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Who wants to listen to Metropolis Pt. III?

Started by Perpetual Change, July 25, 2013, 10:59:03 AM

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Perpetual Change

Lately there seems to be some renwered anticipation for Dream Theater to do a follow up to Scenes From a Memory.

I listened to Scenes awhile ago, and honestly, it has not help up particularly well. Although there are a few songs I love (Beyond this Life, The Spirit Caries On), I do not enjoy the story, and while I think that while Metropolis itself is an awesome song, a third refrain of its musical themes would just be overkill. Personally, I probably would rank Scenes in the bottom half of Dream Theater albums: better than WDADU and the four album run from Train of Thought to Black Clouds, but below everything else.

So it goes without saying that I really have no interest in a Metropolis Pt. III record. Does anyone?

Tom Bombadil

I agree. Although I like Scenes, I don't want DT to just keep going back to something they've already had success doing. I want them to keep progressing and expanding to different sounds.

Mister Gold

I'd rather not have a Metropolis Pt. 3, though I am open to the band doing another concept album in the future, so long as it's completely new. :tup

Mosh

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I don't understand why anybody would want Metropolis III.

senecadawg2

While I would like to listen to it, I'd rather they not make it. SFAM is my favorite DT album, but I'd rather go for something new.
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wasteland

Definitely not me! But I mean, if they were to actually do it it's not that I would bar my ears to it.  :lol

kirksnosehair

I'd like to hear a song based on the Metropolis themes, maybe an epic or semi-epic, but an entire album would be too much, I think.  Metropolis started out as a single track, was expanded to a full concept album, and now they could consider Part III to be a sort of Epilogue.  A single track to bring the concept to a final conclusion.



senecadawg2

Quote from: kirksnosehair on July 25, 2013, 11:08:01 AM
I'd like to hear a song based on the Metropolis themes, maybe an epic or semi-epic, but an entire album would be too much, I think.  Metropolis started out as a single track, was expanded to a full concept album, and now they could consider Part III to be a sort of Epilogue.  A single track to bring the concept to a final conclusion.

The ideal
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Shadow Ninja 2.0

Quote from: senecadawg2 on July 25, 2013, 11:09:14 AM
Quote from: kirksnosehair on July 25, 2013, 11:08:01 AM
I'd like to hear a song based on the Metropolis themes, maybe an epic or semi-epic, but an entire album would be too much, I think.  Metropolis started out as a single track, was expanded to a full concept album, and now they could consider Part III to be a sort of Epilogue.  A single track to bring the concept to a final conclusion.

The ideal


accidentally the whole thing?

wasteland

Sort of what Moon Safary did with Lover's End? Could be an idea for an EP.

bosk1

Quote from: Mosh on July 25, 2013, 11:05:19 AMI don't understand why anybody would want Metropolis III.

Pretty much this.  I love SFAM.  But there is zero reason to do a pt. III.

GasparXR

Quote from: Perpetual Change on July 25, 2013, 10:59:03 AM
Lately there seems to be some renwered anticipation for Dream Theater to do a follow up to Scenes From a Memory.

There is anticipation for Metropolis Pt. 3 before every album. XD

hefdaddy42

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Joshin U

Some sequels things are best left untouched.

DarkLord_Lalinc

A Metropolis Pt. III would feel like an Operation Mindcrime Pt. II.

Lucidity

I don't think it's something they should do. But if they did do it, I'd have faith in them that it wouldn't be bad. I just can't imagine them doing it though.

bosk1

Quote from: DarkLord_Lalinc on July 25, 2013, 11:34:41 AM
A Metropolis Pt. III would feel like an Operation Mindcrime Pt. II.

I thought about making that exact same analogy.  But the thing is, Mindcrime II could have been really good.  Both musically and storywise, there are some really cool ideas.  It's just that Tate was in it solely for the cash grab and didn't include his bandmates or listen to anyone else to take it the direction it should have gone.  The delayed revenge motif, and the theme of revenge being unsatisfying, and the resulting dispair are cool ideas that fit the Mindcrime story very well, if not for being ruined by other stupid ideas that did not belong there.

Scenes was great.  But there is nowhere logical to take it that I can conceive of making me say, "Oh yeah, that's a cool, logical extension of the ideas developed in Scenes."


Joshin U

Quote from: bosk1 on July 25, 2013, 11:41:27 AM
Quote from: DarkLord_Lalinc on July 25, 2013, 11:34:41 AM
A Metropolis Pt. III would feel like an Operation Mindcrime Pt. II.
Scenes was great.  But there is nowhere logical to take it that I can conceive of making me say, "Oh yeah, that's a cool, logical extension of the ideas developed in Scenes."

This. Scenes ended. The note it ended on, while slightly ambiguous, was final. It's much like trying to make a sequel to Inception.

lyfeternl

Quote from: Joshin U on July 25, 2013, 11:47:52 AM
Quote from: bosk1 on July 25, 2013, 11:41:27 AM
Quote from: DarkLord_Lalinc on July 25, 2013, 11:34:41 AM
A Metropolis Pt. III would feel like an Operation Mindcrime Pt. II.
Scenes was great.  But there is nowhere logical to take it that I can conceive of making me say, "Oh yeah, that's a cool, logical extension of the ideas developed in Scenes."

This. Scenes ended. The note it ended on, while slightly ambiguous, was final. It's much like trying to make a sequel to Inception.

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TheGreatPretender

Personally, I don't really care, but I would like them to write an album LIKE SFAM, in terms of structure. What I mean is, one of the things I liked about SFAM the most is that it had recurring musical themes throughout the album, and if they did another concept album, I would definitely like to hear more recurring themes within that album. Heck, maybe even build upon one of their other fan-favorite songs and create a sequel to that.

Kotowboy

Quote from: bosk1 on July 25, 2013, 11:13:24 AM
Quote from: Mosh on July 25, 2013, 11:05:19 AMI don't understand why anybody would want Metropolis III.

Pretty much this.  I love SFAM.  But there is zero reason to do a pt. III.

+ 1

Seeing as the original Metropolis was only called Part 1 as a prog piss-take and they band have repeatedly balked at and laughed off the idea of a third.


DarkLord_Lalinc

Quote from: bosk1 on July 25, 2013, 11:41:27 AM
Quote from: DarkLord_Lalinc on July 25, 2013, 11:34:41 AM
A Metropolis Pt. III would feel like an Operation Mindcrime Pt. II.

I thought about making that exact same analogy.  But the thing is, Mindcrime II could have been really good.  Both musically and storywise, there are some really cool ideas.  It's just that Tate was in it solely for the cash grab and didn't include his bandmates or listen to anyone else to take it the direction it should have gone.  The delayed revenge motif, and the theme of revenge being unsatisfying, and the resulting dispair are cool ideas that fit the Mindcrime story very well, if not for being ruined by other stupid ideas that did not belong there.

Scenes was great.  But there is nowhere logical to take it that I can conceive of making me say, "Oh yeah, that's a cool, logical extension of the ideas developed in Scenes."

Definitely, I agree with you wholeheartedly. Maybe to state my thoughts in a clearer way, Metropolis Pt. III would feel like a stuck DT, trying to desperately go back to some of the themes and concepts that made them a big band. As it has been said many, many times for many, many years, there is no musical/logical/conceptual/magical reason to make a Metropolis Pt. III album. The joke was told (Pt. 1), and the story was told (Pt. 2). Also, Dream Theater still strikes to me as a creative band that has still musical territory to discover without them having to go back to what made them great more than 10 years ago.

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Joshin U

Quote from: lyfeternl on July 25, 2013, 11:54:20 AM
Quote from: Joshin U on July 25, 2013, 11:47:52 AM
Quote from: bosk1 on July 25, 2013, 11:41:27 AM
Quote from: DarkLord_Lalinc on July 25, 2013, 11:34:41 AM
A Metropolis Pt. III would feel like an Operation Mindcrime Pt. II.
Scenes was great.  But there is nowhere logical to take it that I can conceive of making me say, "Oh yeah, that's a cool, logical extension of the ideas developed in Scenes."

This. Scenes ended. The note it ended on, while slightly ambiguous, was final. It's much like trying to make a sequel to Inception.

Dream within a Dream Theater... :neverusethis:


DarkLord_Lalinc


bosk1


Kotowboy


Sycsa

Quote from: Sycsa on July 25, 2013, 02:48:50 AM
I always thought a good way to continue the Metropolis saga would be to give the Hypnotherapist an intriguing backstory that would give him a reason to shoot Nicholas in the present life. Completing the circle yet again would just be the icing on the cake.

erik16


Mebert78

If "Metropolis Pt. III" happened to be an instrumental song, I wouldn't mind it.   :P

But from a lyrical standpoint, I don't think the story should be resurrected.
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Kotowboy


erik16


CodyWanKenobi

Honestly, if DT made Metropolis Pt III, and they made it better than (or as good) as SFAM, I would absolutely love to hear it. I don't know why any DT fan wouldn't.

A better question would be "would you want DT to take the risk of writing Metropolis Pt 3?".
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