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Illumination Theory... (let's call it appreciation thread)

Started by Knguro, September 20, 2013, 03:09:16 PM

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volwrath

 I dont want to bring down the value of this thread anymore than I have :) So I apologize and other than that IT is a masterpiece  :metal

Knguro

Quote from: emtee on September 23, 2013, 02:47:05 PM
It's a very special song. Really connects. It's up there with DT's best and yeah, during the middle section it can really tug
on the heart strings.


I feel sorry for the people that can't connect with it like many of us can.

So much this.

adastra

Best song on the album... Maybe a little too much soloing , but I can live with that.
The Orchestral part is the best shit ever on DT album.!

Destiny Of Chaos

I don't know how they still do it. This might be the best song that they've ever done.......

Let's see if I still feel this way in 6 months.

hefdaddy42

Quote from: Destiny Of Chaos on September 24, 2013, 02:10:15 PM
I don't know how they still do it. This might be the best song that they've ever done.......
I'm not prepared to go that far with it.

But it's really friggin' good.
Quote from: BlobVanDam on December 11, 2014, 08:19:46 PMHef is right on all things. Except for when I disagree with him. In which case he's probably still right.

Lowdz

I will just say James LaBrie you fucking beauty...

volwrath

5.1 IT is an amazing experience.  It makes full use of the 5.1

Knguro

Quote from: Destiny Of Chaos on September 24, 2013, 02:10:15 PM
I don't know how they still do it. This might be the best song that they've ever done.......


I'm "afraid" this could be easily true.

Octawakeimages

I had shivers down my spine many times in that song and the album.  Love it!  Only one play through so far and many more to come!  :hefdaddy

Madman Shepherd

I don't think I've ever cried just by listening to a song.


You put on the series finale of Full House though.....Niagara Falls  :'(

Grizz

Only two moments in music have made my eyes water. The string break in IT, and the solo in The Count of Tuscany in the bootleg from July 10, 2010. That's saying something, especially considering the amount of nostalgia that contributes to the latter.

KevShmev

The first half of this song is really growing me... This song is turning out to be quite the beast. :metal

philippaopao

Quote from: JRuivo on September 23, 2013, 09:57:08 AM
Is it just me, or the first notes of Illumination Theory sound like ABBA's Dancing Queen?   :lol :lol :lol

I guess DT and ABBA are both inspired by Tchaikovsky in their own respective songs.  :lol

Knguro

Quote from: Madman Shepherd on September 24, 2013, 07:50:56 PM
I don't think I've ever cried just by listening to a song.


You put on the series finale of Full House though.....Niagara Falls  :'(

Come on man hahahahah

wolven74

This was the only song I hadn't heard prior to buying the CD.... When I heard it I was floored. The theme is so uplifting yet sad at the same time. Every part of this song just kills. The highlight is, of course, the string section performing Jordan's Godly melody. :hefdaddy  Seriously, The Embracing Circle is the most beautiful piece of music I've ever heard from this band. I didn't cry, but I did bow my head and felt the presence of God. It's THAT good.  :angel: When the band comes back in it's like a punch in the gut, with JM and MM doing some killer unisons, followed by James doing something I haven't heard in 20 years, reaching the higher registers like a boss. Then comes the most epic metal instrumental section since I don't know when. I mean this song has it all. The "easter egg" is another Godly moment that is just amazing. I can't praise this song enough.

Dream Theater's best song. Period. :hefdaddy

7StringedBeast

If you listen carefully you can hear the Bridges in the Sky vocal effect patch from JR.  It is in the segue into the ambient part.

The Stray Seed

Hi guys, I have a question for you. If you listen to the initial part of the Easter Egg through headphones (where there's only Jordan playing alone), you can hear a strange - more or less rythmical - sound in the background. Sounds like a thin metal surface vibrating or something like that... don't know how to explain but if you listen carefully you'll hear it. So, what's that in your opinion?

Systematik88

Quote from: The Stray Seed on September 25, 2013, 01:58:28 AM
Hi guys, I have a question for you. If you listen to the initial part of the Easter Egg through headphones (where there's only Jordan playing alone), you can hear a strange - more or less rythmical - sound in the background. Sounds like a thin metal surface vibrating or something like that... don't know how to explain but if you listen carefully you'll hear it. So, what's that in your opinion?

Pretty sure thats the pedal of the piano going up and down.  It can sound like that in a recording environment

The Stray Seed

Quote from: Systematik88 on September 25, 2013, 02:35:37 AM
Quote from: The Stray Seed on September 25, 2013, 01:58:28 AM
Hi guys, I have a question for you. If you listen to the initial part of the Easter Egg through headphones (where there's only Jordan playing alone), you can hear a strange - more or less rythmical - sound in the background. Sounds like a thin metal surface vibrating or something like that... don't know how to explain but if you listen carefully you'll hear it. So, what's that in your opinion?

Pretty sure thats the pedal of the piano going up and down.  It can sound like that in a recording environment

Thank you Systematik!! :tup

wolfking

This song is absolutely growing on me, it's incredible DT have come up with something like this.  After ADTOE, I was skeptical to see what they had left in them, but this song is absolutely legit and is an instant DT classic.  The last section gave me goosebumps listening in the car on the way to work this morning.  Well done DT.

Also, does anyone have any theories about the point of the easter egg?   Has any of the band members talked about it.  I like it and all, but I guess I'm just thinking, why?

adastra

Quote from: wolfking on September 25, 2013, 03:21:34 AM
This song is absolutely growing on me, it's incredible DT have come up with something like this.  After ADTOE, I was skeptical to see what they had left in them, but this song is absolutely legit and is an instant DT classic.  The last section gave me goosebumps listening in the car on the way to work this morning.  Well done DT.

Also, does anyone have any theories about the point of the easter egg?   Has any of the band members talked about it.  I like it and all, but I guess I'm just thinking, why?

I was thinking the same!  I like the song itself, but is there a bigger meaning for it o.o

wasteland

We must know the bigger picture! I read somewhere (here?) some guy saying it's a teaser for the next concept album, focused on that theme. I chuckled  :lol

?

Quote from: wasteland on September 25, 2013, 03:39:00 AM
We must know the bigger picture! I read somewhere (here?) some guy saying it's a teaser for the next concept album, focused on that theme. At first I was like



Then I lol'd.


FTFY

wolfking


Systematik88

I have to point out how awesome 2:40 is in the song.  It only lasts a short time but it has to be one of my favorite small moments from the album

wasteland

I finished IT in HD.



This song is beautiful. A 10/10, probably.

The Stray Seed

Quote from: wolfking on September 25, 2013, 03:21:34 AM
This song is absolutely growing on me, it's incredible DT have come up with something like this.  After ADTOE, I was skeptical to see what they had left in them, but this song is absolutely legit and is an instant DT classic.  The last section gave me goosebumps listening in the car on the way to work this morning.  Well done DT.

Also, does anyone have any theories about the point of the easter egg?   Has any of the band members talked about it.  I like it and all, but I guess I'm just thinking, why?

As many have said before me, I think it works perfectly has a closer: it embodies the sense of peace and bliss after the amazing ride, after the great travel that the album symbolizes. To me, it feels like the happiness and sweet satisfatcion of the accomplished goal. Unearthly goal maybe? Because it's too beautiful to be something tied to the gravity. A glimpse into some kind of enlightment, or a brand new awareness of the soul.

wolfking

#97
Quote from: The Stray Seed on September 25, 2013, 03:53:12 AM
Quote from: wolfking on September 25, 2013, 03:21:34 AM
This song is absolutely growing on me, it's incredible DT have come up with something like this.  After ADTOE, I was skeptical to see what they had left in them, but this song is absolutely legit and is an instant DT classic.  The last section gave me goosebumps listening in the car on the way to work this morning.  Well done DT.

Also, does anyone have any theories about the point of the easter egg?   Has any of the band members talked about it.  I like it and all, but I guess I'm just thinking, why?

As many have said before me, I think it works perfectly has a closer: it embodies the sense of peace and bliss after the amazing ride, after the great travel that the album symbolizes. To me, it feels like the happiness and sweet satisfatcion of the accomplished goal. Unearthly goal maybe? Because it's too beautiful to be something tied to the gravity. A glimpse into some kind of enlightment, or a brand new awareness of the soul.

I think it works too, was just curious as to what the band where trying to accomplish.  I see what you are getting at, it definitely makes sense, and well said.

Also, I love the melody at 13:06.

wasteland

Quote from: The Stray Seed on September 25, 2013, 03:53:12 AM
To me, it feels like the happiness and sweet satisfatcion of the accomplished goal. Unearthly goal maybe? Because it's too beautiful to be something tied to the gravity. A glimpse into some kind of enlightment, or a brand new awareness of the soul.

Someone please send this sentence to the band. They need to read it.

GandL

IT for me is a bombastic masterpiece. This is how I like DT. The best piece of music they ever done (in my own opinion).

Dream Team

Does anyone else think the Easter Egg would have worked better as the quiet section rather than the orchestra? Not saying the orchestra is bad by any means; but at least that way the band is still playing. Either way the song is awesome. That section starting at 11:00  :omg:  :metal

Mosh

Nope. Orchestra bit is the best part, definitely wouldn't change it.

jayvee3

Quote from: wolfking on September 25, 2013, 03:21:34 AM
This song is absolutely growing on me, it's incredible DT have come up with something like this.  After ADTOE, I was skeptical to see what they had left in them, but this song is absolutely legit and is an instant DT classic.  The last section gave me goosebumps listening in the car on the way to work this morning.  Well done DT.

Also, does anyone have any theories about the point of the easter egg?   Has any of the band members talked about it.  I like it and all, but I guess I'm just thinking, why?

Purely speculation, but to me, the easter egg music may serve two purposes, and will be the twin brother of False Awakening Suite. So just as FAS is meant to kickstart the theatrical nature of the album, and open the live setting, the easter egg music does the same thing at the other end. Meaning - 1. after a cinematic ride of an album, it acts to close out the album, as if some credits were rolling in a film; and 2. In a live setting, I think it might be played once the concert is over, and the people start filing out of the arena etc...

Just my 2 cents.. :)

TAC

Quote from: jayvee3 on September 25, 2013, 05:57:01 AM
Quote from: wolfking on September 25, 2013, 03:21:34 AM
This song is absolutely growing on me, it's incredible DT have come up with something like this.  After ADTOE, I was skeptical to see what they had left in them, but this song is absolutely legit and is an instant DT classic.  The last section gave me goosebumps listening in the car on the way to work this morning.  Well done DT.

Also, does anyone have any theories about the point of the easter egg?   Has any of the band members talked about it.  I like it and all, but I guess I'm just thinking, why?

Purely speculation, but to me, the easter egg music may serve two purposes, and will be the twin brother of False Awakening Suite. So just as FAS is meant to kickstart the theatrical nature of the album, and open the live setting, the easter egg music does the same thing at the other end. Meaning - 1. after a cinematic ride of an album, it acts to close out the album, as if some credits were rolling in a film; and 2. In a live setting, I think it might be played once the concert is over, and the people start filing out of the arena etc...

Just my 2 cents.. :)

That is more than reasonable.
Quote from: wkiml on June 08, 2012, 09:06:35 AMwould have thought the same thing but seeing the OP was TAC i immediately thought Maiden or DT related
Quote from: Stadler on February 08, 2025, 12:49:43 PMI wouldn't argue this.

JRuivo

Quote from: jayvee3 on September 25, 2013, 05:57:01 AM
Quote from: wolfking on September 25, 2013, 03:21:34 AM
This song is absolutely growing on me, it's incredible DT have come up with something like this.  After ADTOE, I was skeptical to see what they had left in them, but this song is absolutely legit and is an instant DT classic.  The last section gave me goosebumps listening in the car on the way to work this morning.  Well done DT.

Also, does anyone have any theories about the point of the easter egg?   Has any of the band members talked about it.  I like it and all, but I guess I'm just thinking, why?

Purely speculation, but to me, the easter egg music may serve two purposes, and will be the twin brother of False Awakening Suite. So just as FAS is meant to kickstart the theatrical nature of the album, and open the live setting, the easter egg music does the same thing at the other end. Meaning - 1. after a cinematic ride of an album, it acts to close out the album, as if some credits were rolling in a film; and 2. In a live setting, I think it might be played once the concert is over, and the people start filing out of the arena etc...

Just my 2 cents.. :)

That's what I thought too!! Just like FAS opens up the movie, the easter egg means it's over, and the credits are rolling :)