Q: How developed is the new album?
So far it’s not very developed at all. We’re scheduled to go into the studio in January. Being a month out or so, we have a handful of ideas we compiled while we were on the road, and we have those archived. And since I got back from the road, and have had some off time, I’ve been spending more time compiling, writing and demoing some things. There are a bunch of seeds, a bunch of ideas, and a definite direction. Everybody is hired, the studio is locked, and the vision for the type of album has been talked about and secured. The only thing that’s not there is the main material, but we’ll go in January full force.
Q: You mentioned you have the direction figured out. Is that anything you’re prepared to discuss?
A: Not yet, it’s too early. Before we go into an album, I like to sit down and think about what we’re going to do instead of just going in and winging it. I’ll usually come up with some sort of proposal, and we’ll talk about it a bunch of times over the course of the month, and get everyone on the same page. This way, people can start to think about musical ideas in that direction, and get in the right headspace. For me, it makes everything so much clearer when you’re in the studio. If you have a direction and a goal, you get better results.
Q: Will Mike Mangini be more involved in this record?
Yes. For the last album, he wasn’t involved in the writing. We wrote it without him for 2 ½ months, and he came in and tracked. This time, he’s going to be in from day one, so we’ll write together as a full group. The tapes that we have from doing that a bit on the road have been incredible. At soundcheck, if I’d come in with an idea and we’d start jamming on it, he was really quick and had great creative concepts. I think it’s going to be a very cool experience.
Q: Any time frame as to when the album will come out?
I’m not sure. We’re on the same schedule as A Dramatic Turn of Events, meaning that we entered the studio at the same time to work on that album, and it didn’t come out until September. It’s too early to tell if it will follow the same release schedule. By the time we’re done, writing, recording, mixing, mastering, it could be May-ish, and then we hit the Summer festival season in Europe around July or so, it’ll probably be a similar schedule.
Do we actually have any idea what Mangini writing might mean? First off, what roles can he play?
I asked Mike about this about a year ago at a drum clinic and I broke it down in detail in some post on this forum. I dont have time to find it now but he essentially said he will still finding his groove with the band so he was mostly taking a back seat but as they were jamming at soundcheck and trying out new stuff, they might ask him to play a certain beat or he might say, "well what about this?" but for the most part he would just sit back and let them do their thing and only interject occasionally.
In typically Mangini style, he was overexcited while talking about it, saying that John Myung was FLOURISHING (something my gf immitates quite often) and if James was backstage and heard something he liked, he would come out to check it out.
All in all, it really sounds like they are functioning as a band with Jordan and JP taking the reins as usual, but JM and JLB adding input and MM slowly becoming a bigger part of the process.
Concept album, calling it now.
My reading of the interview is no doubt affected by my hope for another concept album, but 'definite direction' and 'the vision for the type of album' just suggests it to me. And I'm sure JLB has said relatively recently that he'd be open to the idea.
It's about time, in my opinion. And if they're following the WWRD rule, then it has to be done!
I'm biased because SFAM is my favourite DT album, but I'd love to hear another record with recurring themes and other conceptual elements. And nothing's too proggy for me! :lolAll of this :lol
Hoping for more dynamic arrangements, wider vocal range, and drums mixed higher. And the return of one mega-epic. And I hope the positive trend of Jordan's contributions continues--I feel like he's done his best work on the last two albums. But ultimately, whatever inspires the guys to make the best music they can is good with me.
I'd really adore if the new album had a bit more heavy metal. not like TOT but hm, a bit of the ANTR edge in one or two songs would be nice. Not saying that ADTOE wasn't good, I still listen to it, I'd just like the new release to be a bit more heavy. Like, heavy metal Metropolis pt.3 ;D :o
I'd really adore if the new album had a bit more heavy metal. not like TOT but hm, a bit of the ANTR edge in one or two songs would be nice. Not saying that ADTOE wasn't good, I still listen to it, I'd just like the new release to be a bit more heavy. Like, heavy metal Metropolis pt.3 ;D :o
One of the perks of Portnoy's departure was that they left behind a certain type of heaviness, which allowed them to move into a different, more interesting direction. I really doubt they would be returning to the sound of the last few Portnoy albums and although ITPoE and Nightmare are among my favorites, I don't want them to. My wishes: make it even more proggy("nothing's too proggy for me!"), explore the technicality of Mr. Mangini to the fullest, continue giving Jordan more space, improve the vocals(less dragging choruses) and (long shot, but) no acoustic, cheesy ballads.
I'd really adore if the new album had a bit more heavy metal. not like TOT but hm, a bit of the ANTR edge in one or two songs would be nice. Not saying that ADTOE wasn't good, I still listen to it, I'd just like the new release to be a bit more heavy. Like, heavy metal Metropolis pt.3 ;D :o
One of the perks of Portnoy's departure was that they left behind a certain type of heaviness, which allowed them to move into a different, more interesting direction. I really doubt they would be returning to the sound of the last few Portnoy albums and although ITPoE and Nightmare are among my favorites, I don't want them to. My wishes: make it even more proggy("nothing's too proggy for me!"), explore the technicality of Mr. Mangini to the fullest, continue giving Jordan more space, improve the vocals(less dragging choruses) and (long shot, but) no acoustic, cheesy ballads.
I don't consider that a perk. For me the heavy stuff on ADTOE feels more sterile and less interesting than the heavy stuff on the last few albums.
I don't really mind what balance they strike, as long as it's interesting. ADTOE didn't do that for me, despite being a much more balanced and diverse album than its predecessors.
JUST MY OPINION GUYS. DON'T JUDGE ME.
Hoping for more dynamic arrangements, wider vocal range, and drums mixed higher. And the return of one mega-epic. And I hope the positive trend of Jordan's contributions continues--I feel like he's done his best work on the last two albums. But ultimately, whatever inspires the guys to make the best music they can is good with me.
All of this except for the mega epic. Albums tend to work much better as a whole composition when there are no huge song in the lot sucking all the energies and the attention from the others. Keep it short-to-middle sized, in the 10-15 range. :tup
no acoustic, cheesy ballads.
I don't consider that a perk. For me the heavy stuff on ADTOE feels more sterile and less interesting than the heavy stuff on the last few albums.
I don't really mind what balance they strike, as long as it's interesting. ADTOE didn't do that for me, despite being a much more balanced and diverse album than its predecessors.
JUST MY OPINION GUYS. DON'T JUDGE ME.
Although I know how awesome it was to headbang to BITS in the first row - a heavy masterpiece in its own way :tup
we need a making of!!This, please.
My reading of the interview is no doubt affected by my hope for another concept album, but 'definite direction' and 'the vision for the type of album' just suggests it to me. And I'm sure JLB has said relatively recently that he'd be open to the idea.Didn't he say exactly the same type of stuff about ADTOE though? And he said he usually does this, yet only one of their albums has been a full blown concept album.
My reading of the interview is no doubt affected by my hope for another concept album, but 'definite direction' and 'the vision for the type of album' just suggests it to me. And I'm sure JLB has said relatively recently that he'd be open to the idea.Didn't he say exactly the same type of stuff about ADTOE though? And he said he usually does this, yet only one of their albums has been a full blown concept album.
I hope for a big, majestic ballad. Think Space-Dye Vest, Another Day, I Walk Beside You, Misunderstood (all of these might not count as ballads, but I think you guys get my point)
And the return of one mega-epic.I feel like I should want this too, but when I think about it, the longest song on my 3 favourite DT albums (Images, ToT, ADTOE) is ITNOG and that's not even 15 minutes long.
To be honest, I'm not interested in another concept album. It'd be ok if the album had some recurring lyrical themes in different songs, but I think the idea of one huge story running throughout the album is overdone. And if they did a story-based concept album, it would be compared to Scenes all the time and probably overshadowed by it, with comments like "the new album is good, but not as good as Scenes".
When it comes to song lengths, I hope the new album will be closer to the 90s albums and ADTOE than the last few albums with MP. I prefer albums with more concise songs and maybe one or two 10-13 minute epics. I love ACOS, but I think DT's attempts at huge epics on the later releases haven't been nearly as successful - most of these overlong songs have parts that could've been cut away.
I think we won't be hearing any mega-heavy stuff; Jordan has said he's not a huge fan of that kind of music and in many interviews James and JP were saying they were really happy with the balanced style of ADTOE.
All this probably makes people think I'm not a prog or metal fan! :lol I just want a balanced album with a good mixture of heaviness, complexity, atmosphere and simplicity.
No words - instrumental.
No words - instrumental.
Fix'd
:neverusethis:
My reading of the interview is no doubt affected by my hope for another concept album, but 'definite direction' and 'the vision for the type of album' just suggests it to me. And I'm sure JLB has said relatively recently that he'd be open to the idea.Didn't he say exactly the same type of stuff about ADTOE though? And he said he usually does this, yet only one of their albums has been a full blown concept album.
I'd love to see a thematic album, in the sense of it not telling a specific story (which is a concept album), but one that touches on similar lyrical themes and has recurring musical themes as well. In other words, kind of like 6DOIT Disc 2, only more cohesive and better flowing.
better hihats, on ADTOE most hihat sounds are in between open and closed
I'm sure we'll get more crazy sections like the one in Outcry and LNF "tickle" section. Mangini is incredibly knowledgeable and talented, and this time he'll have more input since many ideas came at soundcheck during the tour. I just hope he has better sound this time, and better hihats, on ADTOE most hihat sounds are in between open and closed, i missed the tight hihat work of MP, but other than that, holy shit i'm expecting so much greatness from him.
This needs to be said at least once during every pre-album hype rush.
Chapman Stick! PLXZPLZPLZPLZPLZPZLPLZ
sometimes the sound of a partially open hihat works.
JLB immitating various arctic mammals throughout.
JLB immitating various arctic mammals throughout.
It will be in the form of an instrumental except with those lyricless imitations throughout, and will be called The Polar Express.
I'm calling it right now.
" Dodecavarium ".
:hat I'm tellin ya.
• No epics. They've done that. A Change of Seasons was a very significant song, all the moreso because it was unique. Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence doesn't fit the epic mould so much, but it was different, and new, and special in a completely different way. Octavarium was significant because it was the first long track in a long, long while - but now with In the Presence of Enemies and The Count of Tuscany, it's... overdone. It becomes mundane. It's not, "This is the long one, it's lightning in a bottle." It's "This is the long one, it doesn't fit well on mix CDs." If they've got something to say that needs thirty minutes, great, but I think it's gone the other way round, a bit, lately. Good things, when short, are twice as good. I'd love to hear the ten minute cut of In the Presence of Enemies. Heck, I think the ten minute cut of In the Presence of Enemies might be called "In the Presence of Enemies: Pt. 1."
• Diversity. Lots of it. ADToE was very cool, but a lot of songs had similar vibes to them. Bridges in the Sky was perfect, and while Outcry and Lost Not Forgotten are pretty good too, I find BitS slightly overshadows them. I like the links, and I like the consistency, but come on. We've warmed up, now let's see what this new band's capable of. Beneath the Surface was good - very new, very original. Let's hear more of that. And a bit more of Jordan Rudess's electronic stuff would be good. Not loads, just a taste. I don't mean they have to exaggerate - make the heavy song ultra-heavy, and the electronic song ultra-electric, just get lots of distinct characters in there. Not just as simple "heavy," "light," "sombre," "rocky," "electronic." How about something a bit baroque, medieval? Or a spot of wild-west? Maybe something that - god forbid, saying this to a prog rock band - grooves? They kind of did this on Systematic Chaos, it's got that wonderful schlocky horror kind of feel. More of that.
• No concepts. It's almost a cliche. Again, if they've got a brilliant concept that they really want to commit to the annals of rock history - great. But most rock concepts aren't nearly interesting enough that I'd want thirteen separate tracks dedicated to them, and they always have to jump through all these hoops like the obligatory rock ballad where the hero seeks his soul, and there's all these crap expository lyrics like "I went down to Jonah's farm / I smashed apart the fire alarm" which you can't sing without feeling a little stupid because who the hell is Jonah, and it's like - yes! We get it, The Wall was great! As was Operation: Mindcrime, and Scenes from a Memory. But instead of copying the format of those albums, why not use that time to tell us twelve stories?
Don't get me wrong, a concept's good when done well, when the music really whisks you away on a journey, when it's almost more of a soundtrack than an album, when the music is as much a part of the story as the lyrics if not moreso... but that's so rare, and they've already sort of done it once. Most of the time it's just some cool words set to some cool music, with a few recurring motifs to remind you that it's all basically connected. It's usually a gimmick.
I'm calling it right now.
" Dodecavarium ".
:hat I'm tellin ya.
Gotta be pentavarium, with 5 and 8 and all that.
Further, I'd say that one last big one would hold its own special meaning as far as it being post-MP and all--really show what the "new" DT can muster in that department. After all, everyone hailed ADTOE as this renewed inspiration--why not see how that translates to epics?That's fair. There are plenty of brilliant reasons to write big long songs. Big is cinematic. Takes you on a proper journey, and if you don't like that... why are you listening to Dream Theater?! Musical journeys are kind of their thing. Plus, even if I do think twenty minute long songs are getting old - which I do! - the eight minuters must be even older, and the idea of a three minute song older still.
I hope we get more stuff a la Far From Heaven. Snap out of it snapple! :metal
Your posts is the ultimate expression of my mind on this matter. Bravo, Sir.:tup More things that I want or don't want:
I could see this kind of thing working and it would be a much better idea than a full-blown concept album with a story.I'd love to see a thematic album, in the sense of it not telling a specific story (which is a concept album), but one that touches on similar lyrical themes and has recurring musical themes as well. In other words, kind of like 6DOIT Disc 2, only more cohesive and better flowing.
Yes, that's a good compromise. Stronger connections than those going on in ADTOE and BCSL, but not a story-based concept. That's what I would appreciate :)
I'd like something more proggy with a slight jazz influence. Not a full blown jazz or fusion album but some jazzy moments would be nice. Also, more piano and some Hammond.
Octavarium was a tribute to what came before, the song's practically a history of progressive rock, that kind of navel-gazing was absolutely perfect for the story it was telling, and A Change of Seasons didn't really have the same identity-crisis thing in the same way as the others. Maybe that's why they get the lion's share of the positive attention on here.I think you've quite nailed it.
Further, I'd say that one last big one would hold its own special meaning as far as it being post-MP and all--really show what the "new" DT can muster in that department. After all, everyone hailed ADTOE as this renewed inspiration--why not see how that translates to epics?That's fair. There are plenty of brilliant reasons to write big long songs. Big is cinematic. Takes you on a proper journey, and if you don't like that... why are you listening to Dream Theater?! Musical journeys are kind of their thing. Plus, even if I do think twenty minute long songs are getting old - which I do! - the eight minuters must be even older, and the idea of a three minute song older still.
But I think that diversity is almost part of the problem. While I'd absolutely champion lots and lots of different sounds, I think I like each song to have its own character, and past a certain length, they threaten to develop split personalities. Maybe it's that that I'm tired of. It's not epics, or twenty-minuters, or anything to do with their size, it's more... kitchen sink songs. I definitely think In the Presence of Enemies would be better split into multiple songs. All right, more multiple songs. Cracking music, but possibly a little cluttered. It does Part 1 a world of good.
You're absolutely right, though, inasmuch as if they are going to do another epic - and I'm sure they'll fit in another one or two before the decade's up - now's a pretty good time. Lots to prove. So, yes. Go on, then. You've convinced me. Bring on a long song. But... a different breed of long song. Redefine the epic. They don't all have to be Supper's Ready. Octavarium was a tribute to what came before, the song's practically a history of progressive rock, that kind of navel-gazing was absolutely perfect for the story it was telling, and A Change of Seasons didn't really have the same identity-crisis thing in the same way as the others. Maybe that's why they get the lion's share of the positive attention on here.
I'm thinking out loud, now. Someone stop me!
No requests from me. Just thankfulness that these amazing musicians are still churning out incredible albums.
WWRD?I have heard that DT used to have an 'evening with DT' tour. If Rush can play 3 hours at their age, then DT should be able to do it. Many folks including myself would pay for a ticket to see an 'evening with DT' again. Just a newbies opinion
I think they would take their new labelmates out on tour with them. Maybe as a very special guest meaning DT will get at least 80-90 minutes or more to play.
I don't even like Rush that much, although in the past few years I have gained a greater appreciation for them, but a tour like that would be epic.
WWRD?I have heard that DT used to have an 'evening with DT' tour. If Rush can play 3 hours at their age, then DT should be able to do it. Many folks including myself would pay for a ticket to see an 'evening with DT' again. Just a newbies opinion
I think they would take their new labelmates out on tour with them. Maybe as a very special guest meaning DT will get at least 80-90 minutes or more to play.
I don't even like Rush that much, although in the past few years I have gained a greater appreciation for them, but a tour like that would be epic.
What I meant is that if they tour with Rush, Rush would obviously be the headliner but since Dream Theater is a pretty big name in and of themselves, I would hope that they would be given more than just the standard 45-60 minute opening slot. I don't know if they would coheadline though.
Yeah they used to do those shows but for the most part have said that they were far too exhausting and prefer not to, although they haven't ruled it out.More recently, they've said it's probably going to happen, but the "when" is the question.
What I meant is that if they tour with Rush, Rush would obviously be the headliner but since Dream Theater is a pretty big name in and of themselves, I would hope that they would be given more than just the standard 45-60 minute opening slot. I don't know if they would coheadline though.
With all due respect, are you kidding? DT would have zero chance in hell at co-headlining a tour with a band as big as Rush. DT is not that big of a name, especially compared to Rush, who are one of the few bands born out of the 70s who can still draw well on their own.
What I meant is that if they tour with Rush, Rush would obviously be the headliner but since Dream Theater is a pretty big name in and of themselves, I would hope that they would be given more than just the standard 45-60 minute opening slot.
Besides, it will never happen.
a) Rush hasn't had an opening act since 1994.
b) Rush doesn't need or want an opening act.
c) Rush has never done a co-headlining tour.
It's been long enough!Have you listened to ADTOE? ;)
Myung HAS to be re-introduced into the band.
It's been long enough!Have you listened to ADTOE? ;)
Myung HAS to be re-introduced into the band.
-I want acoustic guitars strumming away a la Solitary Shell.
-I want very proggy and experimental, but not overdone/wanky.
-I want diversity! This means no more than 1 (maybe 2) ballads, a solid mini epic (Trial of Tears Part 2?), and some really fun heavy tracks.
-I want more lyrical contributions from both JLB and JMX.
-I want to hear Mangini truly unleashed.
-And more than anything, even if I don't get any of the above... I want DT12!
More cowbell!
Turn the amps up to 11!
More cowbell!
Turn the amps up to 11!
Suck and Gay levels to 0!!!
CLASSY. :hatIt's been long enough!Have you listened to ADTOE? ;)
Myung HAS to be re-introduced into the band.
Have you listened to BMUBMD? :biggrin:
More Starbucks!More cowbell!
Turn the amps up to 11!
Suck and Gay levels to 0!!!
No inspiration corner!
What about a concept album based on a video game? Like Zelda, or Metroid, or Mario? That would be awesome!
What about a concept album based on a video game? Like Zelda, or Metroid, or Mario? That would be awesome!
Very nice idea. Zelda! :metal A concept album in general would be really nice. DT needs another one in their career. Isn't the time just right?
:rollinWhat about a concept album based on a video game? Like Zelda, or Metroid, or Mario? That would be awesome!
Very nice idea. Zelda! :metal A concept album in general would be really nice. DT needs another one in their career. Isn't the time just right?
I could see a concept album about the Mario games. The entire keyboard arrangement for the album could be samples of Mario saying things like:
"It's-a me, Mario!"
"Here we go!"
"okey-dokey"
"Aw yeah"
And of course, the famous sound of a Super Mushroom being eaten.
Musical Themes from every Mario game could be used.
It's been long enough!Have you listened to ADTOE? ;)
Myung HAS to be re-introduced into the band.
Have you listened to BMUBMD? :biggrin:
Koji Kondo is a musical genius, by the way.All grown up, got my 'shroom, twice my size
More songs about nasty sex experiences.
A Twathair to Remember
Koji Kondo is a musical genius, by the way.All grown up, got my 'shroom, twice my size
Koopa shells come my way, Yoshi dies
What about a concept album based on a video game? Like Zelda, or Metroid, or Mario? That would be awesome!
So who's doing the first totally made up album title, track listing and track lengths?When they say something more about it, I expect the season to begin.
This shall be my first album anticipated as a DTF member. So far I anticipated two albums on my own, I like having company :heart
So who's doing the first totally made up album title, track listing and track lengths?
Then I guess a long overdue welcome is in order. Even though you've got twice as many posts as I do....Much appreciated nonetheless :)
Not quite, but the concept is linked to a previous DT song...
So who's doing the first totally made up album title, track listing and track lengths?
Dream Theater - XII: The New Majesty Suite
1. Overture 1985(instrumental) - 4:03
2. A Change of Singers - 7:36
3. The Clash of the Kevins - 3:58
4. Vocal Chord Rupture part 1: Fatal Tragedy - 8:05
5. Vocal Chord Rupture part 2: The Singer Carries On - 5:57
6. The Arrival of the Wizard(instrumental) - 5:12
7. The Split - 24:01
I. The Seed
II. Just Let Me Breathe
III. A7X Jam
IV. Leaving the Baby
V. Regret
8. The Genie - 11:00
Seeds of Shame (concept album)
Seeds of Shame (concept album)
I read "Seeds of Shaman" :P
Dream Theater - Life is totally unexpected, sometimes. Let's have a ball!Big block at the top, landscape improbable but symbolic (in a fairly literal kind of way), bit of stock photography at the side - yep, that's a Hugh Syme alright!
(https://img3.fotos-hochladen.net/uploads/dtcover3qnhae56lm.png)
1. Water on the Edge (7:34)
2. Breaking out of this Cage (6:35)
3. This shining Light (3:52)
4. Centuries of Mayhem (12:18)
5. The Wrath of the Emperor (11:34)
6. The Light in the Dark (4:28)
7. When Sunrise escapes again (21:33)
8. Light on top of the Water (5:02)
All music and lyrics by Johnathan Petrucci.
Artwork by Hugh Syme.
Meanwhile in an alternate universe:
Dream Theatuh's new mixtape, "GIGA-BLING"
"Bustin' up da hood" 2:45
"Nuggetz" ft. Mike Portnoy 5:58
"Roll wid It" ft. Rick Astley 3:22
"The rhymes of JMX" 3:16
"Clubbin' with Geddy" ft. Geddy Lee 2:53
"Police in my Yard" 4:32
"New Years on Long Island" 3:39
"Bustavarium" ft. Busta Rhymes, Lil Wayne, and Eddie Murphy
So who's doing the first totally made up album title, track listing and track lengths?
Dream Theater - XII: The New Majesty Suite
1. Overture 1985(instrumental) - 4:03
2. A Change of Singers - 7:36
3. The Clash of the Kevins - 3:58
4. Vocal Chord Rupture part 1: Fatal Tragedy - 8:05
5. Vocal Chord Rupture part 2: The Singer Carries On - 5:57
6. The Arrival of the Wizard(instrumental) - 5:12
7. The Split - 24:01
I. The Seed
II. Just Let Me Breathe
III. A7X Jam
IV. Leaving the Baby
V. Regret
8. The Genie - 11:00
Dream Theater: The Water Cycle
1. H20 (instrumental) [3:52]
2. Evaporation [8:22]
3. Condensation [11:36]
4. Break Me Up, Build Me Down [5:17]
5. Precipitation [36:12]
6. Evaporation (reprise, acoustic) [2:18]
Meanwhile in an alternate universe:
Dream Theatuh's new mixtape, "GIGA-BLING"
"Bustin' up da hood" 2:45
"Nuggetz" ft. Mike Portnoy 5:58
"Roll wid It" ft. Rick Astley 3:22
"The rhymes of JMX" 3:16
"Clubbin' with Geddy" ft. Geddy Lee 2:53
"Police in my Yard" 4:32
"New Years on Long Island" 3:39
"Bustavarium" ft. Busta Rhymes, Lil Wayne, and Eddie Murphy
So who's doing the first totally made up album title, track listing and track lengths?
I foresee the band making a bold change of direction towards progressive brass.
(https://img547.imageshack.us/img547/6278/metubalis.jpg)
I didn't know that's the only song on the album. My copy has eight more songs for some reason. ;)It's been long enough!Have you listened to ADTOE? ;)
Myung HAS to be re-introduced into the band.
Have you listened to BMUBMD? :biggrin:
Brilliant. :hefdaddySo who's doing the first totally made up album title, track listing and track lengths?
Dream Theater - XII: The New Majesty Suite
1. Overture 1985(instrumental) - 4:03
2. A Change of Singers - 7:36
3. The Clash of the Kevins - 3:58
4. Vocal Chord Rupture part 1: Fatal Tragedy - 8:05
5. Vocal Chord Rupture part 2: The Singer Carries On - 5:57
6. The Arrival of the Wizard(instrumental) - 5:12
7. The Split - 24:01
I. The Seed
II. Just Let Me Breathe
III. A7X Jam
IV. Leaving the Baby
V. Regret
8. The Genie - 11:00
That's spot on! :lolSo who's doing the first totally made up album title, track listing and track lengths?
Dream Theater - XII: The New Majesty Suite
1. Overture 1985(instrumental) - 4:03
2. A Change of Singers - 7:36
3. The Clash of the Kevins - 3:58
4. Vocal Chord Rupture part 1: Fatal Tragedy - 8:05
5. Vocal Chord Rupture part 2: The Singer Carries On - 5:57
6. The Arrival of the Wizard(instrumental) - 5:12
7. The Split - 24:01
I. The Seed
II. Just Let Me Breathe
III. A7X Jam
IV. Leaving the Baby
V. Regret
8. The Genie - 11:00
Something I did while we were waiting for the DT10 title.
(https://i.imgur.com/mhI4S.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/N13GS.jpg)That's amazing! :lol
The bottom one I think I actually linked to, in a thread, and said it was the cover art for the then-upcoming Raw Dog single. I am pretty sure a few people believed me, and defended my terrible photoshopping. I was incredibly flattered.
Oh shit at those gifs :lolThat's what we are.
The second one reminded me of a bunch of sharks in a frenzy feed!
*snip*
Oh shit at those gifs :lolThat's what we are.
The second one reminded me of a bunch of sharks in a frenzy feed!
*snip*
Awesome!!! :lol :lol :lol :lol
Ha. Yep, there it is. Dear me. I wish I could tell you why I did that, but... nope, not coming to me. I think I must be obsessed with Hugh Syme. He has one trick, that he's really good at, and I think I get a lot of joy out of copying that formula to the hilt, but then doing a really botch job of it.The bottom one I think I actually linked to, in a thread, and said it was the cover art for the then-upcoming Raw Dog single. I am pretty sure a few people believed me, and defended my terrible photoshopping. I was incredibly flattered.
I didn't remember that, so I went and dug it up: https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=9046.msg312153#msg312153
Pretty lulzy.
That sounds like the proggiest album ever.
The experience of anticipating a new DT record on your own:You should've been here when we were waiting for the drummer announcement! :lol I wonder what kind of gif would describe that anticipation...
*snip*
And on DTF:
*snip*
DREAM THEATER - Chrysalis ÆternaThose titles sound like something a DT copycat band would come up with to try and be proggier than anyone else.
CD 1 – Prologue
1. Daydream (5:38)
2. Shadow: Within (6:05)
3. Shadow: Without (5:06)
4. Winter Voice (5:44)
5. Midnight Sunrise (4:30)
6. The Key and the Window (12:54)
CD 2 – Chronicles
1. The First Step (9:14)
I. The Flash of Lightning (Prelude) (0:13)
II. Operation Organ (3:49)
III. Intolerance (5:12)
2. Youth (4:27)
3. Beginning and Ending of Centuries (10:45)
4. Dreams of a Wallpainter (5:53)
5. Chrysalis Æterna (31:00)
I. Borders and Beyond (3:34)
II. Territory-Deterritorialization (15:00)
III. Quadrature (12:00)
IV. The Sound of Thunder (Coda) (0:26)
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You should've been here when we were waiting for the drummer announcement! :lol I wonder what kind of gif would describe that anticipation...Well, I wasn't exactly cheering for any drummer in particular, but then again, your collective excitement would have swayed me to some side :)
You should've been here when we were waiting for the drummer announcement! :lol I wonder what kind of gif would describe that anticipation...
Okay, I just have to repeat myself, with images this time.
The experience of anticipating a new DT record on your own:
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Well, at least that pic represents the reactions! :lolYou should've been here when we were waiting for the drummer announcement! :lol I wonder what kind of gif would describe that anticipation...
Who needs a gif?
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Ok, think it's time to post this....
DREAM THEATER - Chrysalis Æterna
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CD 1 – Prologue
1. Daydream (5:38)
2. Shadow: Within (6:05)
3. Shadow: Without (5:06)
4. Winter Voice (5:44)
5. Midnight Sunrise (4:30)
6. The Key and the Window (12:54)
CD 2 – Chronicles
1. The First Step (9:14)
I. The Flash of Lightning (Prelude) (0:13)
II. Operation Organ (3:49)
III. Intolerance (5:12)
2. Youth (4:27)
3. Beginning and Ending of Centuries (10:45)
4. Dreams of a Wallpainter (5:53)
5. Chrysalis Æterna (31:00)
I. Borders and Beyond (3:34)
II. Territory-Deterritorialization (15:00)
III. Quadrature (12:00)
IV. The Sound of Thunder (Coda) (0:26)
Sorry for not being funny ::)
Please, Dream Theater? Write a song 2 seconds long? That would never happen.
Please, Dream Theater? Write a song 2 seconds long? That would never happen.
But it's the 2nd track and is 2 seconds
NUGGETZ
Dream Theater - The George W. Bush Nipple Cripple ExtravaganzaI'd just about die to hear this. Just switch JR with JMX :biggrin:
1. The George W. Bush Nipple Cripple Extravaganza (69:42)
2. Jordan Rudess Lists Your Good Qualities (0:02)
Dream Theater XII : Dodecavarium : Full Circle ( except it's not a circle )There are 12 thirty degree sections of a circle. Twelve thirty-minute songs could do the trick. :lol
Stuff went here
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This is fast becomming my favourite gif on the forums. I don't know why, but for some reason my mind edits in a girlish squeal when I see it, as if that's the noise the ghost is making.That's because I often make that face along with the girlish squeal :)
You've found a way to channel into my mind?
HOW YOU DO THIS?
You've found a way to channel into my mind?
HOW YOU DO THIS?
She's being doing that to me since last August! It's crystal clear that she has super powers.
You've found a way to channel into my mind?John Petrucci had me swear not to tell!
HOW YOU DO THIS?
You've found a way to channel into my mind?
HOW YOU DO THIS?
She's being doing that to me since last August! It's crystal clear that she has super powers.
Either that, or you just have the mind of a teenage girl.
Theories of extinction no. 68: Morawintersoul's telepathic tendencies scared all the mammoths.
Poor mammoths.
Considering that she entered the minds of two men in the twenties, it's more likely the other way round! :lolI'm a 20-year-old progger dude now?
Well, to be fair, I'm hardly a good example of "20 something male" mindset.
Well, to be fair, I'm hardly a good example of "20 something male" mindset.Marco isn't either, so maybe that's the reason why. WE HAVE NO EXPLANATION FOR THIS PHENOMENON, EVERYONE GO HOME.
That image is around somewhere. I will find it. maybe.
Also, that 12th DT album better be good ::)
That image is around somewhere. I will find it. maybe.
Is it from the green hair series?
To recap what we know so far:
- The band kind of started writing for the album on tour through jamming and such
- John Petrucci, like last time, also has some demos of material he wrote by himself that might be used
- The band will enter the studio in January
Am I missing anything?
Do we actually have any idea what Mangini writing might mean? First off, what roles can he play? I know when Portnoy left, there was a lot of "Well, Portnoy did a lot, but it was mostly just his parts and some vocal melodies"--does Mangini have the same limitations? And what style does he prefer? Just because he can be really technical doesn't mean he will be--JP can be really technical, but he wrote BTS, for instance. I know Mangini's pre-DT work was mostly on a session/intermittent basis, so is there really much of a body of work out there that someone can point to and say "Here's what he can do?"
I'm certainly very excited that he'll be contributing, as I think DT functions best when everybody contributes and is inspired, but the information doesn't really push me in a concrete direction yet.
And those rhythms will be created as part of the dialogue, rather than as response to a previous dialogue. The music can be shaped around the rhythms - his choices can help guide the songs, rather than following a blueprint that's already set in stone. That's huge.
True. Including a drummer in writing session (as opposed to just bombing him with finished parts and expecting to create rigid drum sounds) may (dramatically) change the feel of a song.So you could say this turn of events is quite... dramatic. :biggrin:
True. Including a drummer in writing session (as opposed to just bombing him with finished parts and expecting to create rigid drum sounds) may (dramatically) change the feel of a song.So you could say this turn of events is quite... dramatic. :biggrin:
Yesterday I used this as an argument: the world will not end because DT12 is sure to come out next year.
Yesterday I used this as an argument: the world will not end because DT12 is sure to come out next year.
And those rhythms will be created as part of the dialogue, rather than as response to a previous dialogue. The music can be shaped around the rhythms - his choices can help guide the songs, rather than following a blueprint that's already set in stone. That's huge.
I'd actually like to see some callbacks to earlier albums. Nothing too obvious like TSF. But like how These Walls's solo calls back to Take Away My Pain's solo.Whoa. I never noticed that. Was that really intentional?
It must be.I'd actually like to see some callbacks to earlier albums. Nothing too obvious like TSF. But like how These Walls's solo calls back to Take Away My Pain's solo.Whoa. I never noticed that. Was that really intentional?
Yesterday I used this as an argument: the world will not end because DT12 is sure to come out next year.JP said that they signed with Roadrunner for three more albums, so I think there'll be no apocalypse until the next three DT albums are out! :biggrin:
Yesterday I used this as an argument: the world will not end because DT12 is sure to come out next year.JP said that they signed with Roadrunner for three more albums, so I think there'll be no apocalypse until the next three DT albums are out! :biggrin:
The world will end when John Myung says it will.Yesterday I used this as an argument: the world will not end because DT12 is sure to come out next year.JP said that they signed with Roadrunner for three more albums, so I think there'll be no apocalypse until the next three DT albums are out! :biggrin:
As long as DT keep re-signing the contract, the world is safe :)
Do we actually have any idea what Mangini writing might mean? First off, what roles can he play?
I asked Mike about this about a year ago at a drum clinic and I broke it down in detail in some post on this forum. I dont have time to find it now but he essentially said he will still finding his groove with the band so he was mostly taking a back seat but as they were jamming at soundcheck and trying out new stuff, they might ask him to play a certain beat or he might say, "well what about this?" but for the most part he would just sit back and let them do their thing and only interject occasionally.
In typically Mangini style, he was overexcited while talking about it, saying that John Myung was FLOURISHING (something my gf immitates quite often) and if James was backstage and heard something he liked, he would come out to check it out.
All in all, it really sounds like they are functioning as a band with Jordan and JP taking the reins as usual, but JM and JLB adding input and MM slowly becoming a bigger part of the process.
The bolded part - I CAN HEAR HIS VOICE.
In typically Mangini style, he was overexcited while talking about it, saying that John Myung was FLOURISHING
All in all, it really sounds like they are functioning as a band with Jordan and JP taking the reins as usual, but JM and JLB adding input and MM slowly becoming a bigger part of the process.
Concept Album. Nicholas comes back as a blood-sucking zombie.
:lol or ForsakenConcept Album. Nicholas comes back as a blood-sucking zombie.
I thing this was the metaphorical reading of The Dark Eternal Night :lol
I was about to write that too, but the vampire of Forsaken is a she. Victoria, mayhaps? :lolThey could be just like the couple in "A Little Piece of Heaven" by Avenged Sevenfold :lol
I asked Mike about this about a year ago at a drum clinic and I broke it down in detail in some post on this forum. I dont have time to find it now but he essentially said he will still finding his groove with the band so he was mostly taking a back seat but as they were jamming at soundcheck and trying out new stuff, they might ask him to play a certain beat or he might say, "well what about this?" but for the most part he would just sit back and let them do their thing and only interject occasionally.
In typically Mangini style, he was overexcited while talking about it, saying that John Myung was FLOURISHING (something my gf immitates quite often) and if James was backstage and heard something he liked, he would come out to check it out.
All in all, it really sounds like they are functioning as a band with Jordan and JP taking the reins as usual, but JM and JLB adding input and MM slowly becoming a bigger part of the process.
But of course, that was a year ago, right? In a recent interview, JP said that they do intend to have Mangini in the studio and contributing when they go in to write the album.
JMX wrote all the coolest rocking riffs on that album, from what I gathered from the commentary :metalIn a recent interview, JP said that they do intend to have Mangini in the studio and contributing when they go in to write the album.
Yes, I read that interview and JP hyped up MM's contributions a lot. I had a feeling MM was being pretty humble since he is a pretty humble guy. The truth is probably in the middle. I think the benefit of having MM around isn't so much that he becomes a main contributor but that they can have someone pick up a beat fast so they can test it out with a full band as opposed to just writing and having to program a drum machine later. I also think there will be a few times where if they really broke down the album and who contributed what, there would be specific parts where Mike instigated a section. Sort of like in Scenes From a Memory, in the commentary on the DVD MP pointed out a riff that John Myung contributed in Strange Deja Vu. Obviously JM isn't a "main" writer but had valuable input nonetheless.
Anyway, I seem to have read that there is the wish of not seeing acoustic ballads anymore. Can I ask why?
:lol or ForsakenConcept Album. Nicholas comes back as a blood-sucking zombie.
I thing this was the metaphorical reading of The Dark Eternal Night :lol
Sry no news but has anyone realized it may be less than a week or two before DT enters the holy sanctum!
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bosk, :bcbanana:?
Many people have been hoping for James to use his higher register more than he did on ADTOE. Personally I loved the vocals on ADTOE so much that I'm perfectly happy if he continues like that. I do like high male vocals, but I don't consider them mandatory. Anyway, I'm pretty sure it's going to be an awesome album. :)
Many people have been hoping for James to use his higher register more than he did on ADTOE. Personally I loved the vocals on ADTOE so much that I'm perfectly happy if he continues like that. I do like high male vocals, but I don't consider them mandatory. Anyway, I'm pretty sure it's going to be an awesome album. :)
As much of a high vocals nut as I am, I agree with this. The vocals on ADTOE were really strong and well-executed even though they were often fairly...plain, for lack of a better word. And the nice thing about them is that James can be consistent with them live--they didn't force him into the upper range where he tends to get pitchy and wobbly live (though he was better with that this tour than in the past anyway). I'd like to see a couple of bigtime super-high type things, kind of like the BMUBMD chorus except more melodic and not just in a backing part, but other than that I think DT would be wise to keep James in the same registers as ADTOE had him.
Well that and more lyrics from James LaBrie which is probably my biggest complaint about the whole thing, which I told him when I met him. I wanted to say that to JP too but I thought it might be tactless so I praised him for his lyrics, which I did think were among his best.I really liked this part of your post, and I went a bit back through your posts and saw there's always some parts I especially like and that you're a nice person so I'm just letting you know :mora:
Well that and more lyrics from James LaBrie which is probably my biggest complaint about the whole thing, which I told him when I met him. I wanted to say that to JP too but I thought it might be tactless so I praised him for his lyrics, which I did think were among his best.I really liked this part of your post, and I went a bit back through your posts and saw there's always some parts I especially like and that you're a nice person so I'm just letting you know :mora:
So, do you think they will enter the studio Jan 2nd like they did last time or they will wait a couple of days/weeks more? Also, let's cast our bets about the studio. I say Cove City again, unless they need a somewhat larger space for the drum kit.
So, do you think they will enter the studio Jan 2nd like they did last time or they will wait a couple of days/weeks more? Also, let's cast our bets about the studio. I say Cove City again, unless they need a somewhat larger space for the drum kit.
So, do you think they will enter the studio Jan 2nd like they did last time or they will wait a couple of days/weeks more? Also, let's cast our bets about the studio. I say Cove City again, unless they need a somewhat larger space for the drum kit.
My guess is it will be recorded at Abbey Road Studios in London, with a live debut performance at the amphitheater at Pompeii. It'll be released as a double live album along side the original studio recordings 4 disks total. However, as an added bonus there will of course be the live DVD performance with behind the scenes of the new albums creation along with lengthy interviews and individual commentary tracks of band members.
However, as an added bonus there will of course be the live DVD performance with behind the scenes of the new albums creation along with lengthy interviews and individual commentary tracks of band members.JMX commentary:
I think that the next record should sound massive. That is all.
So, do you think they will enter the studio Jan 2nd like they did last time or they will wait a couple of days/weeks more? Also, let's cast our bets about the studio. I say Cove City again, unless they need a somewhat larger space for the drum kit.
I think that the next record should sound massive. That is all.
What do you mean by massive? Thrain Of Thought massive?
So, do you think they will enter the studio Jan 2nd like they did last time or they will wait a couple of days/weeks more? Also, let's cast our bets about the studio. I say Cove City again, unless they need a somewhat larger space for the drum kit.
What actually happened to the Bear Tracks Studio? Why don't they record there anymore? I don't remember I know somebody from the band said something to it but I have no idea what... They didn't record there since SDOIT and every DT album that was recorded there was awesome so it would be nice to record one more album there :)
Of course there is no way that they will spend two consecutive months far from their families just to record an album where The Beatles did. Nor that they would go an play in a place that is already an iconic venue linked forever to an iconic band like Pink Floyd.
So, do you think they will enter the studio Jan 2nd like they did last time or they will wait a couple of days/weeks more? Also, let's cast our bets about the studio. I say Cove City again, unless they need a somewhat larger space for the drum kit.
Too bad BearTracks is closed forever, would've been cool to see them record there again. But then the I&W comparisons would sky-rocket.
Hopefully people won't stir up comparisons based solely on the studio choice..... ::)I'll stir up comparisons based on JP's shirts.
Hopefully people won't stir up comparisons based solely on the studio choice..... ::)I'll stir up comparisons based on JP's shirts.
Hopefully people won't stir up comparisons based solely on the studio choice..... ::)I'll stir up comparisons based on JP's shirts.
I'll calculate the possibility of DT producing another epic album based on the number of cymbals and drums MM is gonna use :biggrin:
It'll be interesting what the new album brings. The last album had some bold parts, which was good, but for the most part it was also safe, to show they can do DT music with a major previous member missing.
The new album will probably show how DT sees their own future. Will they play it safe again, or will they evolve?
I imagine they'd go and do something a bit more experimental, like SDOIT was. At least, I hope they'll do that.Especially since you can draw a line between SFAM and ADTOE in terms of the circumstance of member change, but even more importantly, I imagine they are about as relaxed about their direction and confident in the support of their fanbase as they were pre-SDOIT.
It'll be interesting what the new album brings. The last album had some bold parts.
It'll be interesting what the new album brings. The last album had some bold parts.
I'd quite like some Italics or superscript on the new album. :hat
I'm just glad it was Sans Portnoy. :hat
It'll be interesting what the new album brings. The last album had some bold parts.
I'd quite like some Italics or superscript on the new album. :hat
I thought most of it was Comic Sans.
I imagine they'd go and do something a bit more experimental, like SDOIT was. At least, I hope they'll do that.
It'll be interesting what the new album brings. The last album had some bold parts.
I'd quite like some Italics or superscript on the new album. :hat
I thought most of it was Comic Sans.
:lol As the #1 hater of Comic Sans, I find that a very harsh statement. I'd say ADTOE is Times New Roman. :P
It'll be interesting what the new album brings. The last album had some bold parts.
I'd quite like some Italics or superscript on the new album. :hat
I thought most of it was Comic Sans.
:lol As the #1 hater of Comic Sans, I find that a very harsh statement. I'd say ADTOE is Times New Roman. :P
Happy New Year !! The sight of freshly packed suitcases bound for Dream Theater Recording Land and the smell of new equipment will hit New York like an icy New England breeze fill with pure drum violence and fresh ideas. Eric and I, along with our sound engineer, will be working very, very hard the next few days to have the kit precisely reflecting all of our major changes, as well as having it pristine looking and ultra crisp sounding for when the rest of the band arrives next week. Yeah !!
I'm hoping for a shorter album title.
I'm hoping for a shorter album title.
Haha, that's a very weird hope. Any reason why?
I'm hoping for a shorter album title.
This is probably out of their hands and I am grateful that CDs come with them, but man, can they switch up the booklets. The past three albums have all been the same style.
Something of Something-Something Or Something Like That.I'm hoping for a shorter album title.
The Contrabulous Fabtraption of Professor Horatio Hufnagel.
When Dream and Words Awaken Into Infinite Scenes of Inner Thoughtavarium & Chaotic Silver Turn of Events pt. XII.THREAD TITLE CHANGE PLEASE. This needs to happen.
I'm not sure it's a good idea, Milena :D
It is bad if you don't add the tracklenghts :biggrin:
You should have put the Short Keyboard Interlude at >7 minutes :D
Hey Zydar, back off! "The Weakest Link" was my idea! :P
Blob: :lol :rollin :lol
WDAWAIISOIT8V&CSTOE Pt. XII
3. Crazy - 3:56
WDAWAIISOIT8V&CSTOE Pt. XII (Release date August 5th 2013)
1. Not Your Fault (6:23)
2. Say What You Will (4:52)
3. The Weakest Link (8:25)
4. Don't Turn Back (7:03)
5. Twisted Paranoia [Instrumental] (4:52)
6. Judas (5:44)
7. The Vortex (17:16) [The epic of the album]
8. Between and Beyond (5:31)
9. When The Sun Sets (8:43)
68.82 minutes
I chose that date because 5 and 8.
12. Revenge of the Unicycling Clown pt 2. The Dodecavarium and the Quest for the Shaman's Pants (20:13)
10. Twinkle Twinkle Little Star (feat. Chris Cornell on the vocals) (0:41)
The cover:We need all of this.
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Delirious Melodies and Obsequious GesturesPlease tell me Here Comes The Shaman (Endless) came from Terminal (Endless).
Disc 1
1. Introspection (0:15) - a little throwaway intro.
2. Outside All Comprehension (11:22) - a pretty much standard Dream Theater track, except for the fact that entire middle section is Rudess singing in a rousing, glass-shattering falsetto.
3. Myungford and Sons (6:17) - an anthemic, banjo-led piece sure to appeal to hipsters everywhere.
4. The Truth Behind Sasquatch (9:39) - a song about Bigfoot. Features ocarina interludes, lots of hand percussion, and Petrucci gleefully imitating Bigfoot's grunts with both guitar and voice.
5. Metropolis Part Cooool: Nicholas Goes to the Lounge (5:51) - a smooth jazz interpretation of some SFAM themes. LaBrie plays the saxophone and Mangini scat sings.
6. Temporal Spastic Space-Time Vector Limit (8:33) - a trippy, freakish instrumental featuring a 3 minute long glockenspiel/lyre unison.
7. Moore Kevin (6:02) - Kevin Moore returns, but just to sit in the studio and brood while the other guys record a song completely unrelated to Kevin Moore.
8. DTF.org (5:29) - a ballad about the eccentric personalities on some message board.
9. The Hutt of Tatooine (14:11) - tells the tale of the rescue of Han Solo from the clutches of the vile gangster, Jabba the Hutt. It's heavy.
Disc 2
1. Jordan's Beard (7:17) - a song in a classic prog style, featuring every single keyboard Jordan could find during a countrywide flea market search. The toy piano breakdown is a highlight.
2. You Not Me Part II: Well, Maybe it is About Me, Actually (4:45) - the long awaited follow-up to Dream Theater's most popular song!!!!
3. Here Comes the Shaman (10:53) - a track consisting entirely of the "shaman" from Bridges in the Sky.
4. I'm Lonely, Bored, and Tired (2:33) - a short ballad written by LaBrie during one of his lengthy forklift journeys.
5. Don't Dub the Crooked Step (4:46) - DT's foray into the ubiquitous dubstep genre. Lyrics are about how cool robots are.
6. A Great Mountain Lion Stalks the Quiet Mountains of the Ever-Frigid Northlands While Autogyros Hover in the Scarlet Sky Over the Tranquil Seas (Parts 3 and 9) (20:30) - a long, slow, post-rock influenced track. LaBrie's only contribution is the snoring that begins around minute 17.
7. Wake Up, James! (3:44) - the fastest DT song ever. Mangini sets several new world records.
8. He Speaks (4:50) - Myung loudly shouts about stuff over stirring orchestral accompaniment.
9. Extending the Fathomable Reaches of Imagination (9:48) - a song so creative, so life-changing, it instantly becomes the most popular Dream Theater song of all time. Fans everywhere shed tears of joy.
10. Outrospection (0:17) - a little throwaway outro.
Special Edition Bonus Disc:
1. The Ballad of Bilbo Baggins (18:39)
2. Baby Elephant Walk (4:01)
3. Disco Duck (7:11)
4. Extending the Fathomable Reaches of Imagination (Less Creative Version) (8:23)
5. Myungford and Sons (Radio Edit) (4:42)
6. Here Comes the Shaman (Endless) (34:57)
8. DTF.org (5:29) - a ballad about the eccentric personalities on some message board.:omg:
Please tell me Here Comes The Shaman (Endless) came from Terminal (Endless).
This is the best post ever.
Weird Songs and Crappy TitlesOh, and the limited edition will include a bonus disc with a couple of additional tracks:
1. 5:00 (4:31) - a sequel to 6:00 - the main character suffers from insomnia and this time he wakes up at 5 AM on a Christmas morning
2. 12 Meters of Hidden Secrets (12:00) - an obligatory reference to this album being the 12th DT record, lyrics written by JP based on a Wikipedia article about a mysterious underground cave found somewhere
3. Set the Controls for the Core of the Moon (58:58) - a psychedelic and experimental song including a 10-minute intro played by Jordan on kazoo, trombone and bagpipes, and a spoken word part by JMX - the lyrics tell about a guy being trapped inside the moon
Hidden bonus track:
4. The Drowner of Huron (3:30)
3. 5:00 (reggae version):lol
Didn't someone guess 1 or 2 of the ADTOE titles almost perfectly before they were announced? :D
Oop, quick braggery interlude - last time we did this, I had a song on mine called "Under the Surface." (https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=13823.msg467614#msg467614)
Tears are running down my face I AM NOT WELL.Weird Songs and Crappy TitlesOh, and the limited edition will include a bonus disc with a couple of additional tracks:
1. 5:00 (4:31) - a sequel to 6:00 - the main character suffers from insomnia and this time he wakes up at 5 AM on a Christmas morning
2. 12 Meters of Hidden Secrets (12:00) - an obligatory reference to this album being the 12th DT record, lyrics written by JP based on a Wikipedia article about a mysterious underground cave found somewhere
3. Set the Controls for the Core of the Moon (58:58) - a psychedelic and experimental song including a 10-minute intro played by Jordan on kazoo, trombone and bagpipes, and a spoken word part by JMX - the lyrics tell about a guy being trapped inside the moon
Hidden bonus track:
4. The Drowner of Huron (3:30)
1. Get Back into Mah Car (DT reunited with Kevin Moore to write this song - it's a mix between Chroma Key and the newer DT style)
2. The Drowner of Huron (full version)
3. 5:00 (reggae version)
4. Light on Me Mad Jewel (demo version of STCFTCOTM with different lyrics and the intro played on sitar, kantele and accordion)
1. 5:00 (4:31) - a sequel to 6:00 - the main character suffers from insomnia and this time he wakes up at 5 AM on a Christmas morning:clap: :rollin
...
"Forget what you don't know yetFixed.
Forget what you don't know yet
Forget what you don't know yet
Yeah, I saw the way you went down the cellar stairs
Forget what you don't know yet
Forget what you don't know yet
Forget what you don't know yet
And now you never suck on your pipe"
Dammit that's so polished and fits the melody perfectly. Be the John Petrucci to my John Myung? :lol"Forget what you don't know yet
Forget what you don't know yet
Forget what you don't know yet
Yeah, I saw the way you went down the cellar stairs
Forget what you don't know yet
Forget what you don't know yet
Forget what you don't know yet
And now you never suck on your pipe"
I don't :-\In May 2011 Jordan tweeted that he saved someone's life on lake Huron (https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=23491.0) and this (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7wDWhRjIVZw) is what someone came up with after that.
Dammit that's so polished and fits the melody perfectly. Be the John Petrucci to my John Myung? :lolYes, it fits - now everyone can sing along to it with those lyrics! :lol
1) I remember his tweet.
In May 2011 Jordan tweeted that he saved someone's life on lake Huron (https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=23491.0) and this (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7wDWhRjIVZw) is what someone came up with after that.
Delirious Melodies and Obsequious Gestures:hefdaddy :hefdaddy :hefdaddy :hefdaddy :hefdaddy :rollin :rollin
Disc 1
1. Introspection (0:15) - a little throwaway intro.
2. Outside All Comprehension (11:22) - a pretty much standard Dream Theater track, except for the fact that the entire middle section is Rudess singing in a rousing, glass-shattering falsetto.
3. Myungford and Sons (6:17) - an anthemic, banjo-led piece sure to appeal to hipsters everywhere.
4. The Truth Behind Sasquatch (9:39) - a song about Bigfoot. Features ocarina interludes, lots of hand percussion, and Petrucci gleefully imitating Bigfoot's grunts with both guitar and voice.
5. Metropolis Part Cooool: Nicholas Goes to the Lounge (5:51) - a smooth jazz interpretation of some SFAM themes. LaBrie plays the saxophone and Mangini scat sings.
6. Temporal Spastic Space-Time Vector Limit (8:33) - a trippy, freakish instrumental featuring a 3 minute long glockenspiel/lyre unison.
7. Moore Kevin (6:02) - Kevin Moore returns, but just to sit in the studio and brood while the other guys record a song completely unrelated to Kevin Moore.
8. DTF.org (5:29) - a ballad about the eccentric personalities on some message board.
9. The Hutt of Tatooine (14:11) - tells the tale of the rescue of Han Solo from the clutches of the vile gangster, Jabba the Hutt. It's heavy.
Disc 2
1. Jordan's Beard (7:17) - a song in a classic prog style, featuring every single keyboard Jordan could find during a countrywide flea market search. The toy piano breakdown is a highlight.
2. You Not Me Part II: Well, Maybe it is About Me, Actually (4:45) - the long awaited follow-up to Dream Theater's most popular song!!!!
3. Here Comes the Shaman (10:53) - a track consisting entirely of the "shaman" from Bridges in the Sky.
4. I'm Lonely, Bored, and Tired (2:33) - a short ballad written by LaBrie during one of his lengthy forklift journeys.
5. Don't Dub the Crooked Step (4:46) - DT's foray into the ubiquitous dubstep genre. Lyrics are about how cool robots are.
6. A Great Mountain Lion Stalks the Quiet Mountains of the Ever-Frigid Northlands While Autogyros Hover in the Scarlet Sky Over the Tranquil Seas (Parts 3 and 9) (20:30) - a long, slow, post-rock influenced track. LaBrie's only contribution is the snoring that begins around minute 17.
7. Wake Up, James! (3:44) - the fastest DT song ever. Mangini sets several new world records.
8. He Speaks (4:50) - Myung loudly shouts about stuff over stirring orchestral accompaniment.
9. Extending the Fathomable Reaches of Imagination (9:48) - a song so creative, so life-changing, it instantly becomes the most popular Dream Theater song of all time. Fans everywhere shed tears of joy.
10. Outrospection (0:17) - a little throwaway outro.
Special Edition Bonus Disc:
1. The Ballad of Bilbo Baggins (18:39)
2. Baby Elephant Walk (4:01)
3. Disco Duck (7:11)
4. Extending the Fathomable Reaches of Imagination (Less Creative Version) (8:23)
5. Myungford and Sons (Radio Edit) (4:42)
6. Here Comes the Shaman (Endless) (34:57)
Why haven't I heard that before? :lol
Why haven't I heard that before? :jets:
I think you resurfaced a bit later, like in June or so, right?
Why haven't I heard that before? :lol
I think you resurfaced a bit later, like in June or so, right?
8. He Speaks (0:08) - Myung loudly shouts about stuff over stirring orchestral accompaniment.
As you can see in the thread I linked (https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=23491.msg902310#msg902310), the song was uploaded originally quite soon after Jordan's tweet - it wasn't on YT until later.Why haven't I heard that before? :lol
I think you resurfaced a bit later, like in June or so, right?
I came back in 2011 a couple of months before ADTOE came out. This says it was uploaded Jan 18 2012. Is that the original upload date, or is this a newer upload of it?
I wonder if John Myung tried to save the guy, but then Jordan cut in and did it with his left hand....
I'm betting my money on "DT XII: We Don't Need You, Or Your Ass And Balls"
Let The Game Begin! Photo from Studio. :metal :metal
*snip*
7.Wait A Second (0.01)---->Cause this is an excellent idea. It's just MP's burp.
Also add in7.Wait A Second (0.01)---->Cause this is an excellent idea. It's just MP's burp.
DREAM THEATER IS:
James LaBrie--vocals
John Petrucci--guitars
John Myung--......................bass
Jordan Rudess--keyboards, continuum, lap steel guitar, harpejji, eigenharp, iPad, iPod, iPod shuffle, iPod nano, iTouch, MorphWiz, SketchWiz, SampleWiz, keytar, piano
Mike Mangini--drums, percussion
Mike Portnoy--burps, "five-year hiatuses," ass and balls
There's a Nord in there. I think we're going to get some bad-arse organ sounds.
There's a Nord in there. I think we're going to get some bad-arse organ sounds.
Define badass organ sounds. Provide examples if you can :blush
This is gonna be awesome on the new Dream Theater album. Within no more than two minutes of playing Element, I knew that it was really great! The quality of the oscillators and filters, along with the depth of the modulation parameters, make it really top-class. I can’t wait to get in the recording studio and start using it!
There's a Nord in there. I think we're going to get some bad-arse organ sounds.
Define badass organ sounds. Provide examples if you can :blush
IIRC, Einar Solberg from Leprous uses a Nord keyboard ;)
Also:Quote from: Jordan RudessThis is gonna be awesome on the new Dream Theater album. Within no more than two minutes of playing Element, I knew that it was really great! The quality of the oscillators and filters, along with the depth of the modulation parameters, make it really top-class. I can’t wait to get in the recording studio and start using it!
https://www.waves.com/content.aspx?id=12081#video
Derek Sherinian uses a Nord too.... :heart
(and my stepfather has one).
If JR goes and uses the Bosendorfer samples on it, Milena, I guarantee you will die from how awesome that piano sounds.NO, I WANT TO DIE HAPPY KAI???!!! :biggrin:
For the sake of DTF, Jordan: I BEG YOU NOT TO USE THE BOSENDORFER SAMPLES. WE CANNOT HANDLE THAT MUCH AWESOME.
I think you'd not so much die happy as dissolve into a pool of orange consciousness.
^ yeah pretty much it.
(https://distilleryimage4.instagram.com/bc8b6af6576611e2926822000a1f9c9b_7.jpg)
From Petrucci's Twitter ;D
Also add in7.Wait A Second (0.01)---->Cause this is an excellent idea. It's just MP's burp.
DREAM THEATER IS:
James LaBrie--vocals
John Petrucci--guitars
John Myung--......................bass
Jordan Rudess--keyboards, continuum, lap steel guitar, harpejji, eigenharp, iPad, iPod, iPod shuffle, iPod nano, iTouch, MorphWiz, SketchWiz, SampleWiz, keytar, piano
Mike Mangini--drums, percussion
Mike Portnoy--burps, "five-year hiatuses," ass and balls
Jay Beckenstein-Saxaphones right?
Don't forget:
Mike Mangini on Patriot Cruisers
James Labrie on Vocal and Court Dancing
Jay Beckenstein on Spyro Gyra
Theresa Thomason on Whole Notes Over 64th Notes
I'm afraid I'm not enough of a DT nerd to remember what the Omnisphere is at the moment. :blush
I'm far to blackberry wine to understand this. I think I've had too much drunk.You're such a precious creature, like, you don't even know :laugh:
I'm afraid I'm not enough of a DT nerd to remember what the Omnisphere is at the moment. :blush
It's a..... thing. :blush
Hehehe
Oh, I will do when I have more things recorded from my projects, then there will be examples of various organ sounds from growly as balls to really mellow latin-jazz.
What do I mean by bad-arse organ sounds? Basically: Take hammond organ with full drawbars and switches, like wot a B3 does, put through a leslie with overdrive and possibly then through an amplifier emulator with more overdrive and things. Set up mod-wheel so you can change the speed of the rotor.
That.
I think that they should use as much analog equipment as they can. For tone, sure, but also for the "feel" of analog equipment. Know what I mean?Oh trust me, I will
I realize that at this point, what they "should" do is irrelevant. They've begun working, and all we can do now is anticipate the new album.
In other news - when will Jordan simply upload a pic without putting some stupid stock effect on it like a 12 yr old girl who just made an Instagram account ?In a few years when Instagram goes away. I've kind of gotten used to everyone using it so I don't mind.
In other news - when will Jordan simply upload a pic without putting some stupid stock effect on it like a 12 yr old girl who just made an Instagram account ?In a few years when Instagram goes away. I've kind of gotten used to everyone using it so I don't mind.
A closer look into Jordan's Creative Corner:
Notable toys: HARPEJJI, CONTINUUM
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-a-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/71515_10151876947337524_708009482_n.jpg)
Yeah, if he keeps honing his instagram skills his pictures will look like Riverside artworks in a couple of years :biggrin:Hey hey hey now! If you touch my beloved Travis Smith artwork, cities WILL burn :biggrin:
Add me in. I'll join you. I love Riverside's artwork.Yeah, if he keeps honing his instagram skills his pictures will look like Riverside artworks in a couple of years :biggrin:Hey hey hey now! If you touch my beloved Travis Smith artwork, cities WILL burn :biggrin:
You're in.Add me in. I'll join you. I love Riverside's artwork.Yeah, if he keeps honing his instagram skills his pictures will look like Riverside artworks in a couple of years :biggrin:Hey hey hey now! If you touch my beloved Travis Smith artwork, cities WILL burn :biggrin:
:hatYou're in.Add me in. I'll join you. I love Riverside's artwork.Yeah, if he keeps honing his instagram skills his pictures will look like Riverside artworks in a couple of years :biggrin:Hey hey hey now! If you touch my beloved Travis Smith artwork, cities WILL burn :biggrin:
I want to hear the harpejji on the album Dammit.
I want to hear the harpejji on the album Dammit.
Yes, but not just a half assed cameo. If there needs to be, then there needs to be an Harpejji-driven song. This I say.
Harpejjivarium :metalI want to hear the harpejji on the album Dammit.
Yes, but not just a half assed cameo. If there needs to be, then there needs to be an Harpejji-driven song. This I say.
I just saw this astract picture on facebook. I wouldn't mind DT entering a bit further in the abstract domain for the artwork:That looks damn good but I don't think It would fit in with the other DT artwork.
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-b-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/379523_319018394783814_1246553175_n.jpg)
Yeah but who would have said the SDOIT artwork would fit in?6 D's is my favorite cover.
Yeah but who would have said the SDOIT artwork would fit in?6 D's is my favorite cover.
I just saw this astract picture on facebook. I wouldn't mind DT entering a bit further in the abstract domain for the artwork:
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-b-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/379523_319018394783814_1246553175_n.jpg)
I'd like to see a change in artist for the album art too, but please nothing abstract. Papa needs a new bicycle.
That could probably be said for any art. Slap the DT logo on it and it makes perfect sense. What does DT art look like anyway.
Sure, I&W, Awake, and BCSL are close. But a clown on a tightrope?
That could probably be said for any art. Slap the DT logo on it and it makes perfect sense. What does DT art look like anyway.
Sure, I&W, Awake, and BCSL are close. But a clown on a tightrope?
I'd still say ADToE has a similar feel to those others you mentioned.
If DT stick with Huge Syme as their cover artist, they really can't be helped. That stunt with the unicyclist was like pissing into DT's open mouth and then demanding money for it....was it?
Not a fan of the title, but the picture is already a shit-ton better than all previous DT covers.
And the best part, it doesn't have the DT logo in it (when will that ever end?)
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BAIjCW6CYAEfQiS.jpg:large)
Not a fan of the title, but the picture is already a shit-ton better than all previous DT covers.
And the best part, it doesn't have the DT logo in it (when will that ever end?)
Perhaps.
But it shows how someone with no ability at all can make a creative artwork using stock footage no less.
The only difference between my one and Hugh Syme's one is he charged for it.
I'll start when they tell us the album title.Pink.
I'll start when they tell us the album title.Pink.
^Do want.Who wouldn't?
I would love to see DT do a good album cover.Agreed, even though it's not that important to me.
I would love to see DT do a good album cover. I actually thought FII's was fucking interesting.Agreed; the only thing wrong about that cover IMO is "Dream Theater" not being in the DT font.
I would love to see DT do a good album cover. I actually thought FII's was fucking interesting.Agreed; the only thing wrong about that cover IMO is "Dream Theater" not being in the DT font.
I would love to see DT do a good album cover. I actually thought FII's was fucking interesting.
I think the covers are by far the weakest link of any given DT album (the early covers are repulsive and cheesy, ACOS is like a Photoshop experiment gone wrong; the later ones, like Octa, SC or BCSL remind me of outdated video game graphics), with a few exceptions (Scenes is nice). Which is especially a shame considering that great, epic covers are pretty much synonymous with the progressive genre. Looking up a few lines at Onno's avatar, that Opeth cover is exactly what I would like to see. Something organic, something hand-drawn. Something that would make me want to look at the cover whenever I listen to the album.:lol That's one of the reasons that cover is my avatar; not only do I really like the album, but the cover is really beautiful.
My feelings exactly, everything about that album is a great throwback to my favorite genre: classic progressive rock. Hopefully, they'll explore this direction even further on the next album, even without Wiberg. Musically speaking, that's something I'd also like to see from DT, to a certain degree, especially in keyboard sounds (more and better Hammond sounds, Moog, maybe Mellotron), more prominent bass. ADTOE somewhat hinted at this direction.I think the covers are by far the weakest link of any given DT album (the early covers are repulsive and cheesy, ACOS is like a Photoshop experiment gone wrong; the later ones, like Octa, SC or BCSL remind me of outdated video game graphics), with a few exceptions (Scenes is nice). Which is especially a shame considering that great, epic covers are pretty much synonymous with the progressive genre. Looking up a few lines at Onno's avatar, that Opeth cover is exactly what I would like to see. Something organic, something hand-drawn. Something that would make me want to look at the cover whenever I listen to the album.:lol That's one of the reasons that cover is my avatar; not only do I really like the album, but the cover is really beautiful.
I would love to see DT do a good album cover. I actually thought FII's was fucking interesting.
It was ok, which is still a step above the last two covers. Except IT DIDN'T USE THE FONT AHHHHHHHHHH. Not cool.
Looks much better.I would love to see DT do a good album cover. I actually thought FII's was fucking interesting.
It was ok, which is still a step above the last two covers. Except IT DIDN'T USE THE FONT AHHHHHHHHHH. Not cool.
What are you talking about? Mine has the font.
(https://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k34/Zook85/FallingIntoInfinity_DTlogo_zps2a67d87b.jpg)
:neverusethis:
Travis Smith is an amazing artist. I think he does Amorphis's cover art too, and they probably have the best cover art in metal.I think the covers are by far the weakest link of any given DT album (the early covers are repulsive and cheesy, ACOS is like a Photoshop experiment gone wrong; the later ones, like Octa, SC or BCSL remind me of outdated video game graphics), with a few exceptions (Scenes is nice). Which is especially a shame considering that great, epic covers are pretty much synonymous with the progressive genre. Looking up a few lines at Onno's avatar, that Opeth cover is exactly what I would like to see. Something organic, something hand-drawn. Something that would make me want to look at the cover whenever I listen to the album.:lol That's one of the reasons that cover is my avatar; not only do I really like the album, but the cover is really beautiful.
(https://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k34/Zook85/FallingIntoInfinity_DTlogo_zps2a67d87b.jpg)
IMO, Scenes and Six Degrees have the only good album covers. The rest are really just photoshop experiments, as someone said.No love for I&W?
Yuck! I'd like to get those images out of my head. Agreed with the first quoted post, although, while Six Degrees is decent indeed, it doesn't really fit DT. Reminds me of a punk album cover.IMO, Scenes and Six Degrees have the only good album covers. The rest are really just photoshop experiments, as someone said.No love for I&W?
Yuck! I'd like to get those images out of my head.IMO, Scenes and Six Degrees have the only good album covers. The rest are really just photoshop experiments, as someone said.No love for I&W?
The I&W album? Yes of course. The album art? No thanks.
What are you talking about? Mine has the font.
(https://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k34/Zook85/FallingIntoInfinity_DTlogo_zps2a67d87b.jpg)
:neverusethis:
Travis Smith is an amazing artist. I think he does Amorphis's cover art too, and they probably have the best cover art in metal.Agreed - to quote myself earlier in this thread:
https://www.timba1987.narod.ru/foreign-artists/amorphis-discography/silent-waters.files/image006.jpg
Travis Smith has made lots of great album covers for many great bands - Katatonia, Amorphis, Opeth, Anathema... As a Finn I especially like his works for Amorphis, he managed to capture the feel of Finnish mythology really well in those cover arts (unlike the guy who came up with the cover for Thousand Lakes! :lol).
What are you talking about? Mine has the font.
image of what could have been
:neverusethis:
Is that picture of the chocolate cake their new "inspiration corner"? :justjen
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-a-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/379301_10151196295742181_1702476255_n.jpg)
Could it be from the studio that James is recording his album at?
Makes sense to me! :lolCould it be from the studio that James is recording his album at?
No, that's definitely JP's rig. And since someone, the photographer I presume, stuck the DT symbol in the bottom right corner, I assume that it's definitely DT too :D
I was asked by a member who is currently too lazy to think and write in English to make you aware that the author of that photo is none other than Richard Chyki, who we all know was the one who produced the vocals for ADTOE. (I asked him how did he find out and will post his answer if he doesn't himself)
What does this mean? Just a random early visit to the studio or is there something more?
Maybe i'm late or something but JR tweeted this picture:
https://ow.ly/i/1nPpS
Yeah that was taken at a listening party for the new SW album.
I will be concerned though if the next album has a song called "A Train Run By Depressed Teenagers" though.
Any techie would like to explain to me please how that gear works? I mean, which amps are those? Effects? From the RR era records, I love how JPs guitar sounds in Black Clouds.
Any techie would like to explain to me please how that gear works? I mean, which amps are those? Effects? From the RR era records, I love how JPs guitar sounds in Black Clouds.
Left Side Top To Bottom:
Mesa Boogie Mark IIC+
Mesa Boogie Mark IIC+
Mesa Boogie Mark IV
Mesa Boogie Mark V
Right Side Top To Bottom:
Mesa Boogie Mark IIC+
2x Drawers of pedals (For effects - pics earlier in the thread)
Dunlop CryBaby Rack Wah
2x Mesa Boogie TriAxis Preamps
Fractal Audio AxeFX II (For effects)
Mesa Boogie Stereo 2:90 Poweramp
Power Conditioner (Probably Furman)
JP usually takes a bunch of different amps into the studio to experiment with and then decides what will make the album. A similar setup was in studio for ADTOE but he decided he liked the Mark V on everything so that's the only amp on that album.
For BCASL the rhythm sounds were from a Mark IV and the solos were all the IIC+. The Mark V was released towards the end of tracking so that features on some parts of TCOT including the solo after the last vocal. I can't remember where the cleans came from but I assume it was from a Mesa Boogie Lonestar as it was on SC. SC had similar gear to BCASL though I think the album is almost exclusively Mark IV save the cleans from the Lonestar.
You were like FUCK YEAH but you could only compliment the lack of cow bells ? :huh:
He probably meant "complaint" - English can be tricky for us Finns sometimes!
This should be the official one, and it's not because I've started it myself :D
Any techie would like to explain to me please how that gear works? I mean, which amps are those? Effects? From the RR era records, I love how JPs guitar sounds in Black Clouds.
Left Side Top To Bottom:
Mesa Boogie Mark IIC+
Mesa Boogie Mark IIC+
Right Side Top To Bottom:
Mesa Boogie Mark IIC+
Any techie would like to explain to me please how that gear works? I mean, which amps are those? Effects? From the RR era records, I love how JPs guitar sounds in Black Clouds.
Left Side Top To Bottom:
Mesa Boogie Mark IIC+
Mesa Boogie Mark IIC+
Right Side Top To Bottom:
Mesa Boogie Mark IIC+
Can't he give one of those IIC+'s to me? I'd love to have one, even though I own a Mark III.
Any techie would like to explain to me please how that gear works? I mean, which amps are those? Effects? From the RR era records, I love how JPs guitar sounds in Black Clouds.
Left Side Top To Bottom:
Mesa Boogie Mark IIC+
Mesa Boogie Mark IIC+
Right Side Top To Bottom:
Mesa Boogie Mark IIC+
Can't he give one of those IIC+'s to me? I'd love to have one, even though I own a Mark III.
I'd love a Mark Series fullstop. Got an F50 myself but a IIC+/IV/V would slay.
Any techie would like to explain to me please how that gear works? I mean, which amps are those? Effects? From the RR era records, I love how JPs guitar sounds in Black Clouds.
Left Side Top To Bottom:
Mesa Boogie Mark IIC+
Mesa Boogie Mark IIC+
Right Side Top To Bottom:
Mesa Boogie Mark IIC+
Can't he give one of those IIC+'s to me? I'd love to have one, even though I own a Mark III.
I'd love a Mark Series fullstop. Got an F50 myself but a IIC+/IV/V would slay.
Amazing chemistry is great, the writing process and the whole vibe is great, and his role is to let his personality shine as a drummer, creatively and to have his input and his musical personality really come through. And I gotta tell you, it’s happening. When people hear the drumming on this album, they’re gonna be pretty freaked out. On the last album, he did a great job, but he wasn’t there for the writing process and he was interpreting drum parts that I had programmed. Even though he used his creativity, of course, to change them up and do his thing, I feel like now he’s just Mike Mangini unleashed. It’s all him. It’s all his creativity, all his decisions and ideas and man, the guy’s an animal.Yesyesyes.
JP seems to be too obsessed about maintaining the core sound of the band... and actually that is what could be dangerous for the band. To me, another ADTOE with upgraded drumming would be a major disappointment.I mostly agree with this; trying out new things is great most of the time. However, I imagine that John understands this as well. I don't think they'll start making albums that all sound the same now; after all, the band consists of 5 people who each have their own ideas. I can't imagine that MP was the sole cause of the stylistic changes between all albums, from WDADU till BC&SL.
JP seems to be too obsessed about maintaining the core sound of the band... and actually that is what could be dangerous for the band. To me, another ADTOE with upgraded drumming would be a major disappointment.
Maintaining the core sound of a band doesn't mean being static. You can tell that IAW, Awake, SFAM and SDOIT, which are widely acclaimed as the best DT albums, all base themself on a core sound which is the DT fingerprint, while being very different one another.The thing is that they started using the term "core sound" to refer to the sound DT had before MP started tipping the balance towards the metal side and that they recovered on ADTOE. I should have specified that, but you are right about "core sound" on that depth level, if you know what I mean. You have a conception of the term that is more deep and that contains the main elements of the bands, such as virtuoso playing and everything else.
I just wish we could see the real live compositional dynamics within the band. A sort of candid camera documentary of the shaping of one song would probably been the coolest and most interesting thing for me (besides the actual song) :tupSomething like the ToT docu-thing :corn
I really want a making of the album DVD for once that doesn't have MP leering into the camera, interrupting people, and making awful
jokes or juvenile sounds every 5 seconds.
I wish we'd for once have a thread where you wouldn't bring MP up in derogatory and slandering fashion, and not just that, but when the context doesn't require bringing him up since we're talking about the future and not the past ;)
I wish we'd for once have a thread where you wouldn't bring MP up in derogatory and slandering fashion, and not just that, but when the context doesn't require bringing him up since we're talking about the future and not the past ;)
So... this is gonna be their... 12th album, right? And Mike Mangini is gonna be involved with... the writing, right?You're John Petrucci, you of all people should know :lol
And Jay Beckenstein is from... Spyro Gyra, right?
So... this is gonna be their... 12th album, right? And Mike Mangini is gonna be involved with... the writing, right?You're John Petrucci, you of all people should know :lol
And Jay Beckenstein is from... Spyro Gyra, right?
(thread cross-polination ftw)
I think you mean cross-pollution. XD:lol
I think you mean cross-pollution. XD:lol
Two things:
1) I dreamed of listening to the album (already out) and liking it quite a bit. I NEED HELP WITH MY SUBCONSCIOUSNESS. It had two twenty minute-songs, two fifteen minute songs and one five minute song. And they were walking outside my building shooting a music video or something. It was fabulous.
2) How cool would it be if they went with something less straightforward and stereotypical for the album title? Don't get me wrong, I believe them ADTOE is about what they said it was about, but naming an album like that after MP's departure and then explaining it's not about MP to a fanbase which is not at all prone to overanalyzing (and casual fans which were not likely to read the interviews at all) could have been easily avoided with another title.
All I'm saying is, if they wanna name the album Genie In A Bottle... :lol
This is amazing! I would love DT to visit my dreams more often, It happens quite rarely nowadays :\I once had a dream when Rudess was shooting a video outside. I said hi and I don't remember the rest. DAMNIT.
I don't get all the hype. It's just a few simple operations :D
Is 192 BPM very high?
Gah! They blurred it out on purpose!
And yes, it's Jordan. When I see a bald human being that close to a couple of keyboards in the DT studio there's only one possible explaination :D
Gah! They blurred it out on purpose!
And yes, it's Jordan. When I see a bald human being that close to a couple of keyboards in the DT studio there's only one possible explaination :D
BUT WHY DID THEY BLUR HIM?!
Gah! They blurred it out on purpose!
And yes, it's Jordan. When I see a bald human being that close to a couple of keyboards in the DT studio there's only one possible explaination :D
BUT WHY DID THEY BLUR HIM?!
Because whoever posts the pics has a good sense of humour :lol
Gah! They blurred it out on purpose!
And yes, it's Jordan. When I see a bald human being that close to a couple of keyboards in the DT studio there's only one possible explaination :D
BUT WHY DID THEY BLUR HIM?!
I don't get all the hype. It's just a few simple operations :D
Is 192 BPM very high?
Depends on what you're playing! I personally can play double bass kvadruplets at 150 for 10 seconds, then my feet start falling off.... so this would be amazing. But who knows what rhythm he is playing......
Yeah 192 bpm doesn't really tell us anything.
Great minds think alike.Eh, but he didn't post the Winter Rose pic as well :lol
You'll be such a great couple. :heart I'm sending my blessing to you guys!
Great minds think alike.
You'll be such a great couple. :heart I'm sending my blessing to you guys!
Eh, but he didn't post the Winter Rose pic as well :lol
What if they're writing and recording simultaneously? :smiley:They might, but nevertheless, it's really cool to see that James is really involved in the writing/recording of this album, like he was with ADTOE. I don't believe he was that involved during the few albums before ADTOE, though I may be wrong.