The flaws in octavarium's album art.

[crazyaga]

[VincentMDO]

Here we go. 

[Mindflux]

Totally. All that grass is clone stamped too. 

[BlobVanDam]

This is new.



Said 2005.

[Lucien]

This is what we do at DTF

[Zook]

That's not even the final artwork.

[Mindflux]

One has a Majesty logo! All the balls aren't the same 

[Zook]

This is new.



Said 2005.

Wasn't this picture made in 2005 anyway? I think crazyaga is having a nostalgia moment.

[Sycsa]

Probably the ugliest DT album cover of all. I'd rather look at the hairy armpit of the WDADU guy.

[crazyaga]

One has a Majesty logo! All the balls aren't the same 

Yes they are. 1st and 3rd ball are mirror images, and the 4th ball is the same as the 1st ball just with a DT logo.

[Mindflux]

Yes they are. 1st and 3rd ball are mirror images, and the 4th ball is the same as the 1st ball just with a DT logo.

[yorost]

I find it to be an eyesore because of the terrible geometry.

[Dublagent66]

Wow, someone has the time to even care about that?   

[RoeDent]

I'm more concerned about the "tin can and string" artwork inside the booklet. I would've put the speaking boy on the first page, and the listening boy on the last page. So the first boy is speaking the words of the album to the last boy.

[BlobVanDam]

I'm more concerned about the "tin can and string" artwork inside the booklet. I would've put the speaking boy on the first page, and the listening boy on the last page. So the first boy is speaking the words of the album to the last boy.

But it's correct as is, to fit the cyclical theme of the album. Having the boy on the first page talking to the boy on the last page would be too finite.

[yorost]

Wow, someone has the time to even care about that?   

To me the geometry sticks out plain as day. It just is unpleasant to look at, whether or not I care about the artwork.

[Big Hath]

I'm more concerned about the "tin can and string" artwork inside the booklet. I would've put the speaking boy on the first page, and the listening boy on the last page. So the first boy is speaking the words of the album to the last boy.

But it's correct as is, to fit the cyclical theme of the album. Having the boy on the first page talking to the boy on the last page would be too finite.

the cord from the first can should go into the back of the head of the next boy who in turn is speaking into a can . . .

[Sir GuitarCozmo]

More old Octavarium album cover news:  If you look at the entire jacket laid out straight, you'll notice that it's a keyboard:



The balls are the white keys, the birds are the black keys.  The ball on each end is "F".

[BlobVanDam]

Is anyone else have PTSD flashbacks to the Octavarium sub-forum right now?

[robwebster]

Is anyone else have PTSD flashbacks to the Octavarium sub-forum right now?

I still hear the voices.

The incorrect angle was much-discussed. Over-discussed. No problem discussing it again - lots of new people here, why wouldn't we! - but Setlist Scotty even corrected it on the 20th anniversary poster.

The first draft, Hugh Syme's patented black bar didn't quite stretch across the bottom, and the strings didn't have much texture (or didn't have hooks, or something?) and they went back and fixed it.

Despite all this... I think Octavarium's still one of the most striking covers in the DT discography.

[Big Hath]

is that John Myung?

[Mindflux]

is that John Myung?

no.

[TheAtliator]

Wow, I've never noticed that the geometry of the first and last balls are off. Now I can't un-see that.. damnit  thanks a lot guys lol

One would think they would have taken the two seconds and looked up the geometric equation and got it right!

[BlobVanDam]

Is anyone else have PTSD flashbacks to the Octavarium sub-forum right now?

I still hear the voices.

The incorrect angle was much-discussed. Over-discussed. No problem discussing it again - lots of new people here, why wouldn't we! - but Setlist Scotty even corrected it on the 20th anniversary poster.

The first draft, Hugh Syme's patented black bar didn't quite stretch across the bottom, and the strings didn't have much texture (or didn't have hooks, or something?) and they went back and fixed it.

Despite all this... I think Octavarium's still one of the most striking covers in the DT discography.

The draft didn't have the loops. Even the final one didn't have a textured rope though.
And I agree it's one of DT's better covers, and one of Hugh Syme's better works for the band, including the booklet artwork.

[robwebster]

Especially the booklet art!

Hugh Syme has a funny habit of coupling slightly dodgy cover art with great stuff inside the booklet. I think Octavarium's a really cool cover, geometry or no, but the booklet art is still utterly kickin'.

[Sir GuitarCozmo]

The fact that anybody took the time to analyze geometric anomalies in a prog band's album cover SHOULDN'T surprise me, but it still kinda does.

[robwebster]

The fact that anybody took the time to analyze geometric anomalies in a prog band's album cover SHOULDN'T surprise me, but it still kinda does.

Well, when you put it that way, sure! But that's mostly cos you described it as "analysing a geometric anomaly." What they've really done, is they've noticed a picture looks squiffy. A picture that was the poster for two years of DT's career! Course we noticed!

[BlobVanDam]

The fact that anybody took the time to analyze geometric anomalies in a prog band's album cover SHOULDN'T surprise me, but it still kinda does.

Well, when you put it that way, sure! But that's mostly cos you described it as "analysing a geometric anomaly." What they've really done, is they've noticed a picture looks squiffy. A picture that was the poster for two years of DT's career! Course we noticed!

Just like we noticed that the band's font on ADTOE is squished vertically to 84% of the correct height. RAGE!

[Sir GuitarCozmo]

Well, yeah, but when there are references to geometry and angles and it being "flawed", my mind goes to "Hmph.  That's funny.  Never would've noticed.  All the while, I was over here headbanging to Root of All Evil". 

[robwebster]

The fact that anybody took the time to analyze geometric anomalies in a prog band's album cover SHOULDN'T surprise me, but it still kinda does.

Well, when you put it that way, sure! But that's mostly cos you described it as "analysing a geometric anomaly." What they've really done, is they've noticed a picture looks squiffy. A picture that was the poster for two years of DT's career! Course we noticed!

Just like we noticed that the band's font on ADTOE is squished vertically to 84% of the correct height. RAGE!

On which note, I'm fine with the stock photography, the black bars, and the constant barrage of overly literal visual puns, but I will never understand why Hugh Syme is so hell-bent on squashing that logo up, nowadays.

[BlobVanDam]

The fact that anybody took the time to analyze geometric anomalies in a prog band's album cover SHOULDN'T surprise me, but it still kinda does.

Well, when you put it that way, sure! But that's mostly cos you described it as "analysing a geometric anomaly." What they've really done, is they've noticed a picture looks squiffy. A picture that was the poster for two years of DT's career! Course we noticed!

Just like we noticed that the band's font on ADTOE is squished vertically to 84% of the correct height. RAGE!

On which note, I'm fine with the stock photography, the black bars, and the constant barrage of overly literal visual puns, but I will never understand why Hugh Syme is so hell-bent on squashing that logo up, nowadays.

And I promise I will rage to important people if it happens on DT12.

[Sir GuitarCozmo]

Guy #1: Dude, listen to this album, it absolutely fucking rocks.

Guy #2: JESUS CHRIST MAN, WHAT THE FUCK IS WRONG WITH THE ALBUM COVER, THE BALLS AREN'T ANGLED RIGHT!!

Guy #1:

[Mindflux]

Guy #1: Dude, listen to this album, it absolutely fucking rocks.

Guy #2: JESUS CHRIST MAN, WHAT THE FUCK IS WRONG WITH THE ALBUM COVER, THE BALLS AREN'T ANGLED RIGHT!!

Guy #1: Why are you thinking about balls?

Guy #2:

FTFY

[robwebster]

Guy #1: Dude, listen to this album, it absolutely fucking rocks.

Guy #2: JESUS CHRIST MAN, WHAT THE FUCK IS WRONG WITH THE ALBUM COVER, THE BALLS AREN'T ANGLED RIGHT!!

Guy #1:

You're right, that is completely barmy.

And if it ever happens, I will inform the town elders at once.

[Sir GuitarCozmo]

Guy #1: Dude, listen to this album, it absolutely fucking rocks.

Guy #2: JESUS CHRIST MAN, WHAT THE FUCK IS WRONG WITH THE ALBUM COVER, THE BALLS AREN'T ANGLED RIGHT!!

Guy #1: Why are you thinking about balls?

Guy #2:

FTFY