The Shattered Fortress

I don't see that happening. Never.

Let's hope you're right. That song isn't that good.....could be my least favorite DT song ever. It's lazy to me. I know/read that some folks love it and more power to you if you do.....I just can't seem to stomach it.

Rodni Demental

I think it's time for DT to give Awake a full run live. Some might disagree but if there was any album of theirs that hasn't had it's deserved full representation live, it's this one.

Scenes would certainly be pretty awesome to see again with the new lineup and more modern production. Besides, it'd only take up the first set in an 'evening with' format and it's not like they'd need to play it every night.

Also, it'd be cool to see a few more nods to When Dream and Day unite, it's always been nice to see DT making an active attempt to not ignore this era.

Mebert78

I'd love to see Awake in its entirety for a live date or two.  And I'd love to see a full-band version of "Space-Dye Vest." 
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Setlist Scotty

Quote from: Mebert78 on December 16, 2013, 01:24:25 PM
I'd love to see a full-band version of "Space-Dye Vest."
If they do it, here's hoping that it ends up on an official live recording. That would be awesome to hear - especially after all this time.
Quote from: BlobVanDam on November 13, 2015, 07:37:14 PMAs a basic rule, if you hate it, you must solely blame Portnoy. If it's good, then you must downplay MP's contribution to the band as not being important anyway, or claim he's just lying. It's the DTF way.
Quote from: TAC on July 10, 2024, 08:26:41 AMPOW is awesome! :P

TAC

Quote from: Setlist Scotty on December 16, 2013, 02:10:10 PM
Quote from: Mebert78 on December 16, 2013, 01:24:25 PM
I'd love to see a full-band version of "Space-Dye Vest."
If they do it, here's hoping that it ends up on an official live recording. That would be awesome to hear - especially after all this time.
Amen, brother.
Quote from: wkiml on June 08, 2012, 09:06:35 AMwould have thought the same thing but seeing the OP was TAC i immediately thought Maiden or DT related
Quote from: Stadler on February 08, 2025, 12:49:43 PMI wouldn't argue this.

son_ov_hades

25 years since When Dream And Day Unite  :o I hope they put The Ones Who Help To Set The Sun in the setlist to celebrate.

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Quote from: son_ov_hades on December 17, 2013, 05:52:55 AM
25 years since When Dream And Day Unite  :o I hope they put The Ones Who Help To Set The Sun in the setlist to celebrate.
I'd be happy to hear any WDADU song, but especially that one :metal I don't think TOWHTSTS will get played, though :(

TheAtliator

I'd love to see Awake in its entirety, I think that would be the GREATEST thing they could possibly do for me at a live show. I'd also love to see a bunch from WDADU. TOWHTSTS, LFAGA, and TKH would be my favorites.

Setlist Scotty

Quote from: TheAtliator on December 17, 2013, 08:31:35 AM
I'd also love to see a bunch from WDADU. TOWHTSTS, LFAGA, and TKH would be my favorites.
Agreed!
Quote from: BlobVanDam on November 13, 2015, 07:37:14 PMAs a basic rule, if you hate it, you must solely blame Portnoy. If it's good, then you must downplay MP's contribution to the band as not being important anyway, or claim he's just lying. It's the DTF way.
Quote from: TAC on July 10, 2024, 08:26:41 AMPOW is awesome! :P

chrisbDTM

i didnt read this whole thread but JP said on sirius radio that the next tour will feature alot of awake songs to celebrate that anniversary

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Quote from: chrisbDTM on December 17, 2013, 03:09:58 PM
i didnt read this whole thread but JP said on sirius radio that the next tour will feature alot of awake songs to celebrate that anniversary
:caffeine:

In the NA tour announcement JP said they're going to play songs that haven't been played before, so it looks like SDV will finally be played, perhaps TSF too.

TheAtliator

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bosk1

I REALLY hope they play Space Dye Vest.

theseoafs

^ That.  I'm not even that big a fan of the song, but I still think it's very good and it'll be nice to finally hear it live.