In The Studio - Episode 4

[wolfking]

With the risk of being kicked out of the forum, I dare ask: is it just me, or does anyone else think the band is going out of their way to show that they´re collaborating much more with each other now? At times in this video it slightly seems they are trying too hard to show that "hey, it´s all ok now, we´re moving forward and we´re much more of a team now that Portnoy has left".

All that said, the video does build up the anticipation for the new album, and I´m VERY MUCH looking forward to it. I think the new album will kick ADTOE in the a$$ from the very first listen.

I don't think you can get kicked out for that.

Nevertheless, I somewhat agree.  Perhaps it is the most pleasureable experience they have all had, but as I said above, we get it, it does seem to be a little overboard.

[MoraWintersoul]

With the risk of being kicked out of the forum, I dare ask: is it just me, or does anyone else think the band is going out of their way to show that they´re collaborating much more with each other now? At times in this video it slightly seems they are trying too hard to show that "hey, it´s all ok now, we´re moving forward and we´re much more of a team now that Portnoy has left".

All that said, the video does build up the anticipation for the new album, and I´m VERY MUCH looking forward to it. I think the new album will kick ADTOE in the a$$ from the very first listen.

Dude, no one's gonna kick you out for any opinion as long as you phrase it respectfully

[RodrigoAltaf]

wolfking and MoraWintersoul: 

[BlobVanDam]

I'm not seeing a problem with that opinion.

Without showing us the music, they focus on the recording process, and the recording process happens to include a good dynamic between all of the band members. I don't think they're intentionally trying to say anything, I think that's just what it happens to be.

[wasteland]

They are indeed showing us that they worked tremendously good as a team, but I don't think that a Post-Portnoy-Traumatic-Disorder is the direct reason for that.

[serrano]

Well, i don't see anything special in those statements, it's "making of" 101, i give it slightly more credibility because they showed this good dynamic in the last tour.

[Lynxo]

They are indeed showing us that they worked tremendously good as a team, but I don't think that a Post-Portnoy-Traumatic-Disorder is the direct reason for that.

Besides, I always got the feeling that even with Portnoy, there was much harmony and fun in the band. I know others disagree but I've always thought that was just people overanalyzing.

[RodrigoAltaf]

They are indeed showing us that they worked tremendously good as a team, but I don't think that a Post-Portnoy-Traumatic-Disorder is the direct reason for that.

Besides, I always got the feeling that even with Portnoy, there was much harmony and fun in the band. I know others disagree but I've always thought that was just people overanalyzing.

With the exception of the BCSL making of, I agree with you.

[mikeyd23]

Besides, I always got the feeling that even with Portnoy, there was much harmony and fun in the band. I know others disagree but I've always thought that was just people overanalyzing.

Complete guessing on my part but I got the vibe this was true sometimes and other times MP's actions and personality caused some disharmony.  Like I said though, just speculating!

[The Boomr]

MP and JLB definitely did not get along at certain points in the band's past, but those were mostly resolved (as far as we know) around ToT and after, I think. The only Big change in dynamic and fun between band members that I'm noticing now is the fact that JM quite obviously adores MM It's so cute. I noticed it when I saw them perform, right away, and it's evident in this recent episode as well. It's really cool to see JM so happy about the drummer. I didn't get the feeling he disliked Portnoy, but it was kinda just like he didn't care one way or the other.

[RodrigoAltaf]

MP and JLB definitely did not get along at certain points in the band's past, but those were mostly resolved (as far as we know) around ToT and after, I think. The only Big change in dynamic and fun between band members that I'm noticing now is the fact that JM quite obviously adores MM It's so cute. I noticed it when I saw them perform, right away, and it's evident in this recent episode as well. It's really cool to see JM so happy about the drummer. I didn't get the feeling he disliked Portnoy, but it was kinda just like he didn't care one way or the other.

This. And other times he may have been unhappy with Portnoy, but since he doesn´t seem to be the confrontational type, he just chose to be quiet about it.

[The Boomr]

Yeah that's definitely a possibility. If the vibe I'm getting is correct then it would seem that JM, JP, JR and MM now form more of a core compositional group, while it sorta seemed like a lot of later stuff with MP was just MP and JP collaborating, especially on BC&SL.

[MoraWintersoul]

The only Big change in dynamic and fun between band members that I'm noticing now is the fact that JM quite obviously adores MM It's so cute.

You bet

[puppyonacid]

Pure speculation...but regarding JM and MM; don't they share a faith? That's probably where that kinship resides.....JM probably respects how MM really pushes himself from an artistic POV as well. It was fairly well documented that MP didn't really have any desire to get any technically better as a drummer and was much more interested in ancillary stuff like running the band/producing etc. Am I wrong?

[Zydar]

Milena: Naaaw

[lyfeternl]

The only Big change in dynamic and fun between band members that I'm noticing now is the fact that JM quite obviously adores MM It's so cute.

You bet

Those gifs make my heart happy 

[MrBoom_shack-a-lack]

The only Big change in dynamic and fun between band members that I'm noticing now is the fact that JM quite obviously adores MM It's so cute.

You bet

Love the second one: Come here you...

[RodrigoAltaf]

Pure speculation...but regarding JM and MM; don't they share a faith?

I didn´t know that...which one?

[puppyonacid]

Im sure theyre both born again christians. MM regularly refers to his faith in interviews and I have seen a picture of JMs bass set up with an "I Love Jesus" sticker on the side floating around the net.

[nikatapi]

Yeah it seems that JM and MM get along very well, i think MM said in an interview that JM asked him to lower some parts of his drumkit or something, so he could see him better while performing.

Hopefully this good relationship will result in interesting collaborations in the rhythmic department on the new album.

[puppyonacid]

Yea I got the feeling when I went to see them. Whatever the reason is, they obviously click....which is nice.

[The Boomr]

You bet

Amazing GIFs! I love that JM pulls him in like that I didn't know they shared faith either.

Pure speculation...but regarding JM and MM; don't they share a faith? That's probably where that kinship resides.....JM probably respects how MM really pushes himself from an artistic POV as well. It was fairly well documented that MP didn't really have any desire to get any technically better as a drummer and was much more interested in ancillary stuff like running the band/producing etc. Am I wrong?

MP did say that at least once, for sure. But then he went and did a blast-beat in ANTR..... Not that it was a particularly well-done blast-beat, but still. That impressed me a little at the time because I remember him saying he didn't have time to learn more and more new techniques etc., but then he went and did something new anyway! Then again, that was just about the only new thing he did on that album.

[wasteland]

Can we just make that GIF the official banner of Dream Theater? It's that good!

[aprilethereal]

With the risk of being kicked out of the forum, I dare ask: is it just me, or does anyone else think the band is going out of their way to show that they´re collaborating much more with each other now? At times in this video it slightly seems they are trying too hard to show that "hey, it´s all ok now, we´re moving forward and we´re much more of a team now that Portnoy has left".

All that said, the video does build up the anticipation for the new album, and I´m VERY MUCH looking forward to it. I think the new album will kick ADTOE in the a$$ from the very first listen.

I don't think you can get kicked out for that.

Nevertheless, I somewhat agree.  Perhaps it is the most pleasureable experience they have all had, but as I said above, we get it, it does seem to be a little overboard.

It's promotion after all


And big for JM & MM. That was probably my favourite part of the video.

[mikeyd23]

Yea I got the feeling when I went to see them. Whatever the reason is, they obviously click....which is nice.

Yeah, like everyone's been saying JM and MM seem to have a bond and relationship that wasn't there with MP and JM, at least in recent years leading up to MP's departure.  Having the drummer and bass player locked into each other and clicking is never anything but good! 

[Mosh]

They are indeed showing us that they worked tremendously good as a team, but I don't think that a Post-Portnoy-Traumatic-Disorder is the direct reason for that.

Besides, I always got the feeling that even with Portnoy, there was much harmony and fun in the band. I know others disagree but I've always thought that was just people overanalyzing.

With the exception of the BCSL making of, I agree with you.

There's a BCSL making of? Where do I find this?

[aprilethereal]

It's only a couple of minutes afaik

[Kotowboy]

Im sure theyre both born again christians. MM regularly refers to his faith in interviews and I have seen a picture of JMs bass set up with an "I Love Jesus" sticker on the side floating around the net.

LaBrie is more deist if I recall correctly and Mrs. Petrucci has posted on this forum in the past to state that John is a devout Catholic.

Portnoy has said in the past that Neal Morse has talked to him about it and whilst he "totally gets it" - he hasn't time for that.

[phentalmyst]

i thought i read somewhere JM is now buddhist...

[senecadawg2]

i thought i read somewhere JM is now buddhist...

[The Boomr]

i thought i read somewhere JM is now buddhist...

I honestly have no real idea, but that sounds like the kind of thing a DTF member would say jokingly since JM is always the calm reserved type

[mikeyd23]

Portnoy has said in the past that Neal Morse has talked to him about it and whilst he "totally gets it" - he hasn't time for that.

Hmm, thats interesting I didn't know that. Always wondered what effect Neal's strong beliefs had on MP since they have worked together a lot over the years.

[PixelDream]

I don't really know what to think about MP stagnating on a certain technical level. On SC there was his drumming under the solo in Constant Motion, which I think was really original and cool. And on BC&SL: gotta love that ANTR intro. To be totally honest, I've yet to hear such creativity from MM in Dream Theater. So far, it seems to me MM brings a more clinical vibe instead of a looser, cooler vibe. Where's the swag at?

[Kotowboy]

I've read a few people that simply apply Buddhist philosophies to their Christian faith. Since Buddhism isn't really a religion.

[Kotowboy]

I don't really know what to think about MP stagnating on a certain technical level. On SC there was his drumming under the solo in Constant Motion, which I think was really original and cool. And on BC&SL: gotta love that ANTR intro. To be totally honest, I've yet to hear such creativity from MM in Dream Theater. So far, it seems to me MM brings a more clinical vibe instead of a looser, cooler vibe. Where's the swag at?

Well so far - we've had one album where Mangini was the new guy so probably didn't want to over play - and one song from the new album.

Hardly fair to compare 10 albums of a notoriously showy and overplaying drummer to one album of a drummer who plays for the song.