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New DT Live Album/DVD?

Started by darkshade, December 22, 2011, 05:31:52 PM

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cramx3

Its definitely a must condidering they have a new drummer, a new awesome album, and what is turning into a large amount of older material not on an official dvd yet that has been played since MM has been in the band.

Millais

A live album would be awesome. JLB is sounding absolutely incredible every night - a DVD of each song from a different venue around the world would be amazing! I can dream...

fadetoblackdude7

So earlier I was thinking about how badly I want a live dvd/blu-ray of this tour, so I came up with a setlist I'd like to see on it. It would be 'an evening with' show and strictly a one-off only for the filming. It would look like this:

Bridges In The Sky
These Walls
6:00
Build Me Up, Break Me Down
Endless Sacrifice
Drum Solo
The Ytse Jam
The Silent Man
Beneath The Surface
~Intermission~
Outcry
The Great Debate
On The Backs Of Angels
Wait For Sleep
Far From Heaven
Peruvian Skies
Through My Words
Fatal Tragedy
The Count Of Tuscany
~Encore~
Pull Me Under
Breaking All Illusions

Lemme know what you guys think!

EDIT: Forgot about the setlist on the first page, but thought I'd throw mine in anyway.

Mladen

That would be the best thing ever. Just switch Ytse Jam with A Fortune in lies, and I couldn't be happier.  :metal

abydos

I would be surprised if they record one for this tour. Would make more sense (to me at least) if they did so after the next album which would also feature MM entirely, not playing to guidelines set by JP. It will have more new material for them to show. Didn't JP said in an interview recently that they are thinking about doing another one in 2013 anyway?

Dream Team

Quote from: abydos on February 02, 2012, 05:56:10 AM
I would be surprised if they record one for this tour. Would make more sense (to me at least) if they did so after the next album which would also feature MM entirely, not playing to guidelines set by JP. It will have more new material for them to show. Didn't JP said in an interview recently that they are thinking about doing another one in 2013 anyway?

Disagree completely. As of this summer it will have been 6 YEARS since "Score" came out. IMO we're way overdue for another DVD of that high quality. (not counting CIM obviously)

smegolas

Quote from: fadetoblackdude7 on February 02, 2012, 02:18:35 AM
So earlier I was thinking about how badly I want a live dvd/blu-ray of this tour, so I came up with a setlist I'd like to see on it. It would be 'an evening with' show and strictly a one-off only for the filming. It would look like this:

Bridges In The Sky
These Walls
6:00
Build Me Up, Break Me Down
Endless Sacrifice
Drum Solo
The Ytse Jam
The Silent Man
Beneath The Surface
~Intermission~
Outcry
The Great Debate
On The Backs Of Angels
Wait For Sleep
Far From Heaven
Peruvian Skies
Through My Words
Fatal Tragedy
The Count Of Tuscany
~Encore~
Pull Me Under
Breaking All Illusions

Lemme know what you guys think!

EDIT: Forgot about the setlist on the first page, but thought I'd throw mine in anyway.


Do we really need PMU AGAIN???  Does any long term fan of the band really need to hear that song ever again?  Much rather see stuff that we havent had on a DVD before.  How bout an extended tickle section!!

fadetoblackdude7

Quote from: smegolas on February 07, 2012, 03:02:52 PM
Quote from: fadetoblackdude7 on February 02, 2012, 02:18:35 AM
So earlier I was thinking about how badly I want a live dvd/blu-ray of this tour, so I came up with a setlist I'd like to see on it. It would be 'an evening with' show and strictly a one-off only for the filming. It would look like this:

Bridges In The Sky
These Walls
6:00
Build Me Up, Break Me Down
Endless Sacrifice
Drum Solo
The Ytse Jam
The Silent Man
Beneath The Surface
~Intermission~
Outcry
The Great Debate
On The Backs Of Angels
Wait For Sleep
Far From Heaven
Peruvian Skies
Through My Words
Fatal Tragedy
The Count Of Tuscany
~Encore~
Pull Me Under
Breaking All Illusions

Lemme know what you guys think!

EDIT: Forgot about the setlist on the first page, but thought I'd throw mine in anyway.


Do we really need PMU AGAIN???  Does any long term fan of the band really need to hear that song ever again?  Much rather see stuff that we havent had on a DVD before.  How bout an extended tickle section!!

That entire setlist is stuff that's never been on a dvd before, except for a couple tunes.

snapple

Swap Ytse Jam with AFIL and PMU with LTL and we have a winner. Or fuck it, ditch LTL/PMU and give us Lifting Shadows.

jcmistat

That list is basically every song played this tour. I like it. They still need to play Lost Not Forgotten and This is the Life!

Millais

is that a camera I see set up in front of this guy filming... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qdgJWtlE09o

Edit: IGNORE ME. that's just for the live feeds, i'm such an idiot (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=StdyZiZiCa0)

theGonz

I want it to be a one night show. i would love it if the setlist included ANTR, Count of tuscany, all of ADTOE, and what ever else they felt like playing :-D

Kotowboy

The trouble with filming one gig is everything has to go perfectly - they might play 10 songs perfectly and 5 a bit poor or there might be a tech problem...

I'd rather they filmed every gig of the tour and picked the best performances of each song.


serrano

I would prefer a one night show with something special to it, like the orchestra in score or Theresa and the choir in LSFNY. I would hope for a one shot Evening With just for the filming with enough material to choose from.

Cyclopssss

Quote from: Kotowboy on February 21, 2012, 11:57:16 PM
The trouble with filming one gig is everything has to go perfectly - they might play 10 songs perfectly and 5 a bit poor or there might be a tech problem...

I'd rather they filmed every gig of the tour and picked the best performances of each song.

Yeah, this, but tastefully done, not too much shows, and without the 'filmed at ....venue, date etc' info. I think that would enhance the watching experience.


Kotowboy

Yeah - we don't need to know which venue each song was filmed at - just make it flow seamlessly as if it was one concert - without pretending it is.

There's a shot on Live Sh*t by Metallica where Kirk magically changes guitar. Not only in the same song but in the same shot :P

fadetoblackdude7

Quote from: Kotowboy on February 21, 2012, 11:57:16 PM
The trouble with filming one gig is everything has to go perfectly - they might play 10 songs perfectly and 5 a bit poor or there might be a tech problem...

I'd rather they filmed every gig of the tour and picked the best performances of each song.

True, but they don't have to release it if something goes wrong. Or, they could fix it after it's filmed. Like when they did Score and JP's rig broke down during UAGM.....they dubbed it in the studio.

duncan3dc

Quote from: Kotowboy on February 21, 2012, 11:57:16 PM
The trouble with filming one gig is everything has to go perfectly - they might play 10 songs perfectly and 5 a bit poor or there might be a tech problem...

I'd rather they filmed every gig of the tour and picked the best performances of each song.

Isn't it a lot more expensive to film every gig? I presume that was why the Chaos DVD was the quality it was.
I'd rather have a high quality warts and all show, then lower quality mix and match of the 'best' performances (a subjective criteria anyway)

Architeuthis

I have my doubts about a dvd of this tour. If they were gonna film a show they would let the fanbase know in advance so a bigger crowd would show up like they did prior to Score.

Jamariquay

Comprising a live DVD of multiple shows across multiple dates smacks suspiciously of Chaos In Motion, which sucked all sorts of ass. Score, which was one show on one date, fucking ruled. I'd rather they take their DVD direction this time around from.... one of these examples more so than the other. I'll let you determine which is which.

At the same time though, if they want to include bonus footage from multiple shows alongside the main set, a la Honor Thy Father, The Great Debate and Another Day on Score, that'd be fine by me.

johncal

Based on Score, and live Scenes it seems pretty obvious to me that they can tighten it up as much as they need to when recording a one shot deal. It's definitely chaper than doing it everywhere.

However, they record everything coming out of the board since it's there anyways and they always haver a camera crew on hand to do the live video on the screen which they can also record. MM said they listen to their performances all the time after the show to see what they can do better. So recording from different gigs would not be an issue at all, and they are going to remix everything in the studio anyways.

Either way, they'll do a super job and I'm sure (well most of us anyways) will be veery pleased.

PetFish

Quote from: Kotowboy on February 21, 2012, 11:57:16 PM

I'd rather they filmed every gig of the tour and picked the best performances of each song.

1)  It would cost $Zillion to film it "best" quality so as to avoid upsetting the CiM whiners.

2)  The forums would be flooded with nitpicky anal-retentives citing every single moment they used footage from a different gig when JP's left foot was up and then in the next shot it was his right foot and James was drinking water and in the next he wasn't and JR was bald here but not there.

3)  Anything DT have released from 'single' shows has been great so I don't see the need to freak out and think the worst that they need multiple shows cuz they screw up so much playing live they need the backup footage.  We all know the band are perfectionists and masters at their craft and will just as soon have monkeys fly out their butts than make a mistake... having said that, I find it endearing and cool when the *do* mess up a little cuz it shows they aren't flawless after all.

Regardless, I'm hoping the next release has a band commentary track.

KevShmev

Quote from: Jamariquay on February 22, 2012, 03:58:59 PM
Comprising a live DVD of multiple shows across multiple dates smacks suspiciously of Chaos In Motion, which sucked all sorts of ass. 

It also smacks of 5 Years in a Livetime, which is awesome.

Jamariquay

Quote from: KevShmev on February 22, 2012, 09:06:52 PM
Quote from: Jamariquay on February 22, 2012, 03:58:59 PM
Comprising a live DVD of multiple shows across multiple dates smacks suspiciously of Chaos In Motion, which sucked all sorts of ass. 

It also smacks of 5 Years in a Livetime, which is awesome.

I don't really care for that one either. Once In A Livetime is OK.

?

I hope they'll film one show for the main part of the DVD and use material from other shows (songs that weren't played in the main show) as bonus material.

hefdaddy42

Quote from: ? on February 22, 2012, 11:11:46 PM
I hope they'll film one show for the main part of the DVD and use material from other shows (songs that weren't played in the main show) as bonus material.
Quote from: BlobVanDam on December 11, 2014, 08:19:46 PMHef is right on all things. Except for when I disagree with him. In which case he's probably still right.

wasteland

Quote from: hefdaddy42 on February 23, 2012, 08:53:02 AM
Quote from: ? on February 22, 2012, 11:11:46 PM
I hope they'll film one show for the main part of the DVD and use material from other shows (songs that weren't played in the main show) as bonus material.

This and The Count Of Tuscany needs to be on that DVD.

Ben_Jamin

I wouldn't mind a DVD the style of 5years/CiM now and then an evening with style DVD the next album.

ResultsMayVary

Quote from: Architeuthis on February 22, 2012, 03:46:07 PM
I have my doubts about a dvd of this tour. If they were gonna film a show they would let the fanbase know in advance so a bigger crowd would show up like they did prior to Score.
My gut feeling is that they will be filming in Jakarta, Indonesia when they play there in April and they wouldn't need to announce a filming to get a larger crowd, since the crowd is already going to be fucking massive to begin with.

wasteland

Quote from: ResultsMayVary on February 23, 2012, 09:55:10 AM
Quote from: Architeuthis on February 22, 2012, 03:46:07 PM
I have my doubts about a dvd of this tour. If they were gonna film a show they would let the fanbase know in advance so a bigger crowd would show up like they did prior to Score.
My gut feeling is that they will be filming in Jakarta, Indonesia when they play there in April and they wouldn't need to announce a filming to get a larger crowd, since the crowd is already going to be fucking massive to begin with.

That's very likely.

As for myself, I think that times are good for a DVD shot in Paris or in Italy, as they were accounted by the band to be probably the best shows of the tour so far (JR even said that the Paris gig was one of the highlights of his whole career). Moreover, a Europe-recorded live album is missing since OIALT (and it was Paris back then).

cramx3

The Jakarta gig idea sounds like a good possibility, you also have to add in that bands usually film concerts towards the end of a tour so they had many shows to perfect what they will film. I believe Score was the last show of that tour.

pierre59172

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4QRz7-Cohio

Check out this interview of JLB.
He's actually discussing about the forthcoming DT DVD !!!!!!

kirksnosehair

I'd really prefer that they do a composite DVD featuring all of the best performances of the tour.  I don't really care if it jumps all over the place in terms of location.  Why not make the DVD the best it can possibly be?


pierre59172

Coz,

First, it would cost a lot. they would have set up cameras at each venues. So it means that you can't get the best quality at each concerts obviously.Then, the last DVD Chaos In Motion was already about this, a compilation of differents concerts. Personnaly, I don't like really like this idea, the camera is not on the stage.

Anyway, they perform good lives because they repeat the setlist every night and JLB keeps his strong voice.


ZirconBlue

A compromise would be like what was done for Live After Death or Operation:LiveCrime -- film a couple nights, use the best night as a basis, but sub in a song here or there from the other night(s), where the performance was better.