DT12 v. WDAWAIISOIT8V&CSTOE pt. XII

[wasteland]

You've found a way to channel into my mind?

HOW YOU DO THIS?

She's being doing that to me since last August! It's crystal clear that she has super powers.

Either that, or you just have the mind of a teenage girl.

Considering that she entered the minds of two men in the twenties, it's more likely the other way round! 

[Sketchy]

Theories of extinction no. 68: Morawintersoul's telepathic tendencies scared all the mammoths.

Poor mammoths.

[wasteland]

Theories of extinction no. 68: Morawintersoul's telepathic tendencies scared all the mammoths.

Poor mammoths.

What about saber-toothed tigers? Or dodos?

[Sketchy]

Fuck 'em. You can't use dodo's to explain automatic transmission.

[MoraWintersoul]

Considering that she entered the minds of two men in the twenties, it's more likely the other way round! 

I'm a 20-year-old progger dude now?

Ummmmm.

LOOK AT THAT PAIR OF TITS! IN A FATES WARNING SHIRT!
And now I'm hungry, I need a sandwich.

[Sketchy]

Well, to be fair, I'm hardly a good example of "20 something male" mindset.

[wasteland]

Well, to be fair, I'm hardly a good example of "20 something male" mindset.

Maybe we should revert to the topic. 

[MoraWintersoul]

Well, to be fair, I'm hardly a good example of "20 something male" mindset.

Marco isn't either, so maybe that's the reason why. WE HAVE NO EXPLANATION FOR THIS PHENOMENON, EVERYONE GO HOME.

Also, that 12th DT album better be good

[Sketchy]

Why can I never find that gif my friend made of "this thread belongs to Ivan now" when I want it?

But yes, it should be an epic album.

[GasparXR]

Hahaha, you guys. 

[Sketchy]

That image is around somewhere. I will find it. maybe.

[wasteland]

That image is around somewhere. I will find it. maybe.

Is it from the green hair series?

[GasparXR]

Also, that 12th DT album better be good

DO NOT QUESTION THE GODS!

Carry on.

[Sketchy]

That image is around somewhere. I will find it. maybe.

Is it from the green hair series?

That's the one!

[TheOutlawXanadu]

To recap what we know so far:

- The band kind of started writing for the album on tour through jamming and such

- John Petrucci, like last time, also has some demos of material he wrote by himself that might be used

- The band will enter the studio in January

Am I missing anything?

[robwebster]

Mangini's writing. That's a thing.

[Scorpion]

To recap what we know so far:

- The band kind of started writing for the album on tour through jamming and such

- John Petrucci, like last time, also has some demos of material he wrote by himself that might be used

- The band will enter the studio in January

Am I missing anything?

Yeah, that it's going to be awesome.

Seriously: Mangini's contributing.

EDIT: Sneaky Mr. Webster.

[Kotowboy]

If Mangini is writing then this could be their most technical album.

The only time they'll play in 4/4 is when they're tuning !

[The Presence of Frenemies]

Do we actually have any idea what Mangini writing might mean? First off, what roles can he play? I know when Portnoy left, there was a lot of "Well, Portnoy did a lot, but it was mostly just his parts and some vocal melodies"--does Mangini have the same limitations? And what style does he prefer? Just because he can be really technical doesn't mean he will be--JP can be really technical, but he wrote BTS, for instance. I know Mangini's pre-DT work was mostly on a session/intermittent basis, so is there really much of a body of work out there that someone can point to and say "Here's what he can do?"

I'm certainly very excited that he'll be contributing, as I think DT functions best when everybody contributes and is inspired, but the information doesn't really push me in a concrete direction yet.

[darkshade]

Do we actually have any idea what Mangini writing might mean? First off, what roles can he play? I know when Portnoy left, there was a lot of "Well, Portnoy did a lot, but it was mostly just his parts and some vocal melodies"--does Mangini have the same limitations? And what style does he prefer? Just because he can be really technical doesn't mean he will be--JP can be really technical, but he wrote BTS, for instance. I know Mangini's pre-DT work was mostly on a session/intermittent basis, so is there really much of a body of work out there that someone can point to and say "Here's what he can do?"

I'm certainly very excited that he'll be contributing, as I think DT functions best when everybody contributes and is inspired, but the information doesn't really push me in a concrete direction yet.

Based on Youtube videos from the band backstage, or Mangini in a hotel room, he can come up with some crazy rhythms, counterpoint, etc. I don't know how much he could contribute composition-wise, but I think he will bring rhythms that could cause the music to be very technical.

[robwebster]

And those rhythms will be created as part of the dialogue, rather than as response to a previous dialogue. The music can be shaped around the rhythms - his choices can help guide the songs, rather than following a blueprint that's already set in stone. That's huge.

[Ħ]

I'd actually like to see some callbacks to earlier albums. Nothing too obvious like TSF. But like how These Walls's solo calls back to Take Away My Pain's solo.

[philmcson]

And those rhythms will be created as part of the dialogue, rather than as response to a previous dialogue. The music can be shaped around the rhythms - his choices can help guide the songs, rather than following a blueprint that's already set in stone. That's huge.

True. Including a drummer in writing session (as opposed to just bombing him with finished parts and expecting to create rigid drum sounds) may (dramatically) change the feel of a song. So, I'm really curious to see what this will produce and sure it'll be better than ADTOE

[MoraWintersoul]

True. Including a drummer in writing session (as opposed to just bombing him with finished parts and expecting to create rigid drum sounds) may (dramatically) change the feel of a song.

So you could say this turn of events is quite... dramatic.

Yesterday I used this as an argument: the world will not end because DT12 is sure to come out next year.

[philmcson]

True. Including a drummer in writing session (as opposed to just bombing him with finished parts and expecting to create rigid drum sounds) may (dramatically) change the feel of a song.

So you could say this turn of events is quite... dramatic.

Yesterday I used this as an argument: the world will not end because DT12 is sure to come out next year.

Yes, and I'm sure some of us won't be able to bear the dramatic grooves on the next album 

That's true, whatever is heading our way will be forced to round our Mother Earth as it, by approaching, becomes aware of the fact that the MM-era of DT has yet to produce its finest! 

[wasteland]

Yesterday I used this as an argument: the world will not end because DT12 is sure to come out next year.

And you could tell I was convinced on the spot! 

And those rhythms will be created as part of the dialogue, rather than as response to a previous dialogue. The music can be shaped around the rhythms - his choices can help guide the songs, rather than following a blueprint that's already set in stone. That's huge.

This, but still the main songwriters will stay the same. And I hope (but I am confident) that the studio environment will be still quiet enough to allow JM and James to feel at ease and welcomed to contribute.

[GasparXR]

I'd actually like to see some callbacks to earlier albums. Nothing too obvious like TSF. But like how These Walls's solo calls back to Take Away My Pain's solo.

Whoa. I never noticed that. Was that really intentional?

[Ħ]

I'd actually like to see some callbacks to earlier albums. Nothing too obvious like TSF. But like how These Walls's solo calls back to Take Away My Pain's solo.

Whoa. I never noticed that. Was that really intentional?

It must be.

[Polis]

Am I the only one here who likes the prog part more than the metal part of DT...? *looks around and cowers*

[?]

Yesterday I used this as an argument: the world will not end because DT12 is sure to come out next year.

JP said that they signed with Roadrunner for three more albums, so I think there'll be no apocalypse until the next three DT albums are out!

[Zydar]

Yesterday I used this as an argument: the world will not end because DT12 is sure to come out next year.

JP said that they signed with Roadrunner for three more albums, so I think there'll be no apocalypse until the next three DT albums are out!

As long as DT keep re-signing the contract, the world is safe

[SomeoneLikeHim]

Yesterday I used this as an argument: the world will not end because DT12 is sure to come out next year.

JP said that they signed with Roadrunner for three more albums, so I think there'll be no apocalypse until the next three DT albums are out!

As long as DT keep re-signing the contract, the world is safe

The world will end when John Myung says it will.

[wasteland]

If so we are fucking safe for eternity! 

[mike099]

'If so we are fucking safe for eternity'   

Burn!  No pun intended.

Just noticed a few posts above, Polis is asking about the progressive vs. metal.  My overall favorite recording by DT is SFAM.  So much balance with this recording. 

[Madman Shepherd]

Do we actually have any idea what Mangini writing might mean? First off, what roles can he play?

I asked Mike about this about a year ago at a drum clinic and I broke it down in detail in some post on this forum.  I dont have time to find it now but he essentially said he will still finding his groove with the band so he was mostly taking a back seat but as they were jamming at soundcheck and trying out new stuff, they might ask him to play a certain beat or he might say, "well what about this?" but for the most part he would just sit back and let them do their thing and only interject occasionally. 

In typically Mangini style, he was overexcited while talking about it, saying that John Myung was FLOURISHING (something my gf immitates quite often) and if James was backstage and heard something he liked, he would come out to check it out.

All in all, it really sounds like they are functioning as a band with Jordan and JP taking the reins as usual, but JM and JLB adding input and MM slowly becoming a bigger part of the process.