Dream Theater self titled album discussion - [SPOILER FREE DISCUSSION ONLY]

[Lowdz]

I'd bet a nickel that Along For the Ride is the ballad, due to the name giving the impression as one, and it's supposed length.

I believe this is true. I expected it to be a bit of a rocker though from the title.

[dparrott]

Just realized: a 28 page booklet???  About half of the pages would be lyrics, say one page for credits, so that's around 14 pages of Syme art???  Maybe some studio photos???

[The Boomr]

I saw a few reviews saying Enigma Machine was the instrumental. Pretty sure they were posted here, even.

What? Where? Tell me.

If those reviews don't exist, though, I called it here, folks. Enigma Machine = instrumental.

https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=37931.0

Actually, about 109 people called it, starting July 9th. So yeah...

-Marc.

But.....but what you DON'T know, is that I used my psychic abilities of inception to plant that idea in all their heads.....

:instruception:

[The Boomr]

^^^^^^^^ That isn't even close to being a funny or cool portmanteau of inception. :/

[Kotowboy]

Just realized: a 28 page booklet???  About half of the pages would be lyrics, say one page for credits, so that's around 14 pages of Syme art???  Maybe some studio photos???

Stock images of studios and people recording in those studios.

[robwebster]

Just because he played it on acoustic in the video doesn't mean the song is like that. It looked like he was outlining the chords and making sure the lyrics worked with the vocal melody.

He was. There's video of him doing a similar thing with Forsaken on the SC documentary. But... we know the lyrics were for Smoothen, and we know there are acoustic guitars in Smoothen cos it says so on the chart, so it seems plausible that the bit he was playing could've ended up in the song.

More to the point, though, I wasn't saying it was a ballad - just that Lucien's conclusion of "The Looking Glass can't be a ballad because it apparently sounds like Rush" is flawed, given that our (admittedly tiny) window into the song suggests a softer song way more than it does a harder one. If we are going to scrutinise meaningless bits of information, we might as well scrutinise them properly.

[Dillster22]

Just realized: a 28 page booklet???  About half of the pages would be lyrics, say one page for credits, so that's around 14 pages of Syme art???  Maybe some studio photos???

Do we know if the special edition digipak includes the 28 pages from the jewel case or if it's just a regular sized booklet?

[Mosh]

More to the point, though, I wasn't saying it was a ballad - just that Lucien's conclusion of "The Looking Glass can't be a ballad because it apparently sounds like Rush" is flawed, given that our (admittedly tiny) window into the song suggests a softer song way more than it does a harder one. If we are going to scrutinise meaningless bits of information, we might as well scrutinise them properly.

Fair enough. I think a Rush influence on a softer more acoustic song would be less obvious. I'm expecting something like the first part of TBOT, which had Rush written all over it.

[YtseJamittaja]

Just realized: a 28 page booklet???  About half of the pages would be lyrics, say one page for credits, so that's around 14 pages of Syme art???  Maybe some studio photos???

SC has 22 pages and it is really thick booklet. This is gonna be HUGE.

[aprilethereal]

I'd bet a nickel that Along For the Ride is the ballad, due to the name giving the impression as one, and it's supposed length.

The only impression I get from that name is The Count Of Tuscany II

Do we know if the special edition digipak includes the 28 pages from the jewel case or if it's just a regular sized booklet?

Pretty sure it's the same booklet.

Just realized: a 28 page booklet???  About half of the pages would be lyrics, say one page for credits, so that's around 14 pages of Syme art???  Maybe some studio photos???

Stock images of studios and people recording in those studios.

[Bolsters]

More like stock images of studios and stock images of people poorly photoshopped into them.

[Viking of the Sagas]

Well, I hope they will include some background stories for the songs featured in the album.

[aprilethereal]

Well, I hope they will include some background stories for the songs featured in the album.

[liran95]

Well, I hope they will include some background stories for the songs featured in the album.

"So, the enemy inside.
JP: I had to take a hugh dump and I was in the middle of recording session. And everybody knows that recording studios don't have proper toilets. So I felt like my stomach could explode every single moment. OVER AND OVER AGAIN.
This is The Enemy Inside".

[puppyonacid]

Well, I hope they will include some background stories for the songs featured in the album.

"So, the enemy inside.
JP: I had to take a hugh dump and I was in the middle of recording session. And everybody knows that recording studios don't have proper toilets. So I felt like my stomach could explode every single moment. OVER AND OVER AGAIN.
This is The Enemy Inside".

The Enema Inside

[Nefarius]

I didn't like it very much on the first listen but I wouldn't have called it a shit song either.

Greetings...
Nef

[aprilethereal]

so you mean The Enemy Inside was Along For The Ride?

[emtee]

Noxon, when are you and everyone else allowed to post your reviews? Did RR give you a hard date?

[aprilethereal]

SOON...

[Zydar]

 

[Kotowboy]

Well, I hope they will include some background stories for the songs featured in the album.

"So, the enemy inside.
JP: I had to take a hugh dump and I was in the middle of recording session. And everybody knows that recording studios don't have proper toilets. So I felt like my stomach could explode every single moment. OVER AND OVER AGAIN.
This is The Enemy Inside".

I wish DT would dump Hugh...

[serrano]

 

[liran95]

Well, I hope they will include some background stories for the songs featured in the album.

"So, the enemy inside.
JP: I had to take a hugh dump and I was in the middle of recording session. And everybody knows that recording studios don't have proper toilets. So I felt like my stomach could explode every single moment. OVER AND OVER AGAIN.
This is The Enemy Inside".

I wish DT would dump Hugh...

Thanks to you I can cover up my typo

[dparrott]

Well, I hope they will include some background stories for the songs featured in the album.

"So, the enemy inside.
JP: I had to take a hugh dump and I was in the middle of recording session. And everybody knows that recording studios don't have proper toilets. So I felt like my stomach could explode every single moment. OVER AND OVER AGAIN.
This is The Enemy Inside".

I wish DT would hump Hugh...

They use him so much, I thought they were? 

[MrBoom_shack-a-lack]

 

[wolven74]

Noxon, when are you and everyone else allowed to post your reviews? Did RR give you a hard date?

SOON...

I would bet full album reviews probably won't go up until the end of the month at the earliest. More likely the first week of September. Just a guess though.

[noxon]

I've completed the review (it's 6235 words long), so it'll go live when one of these events happen:
1) album leaks onto the internet
2) other full album reviews start appearing
3) sept 9th.

[theseoafs]

1) album leaks onto the internet

This will never happen.

[aprilethereal]

1) album leaks onto the internet

This will never happen.

FTFY

[mikeyd23]

I've completed the review (it's 6235 words long), so it'll go live when one of these events happen:
1) album leaks onto the internet
2) other full album reviews start appearing
3) sept 9th.

Thanks for the update! Looking forward to reading it whenever it does hit!

[emtee]

Thanks Noxon. Looks like hard date of 9/9.

It won't change anything about how my listening experience will unfold but I do enjoy reading reviews where people have taken
the time to dig into things.

[Onno]

I've completed the review (it's 6235 words long), so it'll go live when one of these events happen:
1) album leaks onto the internet
2) other full album reviews start appearing
3) sept 9th.

Cool man. Looking forward to reading it!

[BlackInk]

Complicated situation. If it's before septmeber 9th and no other full reviews are released, then by posting your review here you would technically be hinting at the existance of album leaks and break the rules.

[RMGadelha]

He would be posting it at dtnorway anyway, you would have to find out yourself I would imagine.

[JRuivo]

A bit disappointed with the preorder packs  I would never give 99 bucks just for the awesome extra content, that's way too much.. they should have put the documentary at least on the cd + dvd version...