2009/10 WORLD TOUR DISCUSSION THREAD

[PlaysLikeMyung]

I would love to hear Hollow Years w/ improv on ProgNation.  I don't care if they already did it on the ToT tour.

absolutely. I have a feeling they're going to change their sets for the North American dates though...

[brakkum]

I would love to hear Hollow Years w/ improv on ProgNation.  I don't care if they already did it on the ToT tour.

5 years ago. very likely they will use it i would say.

[cyberdrummer]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6HNSqZP-9JQ

Solitary Shell

[skydivingninja]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6HNSqZP-9JQ

Solitary Shell

Holy crap that was an awesome extended jam!  Also, Rudess on Bebot.

[perfey]

^^ Yeah, great version, I love how they laughed when they saw it on the big screen. BTW, is there more videos of the gig expect for A Rite of Passage and the other videos that been posted?

[BlobVanDam]

That is how Bebot should sound. Over a softer song, Bebot can sound good. I got worried when I heard he was playing Bebot in Solitary Shell, but that fitted perfectly.

[perfey]

Found one: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cQHtj7K3uoA

[jag66]

Is it a european trait for people to sing along to the instrumental melodies (like there in solitary shell). Don't seem to get it in england, but I vaguelly recall it having been to foreign festivals. Pretty annoying (esp when out of tune) imo.

[skydivingninja]

Is it a european trait for people to sing along to the instrumental melodies (like there in solitary shell). Don't seem to get it in england, but I vaguelly recall it having been to foreign festivals. Pretty annoying (esp when out of tune) imo.

South American crowds do this.  Kinda puts U.S. ones to shame.

[sonatafanica]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6HNSqZP-9JQ

Solitary Shell

The crowds lack of correct pitch/harmony/note identifying HURTS MAH EARS

[berrege]

Don't like it when they remake songs (like Solitary Shell in this video). Original is always the best.

[skydivingninja]

Don't like it when they remake songs (like Solitary Shell in this video). Original is always the best.

But that's part of what makes live shows so special.  Yes they dragged a 5/6 minute song into 9 minutes, but all the added stuff was a great inclusion for the song in a live setting.  If a band just reproduced songs exactly like they were on the album, it kinda ruins the point of being live.  Excitement, crowd participation, and slightly tweaked arrangements/tempos make live concerts and live albums (the middle one DT really needs to work on when mixing live albums).  Putting this version of SS on a DVD would be fantastic.

[berrege]

Don't like it when they remake songs (like Solitary Shell in this video). Original is always the best.

But that's part of what makes live shows so special.  Yes they dragged a 5/6 minute song into 9 minutes, but all the added stuff was a great inclusion for the song in a live setting.  If a band just reproduced songs exactly like they were on the album, it kinda ruins the point of being live.  Excitement, crowd participation, and slightly tweaked arrangements/tempos make live concerts and live albums (the middle one DT really needs to work on when mixing live albums).  Putting this version of SS on a DVD would be fantastic.

I just don't like it when they play something that I never heard before, I want to hear something recognisable so I can sing together with James and "play" what John Petrucci plays in my head.

[chrisbDTM]

i was like oh noo not the bebot, but that was cool


are there any good photos from sweden?

[SinisterMinisterX]

Is it a european trait for people to sing along to the instrumental melodies (like there in solitary shell). Don't seem to get it in england, but I vaguelly recall it having been to foreign festivals. Pretty annoying (esp when out of tune) imo.

South American crowds do this.  Kinda puts U.S. ones to shame.

I've seen US crowds do it at Maiden shows during "Fear Of The Dark", but I think they're copying from the live version of FOTD which has been on a couple of albums.

As for the DT setlist - very cool. I'm in the minority who loves BTL so that made me happy, but Erotomania/Voices is even better. I hope they keep that for NA PN09.

[Nick]

Is it a european trait for people to sing along to the instrumental melodies (like there in solitary shell). Don't seem to get it in england, but I vaguelly recall it having been to foreign festivals. Pretty annoying (esp when out of tune) imo.

South American crowds do this.  Kinda puts U.S. ones to shame.

I've seen US crowds do it at Maiden shows during "Fear Of The Dark", but I think they're copying from the live version of FOTD which has been on a couple of albums.

As for the DT setlist - very cool. I'm in the minority who loves BTL so that made me happy, but Erotomania/Voices is even better. I hope they keep that for NA PN09.

I doubt it, just because it was pretty common on the original ProgNation.

[BFRedrocks]

i was like oh noo not the bebot, but that was cool

I downloaded Bebot for my IPhone this weekend and two things immediately came to mind.

1.  This program is really COOL and fun to play around with.

2.  JR IS the wizard to make the sounds (music) he does with this thing.  His video on YouTube showing the different things the Bebot can do is simply amazing!

Glad to hear he is playing around with it on the PN09 tour.

[ariich]

Kind of surprised they played a lot of songs  that were played on the last leg of last year's tour.  I can only assume its going to be changed up big time when the album is released and they come back to the states.

Overall, I'd say that its still a pretty awesome setlist.  Just not one I'd want to see since they played a lot of those songs last year in NYC.

You have to remember that most of these songs weren't played at all in Europe on the last tour. I'm sure the setlist will change for the US.

This exactly!

[ariich]

Is it a european trait for people to sing along to the instrumental melodies (like there in solitary shell). Don't seem to get it in england, but I vaguelly recall it having been to foreign festivals. Pretty annoying (esp when out of tune) imo.

Wat?! I hear it all the time here in the UK.

[Facsimile]

Don't like it when they remake songs (like Solitary Shell in this video). Original is always the best.

But that's part of what makes live shows so special.  Yes they dragged a 5/6 minute song into 9 minutes, but all the added stuff was a great inclusion for the song in a live setting.  If a band just reproduced songs exactly like they were on the album, it kinda ruins the point of being live.  Excitement, crowd participation, and slightly tweaked arrangements/tempos make live concerts and live albums (the middle one DT really needs to work on when mixing live albums).  Putting this version of SS on a DVD would be fantastic.

I just don't like it when they play something that I never heard before, I want to hear something recognisable so I can sing together with James and "play" what John Petrucci plays in my head.

God I hope that's a joke.

[cyberdrummer]

2009-10-17 - Forest National - Brussels, BEL

[bodiesinflight]

Is it a european trait for people to sing along to the instrumental melodies (like there in solitary shell). Don't seem to get it in england, but I vaguelly recall it having been to foreign festivals. Pretty annoying (esp when out of tune) imo.

Wat?! I hear it all the time here in the UK.

Yeah, it's very common in the UK, it's not always irritating, depends what the song is

[Spacebar.]

Wasn't metropolis also extended at the swedish rock fest??

[berrege]

2009-10-17 - Forest National - Brussels, BEL

YEEEES

[Nihil-Morari]

WOW!

Pete Trewavas and Mike Portnoy joined Neal Morse on stage at the Sweden Rock Festival! It's official:




BTW the source of this picture is Colin Leijenaar, Neal present drummer, the bald guy behind Neal.

[hefdaddy42]

Nice!

[DarkLord_Lalinc]

Purple beard!! Why not?! 

[GuineaPig]

I think MP's beard is traversing the electromagnetic spectrum.  Pretty soon it will move into X-rays and disappear.

[DarkLord_Lalinc]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6HNSqZP-9JQ

Solitary Shell

The crowds lack of correct pitch/harmony/note identifying HURTS MAH EARS

Crowds digging and enjoying the concert is all fine with me. 

[sonatafanica]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6HNSqZP-9JQ

Solitary Shell

The crowds lack of correct pitch/harmony/note identifying HURTS MAH EARS

Crowds digging and enjoying the concert is all fine with me. 

But they don't understand the complexities of correct vocal technique! How could they possibly enjoy anything?!

[bosk1]

BTW the source of this picture is Colin Leijenaar, Neal present drummer, the bald guy behind Neal.

Wait...    Given where he is sitting, how is that physically possible?

[DarkLord_Lalinc]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6HNSqZP-9JQ

Solitary Shell

The crowds lack of correct pitch/harmony/note identifying HURTS MAH EARS

Crowds digging and enjoying the concert is all fine with me. 

But they don't understand the complexities of correct vocal technique! How could they possibly enjoy anything?!

wat

[hefdaddy42]

BTW the source of this picture is Colin Leijenaar, Neal present drummer, the bald guy behind Neal.

Wait...    Given where he is sitting, how is that physically possible?

Your Jedi mind tricks won't work on me.

[bosk1]

What?

[chrisbDTM]

good one from sweden
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OfrhS9lcbV8